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I've started a new save on the RWC with IMPACT due to their last few shows being great. One thing I'm struggling with is the taping schedule. When starting they had BTI, an hour long, and IMPACT, 2 hours long, taped once a month. So that would have been 12 hours of wrestling for the crowd to watch. So I cancelled BTI for now and moved IMPACT to once a fortnight, so I've got 4 hours of taping every two weeks. First show goes perfect. No issues at all. Second show I always get the burnt out crowd. I put a Calm the Crowd in the pre-show of the second show, open with a steady angle. I try not to overload the second show too much but as soon as I get to last 3 matches, crowd burns out again. Does anybody know what hour the crowd burn out starts at? I read it was 4 hours but it's starting to look like it's more like 3 and a half? I'm going to guess the pre show segments count too?

On my RWC mod, Nick Gage picked up a Severe Concussion and he is out for year. It got me thinking that there are guys, especially on an Indy level, that will work despite injuries like this. I would suggest that there should be an additional type of injury. Currently, work through it, only for angles and out totally are the only options. I think a fourth option, working through at their own risk, could be added to allow situations like this, where people can choose to keep working despite medical advice. It could be tied to a personality trait that people have that mean they will work through an injury that could keep them out. There could also be an additional rule for your company along with things like ban spinal impact moves where you could mandate people can't work through injuries. Overall, I'm advocating for a way to people to keep working despite an injury that would take somebody out. The risk would be that person hurts themselves worse or has to retire early, that their physical health depleats faster due to them working with that injury. It would also add an extra layer to booking as if you had a worker who was doing this, you'd need to be careful how you book them, what matches they are in and how much risk you want to expose them to. The risk/reward factor becomes part of your booking plans moving forward.

Much like how we can put a year, numberal or number at the end of an event, can we get a box that allows you to put an event subtitle at the end? I was watching Starcade 85: The Gathering and I really dig the idea of being able to have a stand alone event that you can add a sub title to without having to modify the main name every time? I would also allow the AI to do the same and create a more vibrant world as it gives a personalisation to certain events that wouldn't be the same between two saves.

Predictable shout from me, can we get the IMPACT Sacrifice logo please? https://heelbynature.com/wrestling-news/impact-wrestling/impact-wrestling-announces-2021-sacrifice-special/

Can we get the No Surrender 2021 logo for IMPACT please? Image is in here. https://whatculture.com/wwe/impact-wrestling-bringing-back-no-surrender

Perfect! Thank you so much.

Could I request a couple of cuts for NWA Events I always do on my saves please? Magnum TA Invitational: https://ibb.co/7pQhFD3 NWA Pop Up: https://ibb.co/T4Kb8TN Thanks!

Thanks for the time and effort put into this. I can't wait to get stuck in. As a side question, is there a picture pack for new gen workers you recommend to use for your mod?

Looking forward to getting my hands on this today, fingers crossed!

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tsdm1996" data-cite="tsdm1996" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="48560" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm not an expert either, let me know if this works.<p> </p><p> <img alt="h58Cyg5.jpg" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/h58Cyg5.jpg" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Edit: <img alt="Ji2YJmv.png" data-src="https://i.imgur.com/Ji2YJmv.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Like before, let me know if this works</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks! This is great.</p>

Can anybody turn the IMPACT Grand Championship from blue to the new Red style belts? I've put the grand title image in here and an example of the new red ones. I've tried on so many programs but I'm a terrible artist! Grand Title: https://ibb.co/HPrvjdP New World Title: https://ibb.co/ckhKzxZ Thanks

So far, I have done the following: Releases: Jack Gallagher, El Ligero, Travis Banks, David Starr (OTT and RevPro, nothing has been said from AAW and PWG), Tessa Blanchard, Michael Elgin, Dave Crist, Zicky Dice, Ricky Starks, Dave Lagana. Scandals: Jack Gallagher and David Starr (Sex Tape has been used as it's the closest. I've set it for 12 months and it's severity of Bad). I've not set anybody else at this time because of the way Scandals work. For example, Travis Banks (despite how horrid what he's been proven to be like is) will still likely find people who will book him and will want to see him. Same for Joey Ryan, who has had stuff like this around him for ages and will probably be booked by the end of the year. I've done Scandals based on how much traction it got (David Starr is by a mile the most high profile as it started off this movement) and the response from the company (Jack Gallagher was immediately released with no investigation unlike all the other WWE performers). Feel free to disagree with me on this but the ability for fans to forget this kind of stuff is well documented. The issues with Ospreay, Tessa, Elgin, Ryan, Cornette and Mike Bird have been known for ages and they still found work and fans! Attributes: Most guys have been given Unfaithful and/or Horndog. Tessa and Ligero have been set as Bully due to the allegations made against them by people. A couple of people have been set to Gloomy, including Dave Crist. David Starr has been set to Insecure. The logic behind this is that while he has apologised and accepted what has happened, he's tried to spin it as if he wasn't being scumbag, which kind of shows his insecurity as a person. He accepts he's done wrong but doesn't want people to think badly of him. I've removed Groundwell of Support and Highly Moral from him too. Nearly everyone who has been listed has been given the Personal Issues attribute as it's temporary and only effects in ring performance, which is a nice way to represent that people will have turned on them but some people will still support them. Will Ospreay has been changed from Driven to Mercenary as he's an asshole who uses his position and following to try dictate what BritWres should become according to him but is selfish about it rather than him being a bully. Company Changes: Progress is now owned by Jon Briley (who hasn't stepped away from his ownership of the company) and booked by Vicky Haskins. Michael Oku/The O.M.J.O tweeted he had stepped away. Vicky Haskins has had her booking skills amended to match the Progress style. Chikara is set to closed as well as their training school. Evolve has had it's money reduced FCP didn't have Martin Zaki or the other guy in the database so I've not made any amends to them, but since I play them on my UK games it doesn't impact on me so much. Relationships: The following people are listed as having a hatred relationship: Candy Cartwright & Matt Riddle Debbie Keitel & El Ligero Sami Callihan & Michael Elgin El Ligero & Sierra Loxton Jack Sexsmith & Sierra Loxton Joe Coffey & Sierra Loxton Millie McKenzie & Travis Banks Mikey Whiplash & Pollyanna Amir Jordan & El Ligero Dan Moloney & David Starr Sebastian & David Starr Dan Moloney & El Ligero Dan Moloney & Travis Banks Starting Absences: David Starr is set at 6 months, Jimmy Havoc is set at 12 week for Rehab, Devlin is 6 weeks for Legal Reasons, Quackenbush is 12 weeks for Personal Reasons and Sammy Guevara is 4 weeks for Personal Reasons. I haven't set anybody else as I'm hoping the other amends I've made will make sure their employment status mirrors what I expect real life will be. Sadly, a lot of what has happened will likely die down and not much will come from it as we've all seen how Wrestling protects itself. I will test the data with a couple of saves and see what happens in the world and judge these amends so far, making any other changes I need to before starting a full save. These things have basically blown all three of my saves up as NWA was using David Starr heavily, IMPACT was using Elgin and Tessa in a big way and my FCP save made a lot of use of Devlin and Joe Coffey! Positive Changes: Out of this, some changes need to be made in the positive, believe it or not. Dan Moloney has been set to Groundwell of Support as he's been very vocal on Twitter and has gained so many plaudits for confronting people over the accusations and amplifying the voices of those coming forward. He's also been set as Heavy Social Media user. Pete Dunne has also been set to Groundwell of Support due to his social media presence ad handling of the situation. Ricky Starks has been added to AEW on a Written Contact

I'd also say that a lot of these guys need the Personal Issues attribute as well as the unfaithful one.

Ligs should be Bully having been a trainee of his and listening to the stuff Amir Jordan, Myles Kayman and others have said. I'd also suggest Dan Molony from FCP get the hatred relationship with Ligs, Banks and Devlin as he is being very outspoken on Twitter.

I have a half formed idea where if a company goes out of business, their tape library could be listed as an investment, the same way you would purchase a title belt. It could also he a part of a take over. The value would be derived from some kind of sum based on the companies popularity at the time of closure, maybe your popularity in their home area too? The value would be a random value between 5 and 30% of your investment over 6 months to a year. For example, CZW goes bust and so you buy their library for your own network. The value of it is $75,000 and the RNG states you get a 15% profit due to interest from your subscribers and it's over 9 months. So the money comes from your finances and in total, you're going to make $131,250 (your initial $75,000 plus the $56,250 profit). That money drips in over 9 months, you you're down on cash to start with, which represents the risk of spending that money on something, but over time you make money based on subscription numbers going up. You could also do the same with something like "Invest in Original Content", where you pick some wrestlers for content on your network and their Entertainment skills are used in a sum to determine how much the content is worth. It's another way to make a network more valuable and to make money in the game, which sometimes can be hard at that midway point when you dont have a lot of big TV.

Just a heads up: The Question Mark in NWA is not set to be wearing a mask.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47535" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong>NEW RELEASE</strong><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.mediafire.com/file/adql56my5yjtl7j/RWC_June_2020.rar/file" rel="external nofollow">DATA</a></p><p> </p><p> Pic Pack: <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545136" rel="external nofollow">joemurphy's SAMPP</a></p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=547978" rel="external nofollow">Free Pics by Sabin</a> (required for newgens)</p><p> </p><p> So, I didn't get absolutely everything done that I wanted to... but I'm exhausted, desperate for a break and I promised that I'd release today, so you guys will have to make do with it being *almost* done. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> There's a to-do list in the changes text file and on the editor whiteboard for convenience so it'll give you an idea of what's missing.</p><p> </p><p> I wrote this in the changes text file but I'll put it here as well because it's significant: most internet subscription services such as Pivotshare, Netflix, IWTV have been removed as in their current state they completely throw off any semblance of balance in the game world and cause ridiculous popularity gains. If you want to import them back in you can do so from the previous update but I strongly recommend against it.</p><p> </p><p> There are some missing pics that will be fixed when the SAMPP update gets released (EDIT: I'm tired and didn't realize that already happened, so ignore this) and some others that I'll be posting in the next few days, but it's nothing major.</p><p> </p><p> As always I hope you guys enjoy and please keep posting suggestions, feedback, anything I've overlooked and things that you feel aren't functioning right because it all helps!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 100% worth the wait. While I can see there are some things missing, for me they make no real impact apart from the CWFH roster (which I can live with for now and import after to be honest). I've tried two other mods that people are raving about and I've had the same frustration with each, either they are woefully generic and made with little care or every wrestler is so overinflated it's impossible to not gain popularity with every show.</p><p> </p><p> I cannot wait to see how much more get's added into this database and I certain I'll be following this like a hawk. The only things I have found that need looking at are:</p><p> </p><p> Zicky Dice is a musician and should have that attribute</p><p> Dan Barry & Bill Carr has poor comedy but are a comedy team</p><p> Sean Mooney works for NWA</p><p> Kyle Davies works for NWA</p><p> Alica Atout doesn't work for NWA</p><p> The Dawsons don't work for NWA</p><p> Sal Rinauro starting injury is a broken arm (likely redundant for July)</p><p> </p><p> Thank you for all the hard work that's gone into this!</p>

Some of the products are a little off. NWA isn't Modern Throwback as they aren't using a lot of the workrate stuff, I think they are Classic Southern Wrestling. The AI books the shows more accurately based on that product and makes more sensible hiring choices (On Modern Throwback, they hired Low Ki of all people!). IMPACT are set as Attitude Era but I think that works for them. ROH may need a glance as I'm not sure Fast and Furious are what they do anymore as they are trying to revamp. I'd still argue this mod is going to be the most accurate one in the long run as it actually presents a challenge to book rather than bumping stats up to make sure people get good grades no matter what.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47535" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>All information is helpful really, but some of the areas you guys could help out with are:<p> </p><p> - Broadcasters (this is due for an overhaul and I've started my research, but any input is welcome - what type of broadcaster are they, are companies losing TV/PPV deals too easily, stuff like that)</p><p> </p><p> - Worker popularity gain (in some cases there's not a lot I can do about it because of how it works in TEW, but I'm trying to find ways I can stop some companies workers from gaining insane amounts of popularity so if you're seeing indie bottom feeders reach the 60s for example, that's good for me to know)</p><p> </p><p> - Workers with overly negative personalities or hard drug habits (the converter loves to take fine upstanding citizens and turn them into Satan, I'll catch most of these just as I go through the workers but still worth mentioning)</p><p> </p><p> Most of the rest of what I'm doing is fairly straightforward I think, just incredibly time consuming. I'm going through sorting out attributes/experience/gimmicks company by company along with event schedules right now. I really don't want to put a date on when it'll be 100% done but I'm most likely going to have something out by June.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Broadcasters is going to be a big one I think. A lot of production related costs are not balanced right now in comparison to 2016. A lot of Internet Subscription broadcasters probably have thresholds set one step too high and will be prohibitive to companies who are on the services already not being able to extend or companies who could potentially be on there not being able to negotiate.</p><p> </p><p> There's also a few broadcasters missing, Honor Club and YouTube Premium are two I've added in</p><p> </p><p> Popularity is weird too, Chris Hero has less popularity than Curtis Axel, despite Hero being on WWE TV more recently than him. Same with people like Tessa Blanchard, she's 51 over all of Canada while people like EC3 and The Revival are around 40 in the USA.</p><p> </p><p> The only other thing I would mention after my first few playthroughs is that it can be a learning curve from 2016. People might not be booking 60+shows right off the bat with Small indy companies but if you book well you can manage to survive the first few months, which are rough. Don't fret if people say it's unbalanced or stats are too low, they really aren't!</p>

I think it's safe to say a lot of us are playing the Beta version of the 2020 data and it's come over really well. What information would be helpful for us to provide from our playthroughs to help you find what if anything needs changing faster?

So this is an example of the issue I get: https://ibb.co/8gJc1MV It's The Dawsons vs. The Rock & Roll Express in the middle of the card. I gave the match 8 minutes, 10 overall and it's been marked down for being "too short for an important match given the product". I'm failing to understand what makes it important. Nobody in the match is in a storyline, it's a Storytelling match, it's in the middle of the card, there's no title on the line, The Dawsons are Recognisable and The Rock and Rolls are stars. I can't understand what importance the game is placing on this match that I am missing! In the 80s, stars would wrestle on TV but squash people with each to keep the idea that they were beasts up. I just got done watching a load of WCW Saturday Night from 1985 and Arn Anderson beat somebody in around a minute and this is common for anybody at his level. Even Terry Taylor managed to win in less than 5 minutes!

Ok, that's along the lines of what I was thinking. I also wonder if it's an issue with how the message is worded. It doesnt make sense to me to have a star be in only 15min+ matches because that isn't realistic. However, if this match length thing is more "the rating for this match is capped by its length despite it having a star in it" rather than "I'm punishing you for putting a star in a 8 minute match against nobody" then that makes sense. Of course the match had the potential to be better if I'd made it longer or put it on PPV. To be honest, I didnt do too badly even with this penalty. I ****ed one show up on angle/match balance which brought me down to tiny size but if I tried again I think I'd do fine. So it's no game breaker, just trying to understand it.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="creepshow" data-cite="creepshow" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="49441" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Modern Throwback penalty states "Matches less than 20 minutes will not be able to achieve world class scores"<p> </p><p> ...if I had to guess, if it's for a throwaway or a squash match it's not going to hurt anyone too much. </p><p> </p><p> But it makes sense. Whoever heard of a 5 star squash match? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It not that I'm after world class scores, it's the part that says "Fans expect important matches to be quite lengthy" and then I get "this match was too short given it's importance" over and over even with guys who should be in throw away matches.</p>

Hello I've just done the first 4 tapings of NWA Powerrr using what was the Fleisch database and I've very few issues with the new game, which has been awesome. However, the one issue I have had over and over is the penalty for match length. Despite me having some very unimportant matches, with wrestlers who are deemed as unimportant by the game (C.W. Anderson vs. Sal Rinaro is one of them), the game has told me the match was too short for it's importance and has default set every match to 15 minutes, which has got in the way of me booking some shorter matches with one main event player and one unimportant wrestler. Is this working as intended? How does the game define what's important and what isn't? Is the penalty very steep? I don't know if this is an issue or not but I'd like to understand this part more as I think the product is right for NWA but I think this part of it will cause me some headaches!

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Questlove" data-cite="Questlove" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47535" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks for this! The first beta I put out was mostly focused on larger companies and was just to tide people over and give them a small glimpse of how the mod looks on 2020, so there's a lot of stuff like you mentioned that hadn't been converted properly. I'll be releasing an update soonish that's had a lot more work done on a larger amount of companies, NWA included.<p> </p><p> Broadcasters are in line for a big overhaul that I haven't done a lot of work on yet but yeah, I will get YouTube updated.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This sounds awesome. I suspected it would be this but I'm looking forward to this mod so much I think I will end up starting this as soon as the game is released!</p>