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Hi, just a quick one on this. Im not here to try and get to changes any attributes. I always download a mod and alter any to my liking anyway before playing. The mod looks really really good and a tip for anyone who would like more long term wrestlers in there (download another mod with extensive future wrestlers, change the date to the same date as this, and import not yet debuted)
The detail especially in terms of the wrestlers personality etc are very detailed.
The only thing i really wanted to mention is toughness. My belief is its meant to be how tought the wrestler is in terms of a fight? The numbers you have put in seem quite off, just wanted to point it out to you.
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Somethings happened at GDS. Its like thy're trying to sabotage their own game
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<p>Could a make a suggestion.</p><p> </p><p>
Could the real world mods be listed under the subheading of something like complete and WIP</p><p> </p><p>
Also could they be listed in year order and any real world mod be added in there? Eg I was looking for real world mods and had no idea there was a 92 mod out until the creator messaged on one of my threads. They are listed under his mods but it’s not something you would look for on here.</p><p> </p><p>
Just thinking it may be easier for people to find</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47565" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's not a thread I look at. It does seem weird other mods are split into fantasy, real world etc but to be honest, I don't care enough as I tend to get the bulk of my downloads from Twitter followers anyway.<p> </p><p> Hope you enjoy the 1992 mod. I don't debate stats unless something is extremely wrong but would love any errors you find as I like my mods to be as good as they possibly can be, but also with an element of "anything could happen" for the future.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think because you do different mods they categorised it as one, which they have with others who make different mods. Don’t think it’s done with any intention. It’s a suggestion I’ll make on that thread because it would be much better</p>
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<p>I’ve downloaded the 92 mod and on first looks it looks really really good. Can’t wait to play it.</p><p> </p><p>
Just a suggestion. I don’t know if you would like more people to download your mods, but on the mod index thread yours are listed under another category. I think if you had each mod listed separate to it would help. I only really knew about this mod because you posted on a thread of mine.</p>
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I didn't like 2020 & had no previous issue. I just thought that it was a worse game at release than 2016. Both are subpar in the modern landscape of games, so hopefully the upcoming competitors offer something fun. So that first point doesn't even clear the person you're talking to, so it's all in your head.
The boards were toxic from both trolls & the ones running it, but you ignored that part of what I said. Completely ignored how they handled it very poorly & started deleting any critical comment or thread, even if completely valid & present in a completely objective way.
I can't speak for the people that didn't get back to you, but it's possible they don't want to interact with you at all because of the comments you make, like here. I know that I won't any further, so I couldn't blame them.
"People only disliked TEW 2020 because they were brainwashed into it by people who weren't even active in the community! They sabotaged the game by changing the rules even though said rules were exactly the same during TEW 2016's life, which... is a game they modded for!"Mate, posts like this are exactly why people were so annoyed when 2020 came out and exactly why a lot of modders deserted it for something else. Take the L, good lord, this is absolute lunacy.
You can try and twist it all you want. The people I am talking about disliked 20 because they already had an issue. The rule change on modding came after large arguments, the people who got the rules changed to their taste became toxic from the fallout, they carry on modding but tried their best to pull down new people modding. I am nothing to do with why people left. You think people leave a game because of me? I was merely an observer and saw both sides of the arguement and interacted with the toxic people after.
I can’t even remember the year I joined but it was a while before that because I read as a visitor.
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I didn't like 2020 & had no previous issue. I just thought that it was a worse game at release than 2016. Both are subpar in the modern landscape of games, so hopefully the upcoming competitors offer something fun. So that first point doesn't even clear the person you're talking to, so it's all in your head.
The boards were toxic from both trolls & the ones running it, but you ignored that part of what I said. Completely ignored how they handled it very poorly & started deleting any critical comment or thread, even if completely valid & present in a completely objective way.
I can't speak for the people that didn't get back to you, but it's possible they don't want to interact with you at all because of the comments you make, like here. I know that I won't any further, so I couldn't blame them.
This is literally the type of toxic you’re talking about. Your entire post
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Doesn't matter when you were around. The take is still a bad one IMO.
The state of TEW was in a much better place before TEW **** the bed with the 2020 release. Not only did it disappoint so many modders, but the boards then became incredibly hostile as well, and not just from trolls, but from those running it & it pissed off many more people than just those that chose to leave. The censorship that occurs here is absurd nowadays & it started with the 2020 release because it was getting less than pure praise. In fact, this comment will almost certainly be removed, as they do not like any criticism of the product or their handling of it, no matter how it's presented.
Again, why don't you make a mod or ask to take over a mod? It solves your entire problem & allows you to contribute to a community that you are acting like you care about. If you care so much make it better by modding more. Lord knows TEW needs the free content from modders in order to continue to make money & survive to ever release something after 2020.
The people didn’t like 2020 because they already had an issue, he game is much better. The boards were toxic led by people who wanted to be toxic. I’ve asked before to take permission of a mod, from someone who previously took a mod over from someone else. They didn’t reply but then complained that someone that someone had tried to use their mod a few months later and said all they needed to do was ask… which was a lie because I had asked.
You do get new people coming on and changing a mod and releasing it, but grey dog have always protected that.
Some people managed to gain enough sway in the community to get people side with them, get the rules change and completely sabotage the release of 2020.
It’s a much better game than 16
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Still a few of us about. I have a couple of mods out. I'm currently working on a 1998 mod but it has proven to be a little trickier than the 1992 mod I released.
I now only work on things I want to play myself - which is why I quit doing the RWC mod and handed it off to Questlove. All the while I'm having fun creating, I'll continue to do so. Once I get people throwing tantrums because I gave someone 65 in psych instead of 66 is when I'll likely stop.
I have downloaded the 92 mod and it looks great, even better to it used 91 as a base as I felt that was the best done mod I’ve played. I’ll give it a try, thank you
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You clearly missed the mass exodus shortly after the really messy release of TEW 2020 & are now acting entitled to other people's work.
The solution to this is incredibly simple. Just make your own mod. It only takes a few thousand hours to make a really good one & you can make it anything you want it to be, even the exact same era that you loved in another mod. You could also reach out to a previous modder & offer to take over ownership/production of the mod, using it as a base if you want a good one for only ~400hr investment.
If you really want to play a previous TEW 2016 mod that has not yet been released for 2020, convert it in 2020 yourself with the new conversion feature, then invest the 10-20 hours it takes to correct all the conversion mistakes it generates. That's how I'm playing Genadi's amazing mods in 2020. If you're only using it for personal use & not sharing it around, no one cares & it violates no rules. It's only when you go taking credit for someone else's hours of work as your own, that there's a problem.
I don't know if you realize it, but the freeware handoff situation usually completely removes the original/previous "owners" of the mod from any further connection beyond a credit. It's been common for the past 4 years at least.
Requesting rules be changed in this manner is more than ridiculous & shows a lack of understanding of the situation TEW is currently in. Quality modders barely want anything to do with TEW nowadays & you want to make it even less appealing. TEW only exists today because of the modding community that supports it. You keep driving away the hard working, quality modders & you're left with "C-Verse:The Game" + Gaz.
Or maybe I was around way before the point you’re talking about and saw the rules get changed to the current rules to keep those people happy who ended up saying nobody can use my stuff even with credit and I’m going. The mass exodus was after the rules got put in place to suit these people.
Half the mods at some point have used other peoples stuff or started with a different owner other than the current owner.
The state of TEW and modding was in a much better place when mods were shared and used by other people.
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Not going to turn this thread into an argument, but you're alone on an island with this. People have every right to mod for whatever game they want and if they were so catered to, why would they "take their ball and go home"? Makes no sense. I get being disappointed that mods you want to play might not be available to you but if the people who spend literally thousands of hours working on them don't want to make them freeware, that's completely their right and you're just going to have to accept it I'm afraid. Saying it's not aimed at me because I'm making mods for TEW is a bit of an insult, I mod for TEW because I want to and if the day comes when I don't want to anymore, I don't really care whether other people like it or not because it's not them putting in the work.
If anyone wants to pay me or any other modders to stay exclusive to TEW they're welcome to make an offer though!
I don’t know how long you have been on here etc but you would know exactly what I’m talking about. It’s not about people not modding anymore. People modded and used parts of other peoples work, or had help off other people, even took over freeware and don’t allow other people to use it. There was a massive issue on here and that’s why the rules in place. They then went and obviously are going to take their mods (that other people will have had input into) to another game.
You can feel insulted if you like, but again nothing I said was aimed at you so not sure why you’re trying to feel insulted. I’m not questioning why anybody likes to mod, majority is for themselves or because they like it, and nobody should stay exclusive to any game or anything like that.
Actually paid you a compliment
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It is because
A: it’s Adam’s game and database the mods are made on.
B: The rules of this forum specifically don’t allow it.
When you are using pictures and imitating real people you have no rights what do ever. I mean you could always try and take someone to court but see how that pans out.
It isn’t actually aimed at you as you are still making mods for tew. You may have missed the boat with the whole modding scene on TEW but people were definitely catered to and still took their ball home. I can guarenteed a large portion of the missing community of the new game will be previous modders on here who have picked their toys up and found a new Pram to play with them in.
Again though let me re-iterate it’s nothing aimed at you. The fact that you even mention freeware puts you in a whole different category to the type of people I’m talking about
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Respectfully, it's nothing to do with Adam what people do with their mods or where they take them. He's not the one putting in the time on them. Just like it's nothing to do with anybody what Adam does with TEW.
It's way too early to be having a hissy fit over what permission people give for their mods when the other game isn't even out yet. From my perspective I don't think I'd care if people used my stuff as long as credit was given, RWC has always been freeware and will stay that way, but free use of other mods is up to nobody but the people who made them. It's nothing to do with "taking their ball with them" or "being catered to" lmao
It is because
A: it’s Adam’s game and database the mods are made on.
B: The rules of this forum specifically don’t allow it.
When you are using pictures and imitating real people you have no rights what so ever. I mean you could always try and take someone to court but see how that pans out.
It isn’t actually aimed at you as you are still making mods for tew. You may have missed the boat with the whole modding scene on TEW but people were definitely catered to and still took their ball home. I can guarenteed a large portion of the modding community of the new game will be previous modders on here who have picked their toys up and found a new Pram to play with them in.
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So in this case, Questlove makes the RWC mod and therefore the mod ownership falls to them. If Questlove chooses to use the RWC in another booking simulator then that's up to them and it still follows the board rules on mods/ownership of mods.
Now if someone else were to take RWC (to use it as an example) and port it to another game without Questlove's permission it's poor ethics (GDS mods couldn't really do anything about it unless the ported mod was posted here mind).
Yes I understand, but the rules on this site of mod ownership really needs to be relaxed because you have people utilising this game, creating mods and taking them elsewhere.
All because a few mod makers got upset and were catered to, they now have taken their ball with them.
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Pro Wrestling Promoter, it's a new booking sim in development with many modders already on board to convert their mods and hopefully have them out when the game releases. From my end I can say RWC will be ready for release whenever it is. I'd love to have the 2005 mod ready when the game comes out as well but that might be unrealistic
Wait a minute, so you are just going to be able to take the mod for TEW and convert to PWP? but yet people cant take the mod at will from TEW2016 to TEW2020?
if this is the case then Adam need to rethink the rules on mods
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Still a few of us about. I have a couple of mods out. I'm currently working on a 1998 mod but it has proven to be a little trickier than the 1992 mod I released.
I now only work on things I want to play myself - which is why I quit doing the RWC mod and handed it off to Questlove. All the while I'm having fun creating, I'll continue to do so. Once I get people throwing tantrums because I gave someone 65 in psych instead of 66 is when I'll likely stop.
How much did you do on your 1992 mod? In terms of attributes and time decline etc? I know your mods are good but you usually do modern mods so never really played them.
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Ive not been on for a while. I think the lack of updated mods and the fact some old mod makers have either stopped or not allowed people to use their old mods is a factor.
- Who is actively mod making?
- Who is looking for a mod to work on?
The mod list just tends to say w.i.p. We need to get the mods section thriving.
I mainly played 1991 (because that mod was so well done) 1997 & 2001, but none have been continued for TEW2020
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I like this mod, 1997 for me was around the time i started watching nearly every RAW and PPV.
i would say though when I first started the game a lot of workers looked OP.
I simulated a watcher game and about a year and half later the WWF have 90 million, and still have the same stars at the top. (time decline?)
it seems like none of the top two will have any struggles going out of business (in reality WWF were not far off and we all know what happened to WCW)
The locker room seems too happy. Triple H a positive influence?
Other than that a great mod and love the pic pack too.
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I'm talking about getting somebody to come out of retirement.
Also as I already said, I recognise there is an feature in the game that may work but I am focused on the fact that there used to be an option in the editor to manually bring somebody out of retirement. This thread is about me suggesting that option returns.
Don’t you just go into the editor and change them from ‘retired in ring’ to ‘active wrestler’ or something along those lines?
Or has that been removed
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And another addition to this.
He is lying about the fact that he would let someone use it if they asked. I have asked on a couple of occasions dating back months and have had no reply.
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Just to add, the fact that it is called Peaking Tides means that it is the same mod (same name) that was free to use.
The mods should allow the link to go back up
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Literally its not even his work. He added to it.. thats it.
Hes taken a Mod that was created by someone, then altered by someone else (who made it free to use) added about 1% - 5% of work to it and claimed it as his own.
Took it down for some reason and now nobody can use it.
Very strange. The creator (JustaYank) did not give him the only rights and permission to the mod.
Not that anyone owns anything as its based on real people anyway, but the whole modding debate over the years has meant people have to 'ask' which is fine if someone has created a mod. but this is not a created mod.
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That was my immediate thought. Adam's games already do that aspect so well, nothing I could do would make it different enough. My feeling was the manager/coach aspect of Boxing with career/aging hasn't really been done, and I could do it justice, I think.
Id just like to add my part. As someone who has looked for a great boxing management game for years. There is a massive market out there surely with the numbers in boxing.
Its a MUST to have the role of promoter. Maybe even one where you can train, promote or both. But the promoting aspect of boxing is by far the biggest part now.
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<p>The maturity age: I’m pretty sure is physical skills. Before they hit this age, their physics skills will increase at a faster rate. After they hit it, they will still increase but slower.</p><p> </p><p>
This age is preset in the editor I’m pretty sure between 20-30 (may be slightly wrong) or it can be set as random.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>
Decline age: This is the point they will stop increasing and start to decline. In the last TEW, everything apart from entertainment/commentary skills seemed to decline, minus a few things such as psychology, basics, etc. I’m sure saw Adam mention somewhere that mental skills can still increase after this. This again is set in editor between 30-55 or 30-65 (can’t remember exactly) ornagain random.</p><p> </p><p>
Relevency age: I’m pretty sure this is when the entertainment skills start to decrease.</p>
May 2001 Real World Data - Here Comes The Money
in Total Extreme Wrestling 2020 Mods
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Just an update on this. I'm playing it now and its really really good. For longevity I did add future workers from other mods, but ive currently done 6 months game time and its really spot on. Doesn't seem like workers are OP and doesn't seem like the maker of the mod has preferred wrestlers that hes bumped up.