TsuMirren

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Curious whether this new feature would allow to setup "free locations" like how WCW hosted Bash at the Beach on "the beach" and Hog/Road Wild at Sturgis.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Surely at the moment it's...wait for it...just in the name. I have the French venue where the ring is on a river.</p>

You get ownership of mods and saves elsewhere so why not in a wrestling sim? People get called out on FM boards, WWE2K boards and countless others for not giving credit and claiming work as there's. To me this is a bit like wrestlers lying about experience or people uploading someone else's torrent. It's sad, it's pathetic, it's immature, it's entitled and shouldn't be defended. That is true here and everywhere else. Hell, good FM mod developers or WWE2K CAW makers even get praised. Imagine that eh, praised as opposed to hounded and mocked! Anyway, good to see event sizes basically returning as constantly running events with full setup was just annoying. Has to mean new fields though, so that's at least one already. I eagerly await every other development.

<p>On the save to mod feature.</p><p> </p><p> Why haven't people just been releasing save games?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As a general note, please could people stop posting their suggestions in this thread - we have an entire subforum dedicated to them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> "Please use this thread for all discussion of TEW2020" - Maybe go and edit your own opening post then Adam.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="D16NJD16" data-cite="D16NJD16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm impressed. I'm presuming in that case the big overhaul tear down will be more visual and how the game is presented, and not in terms of how the game simulates and the general database. Which is good for me because the gameplay I dont feel needs a total tearing down, just some tweaking. Visually, I do think the interface needs to be torn down. It's not aesthetic or intuitive, even for someone who has played for so many years.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There were plenty of wee database tweaks in 16. If he's promising new features then there's bound go be in 2020. Event Live From and Event Held At would be two crackers, as would the return of Event Type for PPV's.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This isn’t true. The penalty isn’t that big at all</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Plus they do make or break the show in their own way. Just compare say Kent Walton on World of Sport to Nick Patrick on Deep South Wrestling.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Larrikin" data-cite="Larrikin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I play the 1987 mod since I love pro wrestling from Mania 1 to about the early 2000's. My main goal is to learn it back to front and teach it too my 11 year old autistic son. He is obsessed with pro wrestling and I think this is a great game for him to hyper-focus on that may have more positive benefits than WWE2k (add year). </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know this is going off topic, but that is the most beautiful portion of a post I've ever read on here. It makes the time spent on the mod worth it, I'm sure my colleagues would agree. If you ever want to ask anything on the UK or European scene then feel free to PM me.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It will have the usual converter included so that TEW2016 databases can be turned into TEW2020 compatible versions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hi Adam, </p><p> </p><p> With the above in mind. Will your journal include periodic updates on the detail that will need changed after a 2016 Mod has been converted to 2020? Additional fields and any that have been split out for example or even new options within a field's range of options.</p>

<p>More wraaaaaaaasslin' please sir. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541898" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=541898</a></p>

<p>Not written out the full thing for this stable of three, but...</p><p> </p><p> Las Maracas - Three large, plump, Mexicans who finish their opponent by surrounding him and shaking furiously. Works in the corner one on one just as well as in the middle of the ring with three of them. They may even currently be working outside of Mexico.</p>

<p>I think claiming Grado should be less athletic than Bahh is unfair, probably both around the same level if you take everything in to consideration. He's definitely flabby, but that's part of the gimmick. Although, he was a chunky wee monkey back when he started training.</p><p> </p><p> I think with Impact, it's important to remember that they're all mostly "X at Y, for that level" as a lot would sink in RoH nevermind WWE.</p>

If you've not watched it yet, save yourselves and watch WXW or New Zealand's SPW instead. Easily the worst major WWE pay per view ever.

WCW World Heavyweight Championship Booker T © vs Sting vs Scott Steiner US Championship Booker T © vs Sting WCW World Tag Team Championships Natural Born Thrillers © vs Team Canada WCW Cruiserweight Championship Shane Helms © vs Chavo Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio vs Billy Kidman Loser Leaves WCW Kanyon vs Ernest Miller or M.I Smooth (Worth 2 points, guess the correct person, guess the winner) - Smooth is oooooooooooooutta here! Bam Bam Bigelow vs Shawn Stasiak Ric Flair vs Dusty Rhodes - Flair with a Rhodes finish win

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41210" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> There was a time when I would have said not to do cheap bumps but that has also become normal now. What I mean by cheap bumps is when a writer will quote on just one or two comments or will issue a 24 hour warning in their prediction contest. This is often done just so that their diary remains on the first page. Oddly enough I could sort of understand doing that a few years ago when there were a lot more diaries but now if you do not post in a day your diary may still be on the front page.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah, but you see, that's all fine so long as it adds to the story/experience. Quoting on any comment is merely engagement, a 24 hour warning is fine as quite frankly who gets anyone to predict on a diary? Even the name diary, it's more a blog or an article or even an episodal log of what's happened in the game world. I do think the chaff has been wittled out, for want of a better term, leaving a good array of potential reads. </p><p> </p><p> As for quick hits, inexcusable if you're setting up a full WCW or WWF for example. But, know what, is there really an issue with a diary on "My summer at my grandparents" or "Found this box of videos, here's a look at them" or even "What if X hadn't been...". Something with a bit of imagination or even a glimpse at something fun. For any Verse, there's so little back story to most characters that you can possibly see how writers would see their interest drop off. To me, even now that I've been helping Kitarzu with his Verse, I still have that "who gives a..." at the thought of any fantasy what if X did Y instead of Z for Verse writing. But, that's just an example of why any diary writer won't please everyone and why they'll each either develop a style or fade away.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LlamaSquad" data-cite="LlamaSquad" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41210" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have any tips on developing an audience for a diary? In my first failed attempt, there was one commenter after a week. Should I post shows anyway and wait for people?<p> </p><p> I didn't realise that this thread existed, which might have helped.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've nearly completed a year of my UWF diary and may have set a new record for the fewest comments. That said, 18K+ views shows that there is an audience.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kitarzu" data-cite="Kitarzu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41204" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A billionaire.<p> </p><p> Name: Tikhon Melnikov</p><p> Age: 33 (1 year pro)</p><p> Gender: Male </p><p> Size: Lightweight</p><p> Country: Russia, White</p><p> Active Areas: Europe</p><p> Home Area/Region: Eastern Europe (Europe)</p><p> Role: Non Wrestler, Personality</p><p> Style: None</p><p> Finisher: None</p><p> Appearance/Comparison in real life: Andrey Arshavin</p><p> Works for: None</p><p> </p><p> Bio: Tikhon Melnikov is a Russian billionaire. His fortune is based on his one hundred percent pure Russian vodka, sold successfully in every corner of the world. In an interview released on international business press Melnikov stated he would expand his interests in other ventures, including creating a professional wrestling company in Russia.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Российская Федерация Борьбы</p><p> Rossiyskaya Federatsiya Bor'by</p><p> </p><p> Russian Wrestling Federation, the woken bear of professional wrestling!</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="angeldelayette" data-cite="angeldelayette" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41210" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="font-family:TAHOMA;">Without starting a new thread, I figure this might be the best place to ask this question. Does anyone know why Wikipedia has been edited to remove the Finishing Moves and Signature Moves of a lot of the wrestlers? I admit that I use this to help me when writing matches for my diaries. It makes things a whole lot easier when writing the matches.</span></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Almost as annoying as cagematch and wrestlingdata taking all their pics down! You certainly need some assistance, I've started using youtube to watch footage of guys as I write.</p>

Good to see you're still kicking ass on this!

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RingRider" data-cite="RingRider" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>...And Wikipedia for the win:</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Having TNT too would just be absolute over kill, honestly hadn't noticed Orndorff''s momentum.</p>

Links on the OP are now the V1.2 files, additional should still be used for the pics as this includes everything not featured within the original pack.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's good to know. WWA fails in every mod in this era. It's one of my go-to's for a developmental fed plus they tend to sell when only in $40-80k debt so it is much, much cheaper than starting one so I wouldn't worry about it. I'm going to go ahead with the 1.1 version for my diary because I'm tired of starting over all the time, though I did bump JCP's MA pop to equal SE. It's not going to affect anything other than I'll make more money which isn't a problem.<p> </p><p> Small companies basically have to run nothing but cheap workers outside of a couple of main eventers to have a chance at breaking even in TEW. TV really doesn't pay and will hurt you if you aren't careful, and the AI really isn't careful. Plus, the talent level is so good (accurate btw) that it drives up the price of the workers. One thing that I've not seen suggested is to decouple psychology from worker cost. Good Road Agents shouldn't be the most expensive people you hire until you hit Cult.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't get me started on TV, the guys got paid absolutely jack for doing it and the money was made on the arena shows...monthly or weekly. With Joint, even Kent Walton's wage was covered by ITV. I forget who it was in the USA who was sponsored by Miller beer, but they'd have received a tidy bit of cash for that. As for road agents, so often either the promoter/booker or they didn't have one. It wasn't like now where you have 6 spots written on your wrist tape just in case you forget everything and do all your flippy flop to fill...oh wait, they do that anyway. </p><p> </p><p> I really just wish the AI could handle a Regional promotion, getting audiences around 1,000 to 2,000 and having TV, without driving it in to oblivion or a need for the mod maker to create a weekly house show, which then only takes you too far the other way. You can't even create stripped down events.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, I've been tinkering away and will put another update up at some point tonight.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smartman" data-cite="smartman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Great Lakes, WWF regions Tri and NE, and South West are the regions that aren't part of the NWA meaning you can run there and your home area under the current rules about not running in another territory's region. Well, if you keep JCP in the South East, you can add Mid Atlantic to that list.<p> </p><p> You can run a simulation or two without the area restrictions, but the AI isn't all that smart. I think the default is to try and run a few shows out of their home region (possibly to help them grow?) if possible. For some reason though, the home region block tends to keep them there until they have higher pop. Things like Georgia would run Great Lakes sometimes in the 80 and 83 mods. It would be weird to see CWA running a show in the Mid West or Florida running a show in Texas.</p><p> </p><p> As for the whole succession thing for JCP/WCW, I don't think you can put a narrative in to force a retirement for a non-wrestler so there isn't a surefire way to get rid of Crockett. You could probably game the game to pick Turner to be the new owner most of the time by giving him 100's on his business stats, but it wouldn't be a for sure thing plus the corporation wouldn't be the owner.</p><p> </p><p> I've always been more of a "Just make them WCW early" person than a "Destroy JCP and have WCW spawn from nothingness" person. The AI just doesn't immediately hire everyone they should so their roster is bad which cripples their growth.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Removing protective appears to work okay, as does limiting CWF to Regional. CWF only ran one or two shows outside the South East, which in the grand scheme of things isn't too bad. WWF absolutely decimate the smaller promotions though, so the likes of WWA (Indianapolis) & Big Bear get bought up during 86 (I assume as they were in debt). Can hardly stop that though. Watching a promotion get crowds of 2K+, whilst free falling in to heavy debt, never feels right. But, again, not a lot you can do about that.</p>

<p>Right, here's one to put out there...</p><p> </p><p> What about if I remove the protective part from the NWA, I think Regional promotions would still stay in their Region, whilst also limiting the CWF to Regional. As soon as the CWF go Cult they start promoting outside the South East.</p><p> </p><p> As an aside...has anyone ever tested Crockett retiring in 1988 and Turner coming in loyal to JCP in the hope he gets picked up as the new owner? You could then just do the renames from JCP to WCW instead...If only there were New Owner, Belt Rename and Alliance leaving narratives.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="45191" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can't speak for Smartman, but I wonder if he means that if JCP is based in the Mid Atlantic region, then they wouldn't be able to run shows in Georgia because of the NWA alliance rules with it being a bordered and/or territorial alliance, and with Continental being based in the South East.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah yeah, well I'll run the test anyway...indeed, it's running now.</p>

That can't be right, they'll surely run Georgia if the pop is high. If not, well it's not my fault the game is screwed. I'll run a year tonight, see how the shows get split.