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  1. it should be the most up-to-date data. That said, by absolute pure chance, I started pecking at the data again. Namely just adding some "to debut" workers and correcting a few tiny things. So there may be an update in the coming... lets say couple months. Basically what I did was go through AEW & WWE's current rosters and pulled out anyone who debut before 2008 (or so) as well as a few others that popped into my head for some reason to add. I already added a small handful but cant remember who. List of people who MAY be added by the next update, also note people are added under debut-accurate names 99% of the time so not necessarily the name listed below. TO ADD: Paul Ellering (ADDED) Ricochet (ADDED) Emi Motokawa aka Emi Sakura (ADDED) Yutzak Arafat aka Alex Abrahantes (ADDED) Rob Eckos aka Robbie E aka Mr. Stone (ADDED) Kevin Paine aka Keith Lee (ADDED) Steven Walters aka Cash Wheeler aka Dash Wilder (ADDED) KC McKnight aka Dax Harwood aka Scott Dawson (ADDED) Mascara Oriental aka Rey Fenix (ADDED) Nick Jackson (ADDED) Matt Jackson (ADDED) JC Ryder aka Fire Ant aka Orange Cassidy (ADDED) Scorpio Sky (ADDED) The Stro aka The Maestro (ADDED) Shoichi Ichimiya (ADDED) Joe Doering (ADDED) Ryota Hama (ADDED) Hartley Jackson (1999) Kevin Matthews (2000) Mikey Nicholls (2001) Pat Buck (2001) Alexander Wolfe (2001) Chuck Taylor (2002) Mike Bennett (2002) Dan Eckos (2002) Brodie Lee (2003) Andrade/Brillante Jr. (2003) Raymond Rowe (2003) Shane Matthews/Matt Menard (2003) Scott Parker/Angelo Parker (2003) Shane Haste (2003) Bryan Kelly (2003) Bandido/Eddie Orengo (2003) Wolfgang (2003) Tyler Black (2004) Wade Barrett (2004) Player Uno (2004) Nick Aldis (2004) Plazma/Trent Beretta (2004) Jinder Mahal (2004) QT Marshall (2004) Shiima Xion (2004) Johnny Gargano (2005) Tommaso Ciampa (2005) Punishment Martinez (2005) Austin Creed (2005) Dorian Deville (2005) Stupefied/Stu Grayson (2005) Brian Cage (2005) Akira Tozawa (2005) Tony Nese (2005) Michael Nakazawa (2005) Brandon Cutler (2005) Kofi Kingston (2006) Jake Hager (2006) Joe Gacy (2006) Ethan Page (2006) Ariya Daivari (2006) Vincent (2006) Pentagón Jr. (2007) Rush (2007) Jey Uso (2007) Jimmy Uso (2007) Pete Dunne (2007) Bronson Reed.Jonah Rock (2007) AR Fox (2007) Adam Cole (2008) Adam Page (2008) Miro (2008) Bo Dallas (2008) Ludwig Kaiser (2008) Bray Wyatt (2009) Roman Reigns (2010) WOMEN: FMW: AKINO (1998) Chaparita ASARI (1992) Kaori Yoneyama (1999) Misae Genki (1994) Jillian Hall (1998) Amber O'Neal (1999) Mercedes Martinez (2000) Krissy Vaine (2000) Rain (2001) MsChif (2001) Candice LeRae (2002) Sarah Stock (2002) Daizee Haze (2002) Nikki Roxx (2002) Christie Ricci (2002) Shantelle Taylor (2003) Portia Perez (2003) Josie (2003) Kana (2004) Tiana Ringer (2004) Serena (2005) Riho (2006) AJ Lee (2007) Ashley Lane (2007) Iyo Sky (2007) Dakota Kai (2007) Viper/Piper Niven (2007) Bayley (2008) Hikaru Shida (2008) Nikki Cross (2008)
  2. Dont expect any updates for the reason I stated. Weirdly though, I opened the data just 2-days ago for the first time in 6-some odd months and added 2-or-3 workers because I was bored. The "worst" part of the data is the Broadcasters, and I really just have no interest in working on them at the moment or foreseable future. Besides that, I do consider the data "done" and any other updates are simply things I've felt like adding. If someone wants to redo broadcasters or find me a "Free to import" work done by someone else, please feel free to help. (same with Arenas) My goal with the data was to be able to play about 10-years. Thats 9-years longer then I think most saves go. Ultimately 97% of the major players in real-life WWE through the Ruthless Aggression & PG Era (2018 or so), are in the data (except all the divas) and 80% of the major indy guys for that period are there too.
  3. For signings, the biggest most obvious one I always think basically everyone should sign with the mod is Rob Van Dam. He's not the most wrestler available (is it Curt Hennig? I'd have to check) but he's properly one of the best workers in the data.
  4. I do "rounded" stats for 2 reasons. First, its easier/quicker. Whats Bill DeMott as a Brawler at this time? I dunno, a 60? 65? 70? Call it 65. He was good enough that it seemed like there was something there, but he never did put on classic matches, but maybe that is more how he was used... Is he a 62? Is that really different then 65? 67? Is that really different. 65 gives him the ability to fairly quickly become a proper upper-midcarder and put on quality but not world class matches. 60 would do that to. 70 likely makes him too good and able to more easily give 80-rated matches where him hanging around the 60's-to-70's (with the right opponents) seems about right. Second, ratings are so subjective so it makes both balacing easier, and instead of saying "Yea! This guy was a 62 for sure, 100% I know best." I'm instead saying "He's somewhere around here I think. You can probably agree within 5-either way in most cases." So again think of DeMott. Maybe you and others think he isnt a 65, he should be closer to a 70. Well, he basically is. Maybe you think he's worse and should be closer to 60. He basically is. Also, Now compare him to someone else. Sean O'Haire? Well at this time, O'Haire is green and learning, so he's worse, but he had sick moves and strikes. So if DeMott is a 65... 60? 55? Sounds about right. You can again argue 5-points either way, but its more of a "feeling" of a stat then an exact. The main idea (and dont get me wrong, I'm likely wrong on many cases) is most workers, at a glance, are "yea thats about right" then only upon really digging in you can maybe go. "Actually, he probably should be different here or there" And as Idol pointed out, I like to think because the "feel" is there, if you really want random numbers and to pine over "so and so is 61, and so and so is 63" as opposed to both likely just being 60, the game has that built in variance feature.
  5. just a fyi, while this data is not dead, I recently had a major life event (new baby!) which will prevent me from really working on it for a good long while.
  6. Just coming up to December in my WCW 2001 game, using my "Here Comes The Money" mod (check it out now!) Here's the card for WCW Starrcade and I'll break down each title/persons going ons over the last 8-months: WCW Starrcade 2001 WCW World Heavyweight Championship - Caged Heat Match Booker T vs. Diamond Dallas Page (c) - Booker T started as WCW & Shane McMahon's golden child. He defeated DDP at WCW Big Bang, its rebirth event. On the first Nitro after Big Bang, and first Nitro under Shane's ownership, Shane offered DDP a spot at the commentary table, which DDP accepted. However, DDP didnt really want to step away from the ring but did so anyway. After only a short month on the desk, DDP encouraged by Kanyon beat the living hell out of Shane McMahon decreeing he had plenty left in the tank. This led to DDP, with lots of Kanyon help, eventually defeating Shane in a match and capturing the WCW World Heavyweight title. After months battling, Booker T & DDP face off for the ultimate prize. Booker will win this and become a 5-time WCW Champion and DDP will begin to transition down the card. WCW United States Championship Rob Van Dam vs. Lance Storm (c) - The US title was vacated at Big Bang and decided in the "Big Bang Brawl" which a debuting Jesse James won. James had a short reign and was defated by Sean O'Haire (w/Don Callis) who had a slightly longer run before losing the belt in a 4-way match to Storm. RVD & Storm have been circling each other since Big Bang, not having faced off in a singles match. I purposely held RVD out of a singles run, wanting to allow a few other stars to get established as I feel RVD will get established naturally (and has), and instead debut him in a team with Tommy Dreamer and the two had a semi-lengthy Tag Team title run before losing the belts. Dreamer then gave RVD his blessing to go solo not wanting to hold him back. This match is hopefully going to be great! WCW World Cruiserweight Championship The Hurricane (c) vs. Super Crazy vs. Chavo Guerrero Jr. vs. Christopher Daniels - WCW Cruiserweight belt was around the wast of Daniels for most of the year, taking it from Helms early on. Daniels went on to "rid the earth" of 3-Count, who had reformed as faces with the help his own enforcer "V" (Viscera). Seeing his friends destroyed, Helms retired from in-ring competition to become a backstage interviewer. It was then a mysterious hero appeared, "The Hurricane" vowing to rid WCW of evil and injustice and set his sites on Daniels. He defeated Daniels last month at Mayhem for the belt and this is kind of a "get people on the card" type match. Chavo hasn't really done much besides be a midcard place holder for most of the year, and though Super Crazy debut early on, he too has not done much. WCW World Tag Team Championships Roadkill & Tommy Dreamer vs. Billy Kidman & Mike Awesome w/Torrie Wilson vs. Mark Jindrak & Shawn Stasiak w/Stacy Keibler vs. The FBI of Chuck Palumbo & Johnny Stamboli (c) w/Guido Maritato - The tag belts spent most of the last 9-months around RVD & Tommy Dreamers waists. After defeating pretty much everyone, they lost the titles to the FBI when "The Boss" Guido Maritato debut and helped the Italians win. After the match, Dreamer asked RVD to persue a singles career since he felt he was holding him back, but quickly revealed the young Roadkill as his protege and new partner, vowing to win back the gold. Palumbo & O'Haire started as tag champs, but lost the belts to RVD & Dreamer when O'Haire turned his back on his partner to go under the tutelage of Don Callis. Palumbo stayed face for a whole month when Stamboli approached him and advised him to "come back to the family" the two promptly turned heel and became top contenders. After failing to win the belts, they warned "The Boss" was coming. Guido Maritato did indeed come and has helped raise the team to new heights. Guido thus far has only been a manager but will begin his own in-ring career soon. Stasiak & Stacy again hadnt done much besides lose, Stacy revealed Jindrak as a new client and the tag team is starting to gain a tiny bit of momentum. The longer story here is that of Billy Kidman, Torrie Wilson & Mike Awesome. Mike Awesome became infatuated with Torrie, who had returned to manager her fiance Billy Kidman and began to stalk her. He eventually won her managerial services from Kidman in a ladder match. Through that he forced Torrie to go on various "business meetings" which were clearly Awesome's attempt at dates. Bowling, a movie, canoe trip. Enraged Awesome was trying to steal his love, Kidman would show up and ruin all these events. During these "dates" Torrie would try to explain what love was to an oblivious Awesome. Eventually Awesome also won Billy Kidman's contract and forced Kidman to be his partner. Kidman would refuse and do whatever he could to protect Torrie who kept getting caught in the cross-hairs of matches. Awesome began to understand love and offered to free Kidman & Torrie of their contracts as long as they stayed his friends. Kidman refused citing what Awesome had put them through and instead won his & Torrie's freedom in a final match. It was after this match however Torrie & Kidman revealed they would be Awesome's friends anyway when he protected them from the attacking duo of Jindrak & Stasiak. The angles that made this storyline SUCKED, but I loved it because I could so easily imagine all the pretaped vignettes of Awesome taking Torrie bowling, but Kidman disguising himself as a Pinhead to watch over them before attacking Awesome with a bowling pin... And the idea of Awesome being somewhat... slow... about how relationships worked and learning the value of "true love" through seeing Kidman & Torrie's relationship makes me smile. Hardcore Match Shane McMahon vs. Sean O'Haire w/Don Callis - Callis turned O'Haire on Palumbo and led O'Haire to a quick US title win. After losing the belt, Callis wanted to take his client to win the big one, but McMahon said O'Haire hadn't proved himself a top contender yet. This led to O'Haire prompltly laying out the WCW Owner, and the two entering this feud! This is kind of just a toss-in match. I wanted O'Haire to do something, but felt a 1-on-1 with D'Lo or Morrus wasnt big enough. And I wanted RVD vs. Storm as well as Booker T vs. DDP to be 1-on-1 too, so Shane was really the only "name" left. Fatal-4 Way Match D'Lo Brown vs. Hugh Morrus vs. Jesse James vs. Kanyon -Just a throw in match of the rest of the "midcard" as it were. The roster is very small and tight right now. 2002 is really the year to expand it. D'Lo is the one star I've managed to get from WWF for a reasonable price thus far. D'Lo, Morrus & James are all faces. I'm likely going to turn Morrus heel soon and rebrand him Bill DeMott and probably have him go into a storyline where he hates the "new WCW" and feels overlooked for the new talent both young and old. I imagine D'Lo or James win this one to help initiate that angle. While Kanyon is a great talent, he'll likely stick in a team with DDP and move into the tag title scene. I am hoping to steal a pretty big talent from WWF soon to come in as my top heel as DDP cant really fill that role, his matches are not good enough. And I dont feel Storm is a realistic top heel. O'Haire can be a top monster heel but I I think you need more than that. There's an outside chance I end up having to turn Booker to run RVD vs. Booker T as my top feud next year, but we will see. I feel like in a real life situation, RVD would not get booed so has to stay face, but I also feel WCW fans would be very attached to Booker and have a hard time booing him as well so I feel kind of forced into keeping them both face.
  7. He was retired. I suppose I could add him. But he'd be retired and his stats would be useless. I edited the second post to include a large list of wrestlers who people may "miss" due to their historically accurate names. I think I take for granted I'm a mid-30's wrestling nerd who knows who guys are or were, and I've seen a few games on youtube where people dont even realize Bryan Danielson is in the data because they dont think to look for American Dragon. Speaking of people playing the data, feel free to let me know if you have a dynasty or youtube series or what not going. I enjoy seeing what people do, and its useful to see other people play for future balancing/additions. For example, I feel broadcasters need much more attention then I've given them after seeing a few games. Some Shout Outs To Some Content I've Seen: WCW: Reigniting The Fire By CactusZach (Dynasty) AuspiciousAussie (YouTube) Route 616 (YouTube) The Bookerman (YouTube)
  8. Updated Data & Graphics posted. Some minor changes I didnt track (I may start tracking stuff going forward). The big change is I completely redid/re-balanced the Experience & Reputation stats of every single worker. EDIT: I've also updated the Fast Forward Data.
  9. For a companies Hall of Fame, a tag team will go by the specific tag team name they have for that company, not necessarily the name they have for their non-company team. For example Edge & Christian instead of The Suicide Blondes. However, if Edge is put in the WWE hall of fame he will go in as Adam Copeland, not Edge. I think if an alter ego is 100%, it should be the name they go into the HOF with.
  10. just a choice I made. Tajiri did sign with WWF sometime in May of 2001. Like I've said a few times I'm a glutten for punishment, specifically when playing as WCW. Having Tajiri in WWF is just another obvious signing off the block forcing me to look to different options. That said, I have been modding the data some, lots of small changes. I also added Steve Corino's Premier Wrestling Federation. I toyed with adding the Internet Wrestling Syndicate, but the information just isnt there to give it an acceptable starting roster. My next big plan I decided is to go through the data and re-balance all the reputation & experience ratings since I did not 100% understand how they worked until recently.
  11. Updated a 1.1 data up with the events fixed and some other (very few) small changes. Dont expect any updates soon as I just want to play the game for a bit. I will likely throw together a proper "Historical" version of the mod, meaning a non-scenario/fantasy completely "real" data. Which basically just throws all the WCW guys into the WWF.
  12. Oh, I see. Somehow completely missed that. I wont do the Royal Rumble because then the Royal Rumble title isnt set to defend there. Same is said of King of the Ring.
  13. RTC is basically broken up at this point. But you are right they did not officially disband until the end of May. They had walked away from Stevie, but weirdly kept the gimmick despite Stevie then disappearing from TV. I feel like when that happened is really when RTC ended, but technically I guess they didnt. For pure realism, I guess they should still be in, but without Stevie. I had made the choice to just have them broken up since they basically were. NEW RELEASE KIND OF In the first post you will see I have added what I call the "fast forward" data. Oddly, one of the reasons I tried to make this data as accurate as possible is SO many datas, if not all, from this time period tend to do a lot of "fast forwarding" I disagree with. The most obvious example is Memphis Championship Wrestling is often already gone as a developmental territory and HWA is in its place. But many also have lots of WWF stars released that really shouldnt be on top of others things. The ironic part is, I find certain fast forwards do make the game more enjoyable, to me at least. So I have released a special sub-data which I call the Fast Forward. Things Fast Forwarded Off The Top Of My Head: 1. MCW is closed. -American Dragon, Spanky, Joey Matthews, Christian York, Joey Abs & Rodrageous are all released. Dragon & Spanky have contracts with some indy companies, Abs & Rodrageous are out of the business. Victoria is moved to the main WWF roster. The rest are moved to HWA. 2. IWA is no longer a developmental territory to WWF -D'Lo is in HWA. Chaz is released. Tiger Ali Singh & Russ McCullough have left the business. Gangrel is still with IWA, but not under a dev-deal. Pete Gas is a free agent, but still active (as he is the only MSP member to stay active initially after the release, and I personally LOVE hiring him since he's Shane's IRL friend to use as a jobber) 3. HWA is a developmental company for WWF. -They have most MCW leftovers, D'Lo Brown, Val Venis & Stevie Richards. 4. Right To Censor are fully broken up. Venis & Stevie are in HWA, Buchanan OVW. Ivory is still on the main roster. Goodfather is back to Godfather and on hiatus. 5. AJPW Pro-Wrestling Love is live! -Keiji Muto is in AJPW and their CEO & Booker. Baba is out of the business. Kojima & Kashin have jumped to AJPW. All three still have 6-month loaner deals with NJPW, but will expire in 6-months. Choshu is no longer booker of NJPW. I mate Fujinami the booker, I cant 100% figure out who took over the book once Choshu was ousted for being blamed for Muto & Friends jumping to AJPW. So feel free to try it if you want. It is worth saying, to be kind of a prick. I do not care about input on what I have or have not fast forwarded. I literally just do this because its how I enjoy playing longer-time-commitment saves. This is actually the best example of what I mean when I tell people to modify my data and play a version they like, as this is basically what this is for me. And since I do this, I might as well release it. So you modify my data... might as well release it.
  14. the NJPW and WWE ones are on purpose. WWF events go dormant and are replaced by WWE ones. NJPW, I wanted WrestleKingdom to show up in-name despite by butterfly effect rule so it shows up in 2005 while wrestling world will go dormant then. The rest are mistakes. Thanks!
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