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    can someone explain the finish to the silvia fight to me? from what i seen before the previews it looked like the ref stopped it and both fighters was a lil loss and sonnen looked like he was still going at silva. then they showed the previews and to me it looked like he waved his hand trying to find silvas leg in some of the video while some of them looked like he tapped his leg 2x's and then started to fight to get the legs off. then i watched the pfc and the first clip doesnt look like a tap (it showed right above sonnens head) it looked like he was reaching for the leg and couldnt grasp it. im not sticking up for sonnen but he said he didnt tap and to me it doesnt look like it and he seemed upset about it.

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    well i love real life mods for the fact that its usually a lot of peoples opinions in it and yea sometimes u get crazy fights which is also could really happen. even royce gracie will lose a match in the game to someone complete out of his league. i made a guy with his starts completely filled out and he loses not a lot but he loses.

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    was wondering if anyone else bases some of there guessing who's going to win a match based off of wmma? i'd admit i do somewhat and i thought i'd post this for since it's pretty crazy. durring my mw7 game strike build a ppv around fedor vs werdum and it went to a decision with werdum winning shockling im pretty surprised and it was there first fights since starting the game. i also booked rashan vs rampage winning with rashad winning the first two rounds to be only knocked out in 27 secs of the third round. imo rampage is going to win and fedo's fight i never seen werdum fight but im still going for fedor :)

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    There are a lot of people who share that feeling. The trouble is, Kimbo wasn't knocking anyone out (and technically, has only knocked out Tank Abbott in his entire pro and amateur career). On the flipside, they were limited with the number of people they could match him up with. Sticking him in with Shane Carwin or Junior dos Santos would all but guarantee a knock out, but those fights would never be sanctioned for obvious reasons. James McSweeney was their first choice, but he's had issues with a broken hand since the TUF finale and wouldn't have been ready in time.

     

    So essentially they are stuck with matching him up against equally poor/inexperienced fighters (Alexander/Mitrione) which as we saw produces awful fights that nobody wants to pay for.

     

    People will watch a guy like Kimbo on TV because he's charismatic...but it's a whole different ballgame when you're asking folks to shell out $50 for a PPV. Did you pay for UFC 113? If so, did you do so purely to see Kimbo? Very few people did, and that's part of the problem; when you're shelling out that kind of money, you want to see fighters who can fight...not worn out, washed up has-beens and never-was's gassing out and limping around on arthritic knees.

     

    I got to chat with the UFC's UK President a while back and I asked if we'd ever see Kimbo in the UK (they were planning a 'Fight Night' card in the UK at the time)...he said that he didn't see Kimbo lasting past his first loss for one simple reason. Joe Silva has a rule...if he doesn't think you can beat at least one fighter in your weight class, you get cut on a loss. That's exactly the position Kimbo was in. He turned down a fight with James Toney, so there was nobody left.

     

     

     

    Because they are on a completely different level experience and ability wise. Guys with few pro fights get special consideration anyway, but in Kimbo's case, when compared to Roger's the disparity is huge.

     

    Look at Kimbo's record:

    L - Mitrione (1-0)

    W - Alexander (9-4-1)

    L - Petruzelli (9-4)

    W - Thompson (14-8)

    W - Abbott (9-14)

    W - Cantrell (10-10)

     

    Now look at Roger's last few fights...a great performance against Fedor, the best HW in the sport, a 22-second KO of Arlovski, former UFC champion who has a string of highly ranked fighters on his record, Abongo Humphrey (6-0) and Jon Murphy (6-2). He also knocked out James Thompson in the first round, a man who gave Slice an absolute beating.

     

    It doesn't matter how long Kimbo has been training...that's not a fair fight...of course, they could take it somewhere with no commission, or a very lax one, if they wanted to get it done.

     

    well if the card wasnt so good i would of paid for kimbo if i had it. actually i thought he could of won if mitrione didnt through any leg kicks and it was a complete stand up, i thought kimbo was stronger untill the day of the fight when someone point out to me how crazy mitrione was. call me crazy but i like kimbo a lot and i thought he looked great the day of the fight, he was probably in the best shape of his life. rogers does have a better record but i still think he's just another stand up fighter but hopefully he rounds his game up more.

     

    Defences. The linear title was held by Couture, which Brock won from him. He then defended his heavyweight title against Mir, unifying the interim belt in the process. Against Carwin, he'll be defending the linear heavyweight title a second time, as well as unifying the interim belt (if he wins).

     

    If Carwin wins, it would be a defence of the interim title only. His first defence of the heavyweight title would be his next fight.

     

    This nonsense is exactly why interim belts shouldn't be created :-p

     

    actually i like the interim titles and im sure it helps with sells and builds of fights better its the same thing as saying who's the #1 contender

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    i know brett rogers would hopefully destroy kimbo or any other legit mma fighter that loves to stand toe to toe. i also agree u cant bild someone around beating kimbo, kimbo is a joke if u compare him to any mma artist. but thats not the way i look at it i want to see kimbo knock someone out or be knocked out no matter who it is. its just something about kimbo that makes me love his fights even when he gets destroyed by a nobody. if i was ufc i would of used him more just to please the fans there going to get an excited knock out one way or another. even when kimbo got knocked out with the jab i was excited. also y wouldn't it be sanctioned if kimbo fought rogers? kimbo's been training for long enough imo and he's tooken some beatings before i think he can defend himself good enough now to know when to lay down and stay down.

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    speaking of firings kimbo got fired as well. i like the guy and really thinks is improved but yea hes not going to get good enough to win enough everyone knows his tatics. though im not sure if it was a smart move people love fist fights, and kimbo could of gave that. he has a big enough following, even with him losing i still want to watch his next fight. he's not going to headline any ufc fight but hes a great undercard imo. i know strikeforce is going to pick him up who doesnt want to see a brett rogers vs kimbo slice fight? though i would of been liked to seen kimbo vs paul buentello atleast before he left.

    The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

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    oh man i can not wait to be able to see tna and raw tonight! is anyone else anse? i havent been this excited sinces the 90's when nwo started up and wwe has dx and the hart foundation. does anyone actually knows whos all showing up with hogan tonight? i've read so many rumors like the nasty boys, rvd, and ken kennedy its crazy. i dont mind hogan bringing in older guys for a few on and off story lines but to really build them up i'd hate it. does anyone know if wwe is actually going to go with bret vs vince at wreslemania?i also heard wwe is still trying to get the rock back which imo is stupid i hated him since he left wrestling even though i enjoy his movies but hes gone and done with wrestling...

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    I just have one question to ask......

     

    How much are they paying certain stars like Matt Morgan and Samoa Joe to praise Hogan?

     

    not sure how much does a hammer cost to break the glass hogans bringing? im really excited about hogan coming but then again im upset because i know a lot of guys r going to lose air time and i really hope its not the knockouts

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    LOL. I am serious. My mrs is the best chick ever. She supports whatever sports teams I like, if I want to watch wrestling she'll watch it too... very easy going. But yes, if there's someone she doesn't know she's gonna be busting my chops asking a lot of questions.

     

     

     

    Is it becoming obvious? :eek::eek::eek: Believe it or not, outside of these boards these days I find myself very uninterested in professional wrestling. But the WCW thing... it just reminds me of finishing high school where a heap of us were so into Sting fighting off the nWo ... it was the shizzle. We even had in class tipping competitions on Pay-Per-Views. Where I came from, we didn't have 'cable', we had two national broadcast channels and the only wrestling they picked up was WCW Monday Nitro and the Pay-Per-Views (for free), so there was no alternatives. So it became that you either loved rugby union or you loved WCW.

     

    u was on sting's side :eek: i was cheering for nwo almost the whole time lol till the end i stopped watching it. wow im kinda surprised u guys got only 2 channels but hey atleast u got the ppv free lol i've heard of small towns but wow only 2 channels is mind boggling. i've been in the woods where u a least got like 4 regular channels they might of been almost all news channels but at least there was 4 lol

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    Major difference, Nedew.

     

    High jump don't make money. Football does.

     

    When I was doing track, the Cross Country team was treated like second class citizens. The other teams (high jump, broad jump, shot put, etc) were even lower than them. It was the short distancers that got to say 'I'm on the track team' even down to merchandising. Our sweat suits said 'Track Team' while the Cross Country (basically long distance track) got 'Cross Country' on theirs and the others got their specific niche of the team on their suits. That was only because short distances (sprinters, in common parlance) were the "sexier" events. Heck, the bowling team only got funding because several of the football, basketball, and baseball team players were on it (and the "meets" were often used as 'team building exercises' by the coaches).

     

    Sad but it's the reality in many places here. If a sport doesn't support itself, it doesn't make itself immune to being cut. The same can be said for music programs here (which is why VH1's Save the Music Foundation was formed).

     

    On topic: Mick is probably the only person on TNA's roster that has any appeal to mainstream entertainment outlets. Unless there's another multi-time World champion AND multi-time New York Times bestselling author on the payroll. If not for his recent issues, Kurt Angle could've (and might still be able to for London) gotten some press commentating Olympic wrestling events. Granted, it wouldn't be in prime time (Olympic and Greco-Roman wrestling aren't "sexy" after all) but it would garner some buzz.

     

    man u hit it right on the button both things lol but hey not everyone is good as mick is on the mic i think him and the rock is true comedians if they wanted to be they could make it in that business.

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    Your schools might be underfunded, but all you need for high jump is 3 poles! Basically a mini version of your field goals for American football. You sure you didn't just miss your class that day? :p

     

    ha, lol i wished they had a class like that i probably wouldn't of joined i was to busy playing fùtbol (soccer), swimming, track (did that for like 2 months and quit) and i tried cross country (run for like 2 1/2 miles) im sure there wasnt anything i was missing lol. my school didnt even have a real field to play on or practice till after i left but its still not actual size to play for competition. surprise no ones as excited as i am about black machismo open legends challenge....i also dont see y everyone says tna isn't entertaining i like almost every segment i usually watch almost all the segments and i barley skip any matches, out of that ppv only match i skipped was the lashley match... i think tna has some great segments and characters i actually miss a few like sharkboy and daniels character the spicy dude (forgot the name again lol im bad with names). i actually liked eric young more when he was acting like super eric now he just seems a lil dull to me but i still watch his segments atleast tna is trying to give people pushs and not shove them down r throat like wwe did with cena...i really cant remember the last time i watched a wwe match or even watched a whole show with out skipping or flipping the channel, to me tna has everything.

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    I wasn't saying it in a negative way, or to sound superior. I'm genuinely surprised that the 'Fosbury Flop' isn't a thing that people automatically know. Then again, I'm British, so I probably went through a vastly different curriculum than most folks in the world.

     

    Also not trying to take anything away from AJ either. He's a physical freak. However... I think I could probably do it. I'm no gymnast. I haven't flopped for several years. I'm not even particularly tall. Still, give me a couple of goes practice and I reckon I could clear those ropes. Could I land properly? Probably not. Could I do it without hurting Joe & Daniels? Perhaps not. Could I do it in the middle of a wrestling match? Oh God no. Never said I could.

     

    AJ is awesome, it just makes me chuckle to see folks this excited about such an 'exotic' move. Not just you, but I've been on other forums that were completely marking out.

     

    'Fosbury Flop'? Let's stop giving it a fancy name, it's a freakin' high jump :p I am seriously amazed if American schools don't do High Jump.

     

    thats because american schools dont have enough money, its a shame that most countrys have better stuff then us just look at chine those kids r way smarter then i am and their peobably learning stuff i learn in 12th grade (last year of high school) at grade 6 (middle school for us) its sucks i really hated being in school i always felt smarter then most kids i didnt even try i slept for most of every class i only struggled in english as u guys can probably tell from the way i type. u.s. schools r seriously in need for better things i really dont get it we got tobacco taxs and lottery and still nothing. well to get back on the subject i cant wait for this thursday i wonder who machismos facing....i hope its jake the snake roberts so he can call him snake man again lol or how about bird man ko ko beware!

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    Melissa was Awesome Kong's manager, but she's also Alissa Flash. She's doing fine with her current gimmick. I just don't like the direction they are taking The Beautiful People. None of those three are good on the mic IMO. Sorry about that kinda-rant! :D

     

    erm, rod? Melissa = Alissa Flash = Raisha Saeed :) She was working twice a show for some time now (often playing jobber as Alissa Flash).

     

    lol sorry like i said guys i never looked her up to actually see her face i thought she was going to be stuck in that gimmick a lot longer to even care to see her face. well shes awesome and i still think she could fit in with the gimmick she has now yea she might not be a tbp in looks but i could see the gimmick working with tbs.

     

    You should check out the Summer Olympics. It'll blow you mind.

     

    I'm half joking. It did look really cool. I'm just surprised anyone can find it that impressive as I was taught how to do that in High School. I'm guessing it wasn't a standard technique taught all around the globe though.

     

    what school u from? us ohio people dont get privileged with things like that my first year of high school was the first time they had a soccer team and a swim team so just to give u an example lol. so ur a gymnast? well id still like to see u try that jump over the ring ropes and take some guy out with out hurting him or u now thats whats impressive besides the fact the shooting stars r hard enough to do let alone right over a ring rope with just jumping. now u can do that i'd be even more impressed ;). maybe since u know how to do it ur not looking at everything everyone else is looking at, just think how long they was already wrestling and possible how slippery that mat could of been from everyones sweat and for him to hit it perfect like that without getting hurt is amazing if i was still a lil kid i would of flipped seeing that...

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    The "Shooting Star" that AJ did was a Fosbury Flop. It's not a wacky name for a cool move, but rather the technical term for how high jumpers clear the bar in modern athletics. It's so named because it was popularised and perfected by Dick Fosbury in 1968.

     

    The rest of the show was fun. Nigel needs to work on his kick outs. They look really weak. The finish of Beer Money/British Invasion/MCMG just made me not want to watch TNA ever again. Really fun match spoiled by a ridiculous ending involving two characters I have no interest in seeing.

    thanks thats a kick ash move thats only my 2nd time seeing it.

    Yeah only naming him Hulk instead of the full name could be a set up for someone else. Tara vs. ODB hasn't been done for the title as a true feud yet though there was just some tension going into the BFG three way. I agree that Kong still should have gone over though and Steiner winning was weird but it gives extra legs to the feud so did 3D and Rhino winning which was the other surprise imho plus that it wasn't a streetfight as semi advertised.

    yea tara and odb hasnt fued for the title but its still a face vs face but i think their turning odb for this, but i really think kong got screwed they should of had kong win beat odb and then either had a 3 way match for the title or a rematch with tara but now we might see it reversed hopefully tara wins and feuds in a 3 way or with kong again

    Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.

     

    tbp wasnt bad until lve showed up i usually dont mind crappy wrestlers long as they have something going for them they could do in the ring or on the mic but imo she has nothing i dont even think she looks that good imo shes the ugliest out of all tbp. i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back

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    just finished watching the show myself today. i thought it was great i skipped a few spots like the lashley match. though i was shocked from my predictions of the winners i really cant believe they had stiener beat lashley with a freaking steel pole was very lame. im a lil confussed that kong lost, for one odb has acted like she was turning heel and then stayed face (she was attacking tara a lil if u remember) which is fine with me but they built kong up so much to lose to tara which is what i dont understand y have another odb vs tara fued? dont get me wrong i love tara but we havent seen a odb vs kong match in a while and it will be the first one with odb being the champ. im also surprised there was no interferences or dq's i really though kim was going to attack tara or the mystery guy attack aj. the angle match was freaking awesome it was up there with one of angles best matches and tnas best matches imo. did anyone catch the name of the moved aj did the shooting star to the outside, the announcers called it something it was great though i think it was one of the best spots on the match. does anyone else feel like this kevin nash thing is a set up? i really dont think hogans going to ally himself with nash again right off the bat....
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