Tournaments

[Jacko00]

Okay this is my idea/suggestion For your company to have the option of holding a tournament and have the option of holding it with another company or even as an open invitational to any company as long as you have a working agreement with them.

[Capelli King]

[QUOTE=Jacko00;220171]Okay this is my idea/suggestion For your company to have the option of holding a tournament and have the option of holding it with another company or even as an open invitational to any company as long as you have a working agreement with them.[/QUOTE] An interesting idea. Would be great to have such a feature. Especially since UFC has proposed a similar format with Pride. Something like a world final. Yeah i would really like to see such a feature. I already am visualising the prospect!

[Sensai of Mattitude]

On another note, it will be interesting to see how tournements are handled in WMMA, if you think about it. Since MMA fights aren't scripted, it'll be interesting to see whether there's anyway for us to be able to hold a tournament all on one show, or whether each round will have to take place at a different time.

[Jorge_JBR]

Well, both have happened before, correct?

[Capelli King]

Tournaments in what ever format would be interesting. The more options available the better. I think it will be more difficult to run a tournament format with another promotion if it will run over several shows. I will mean, that if you have several such tournament's with one promotion, and each one lets say runs over 3-4 shows, you could end up having 1/2 the year, virtually joint run with another promotion. Actually that is an interesting idea, because you could lets say, buy out a smaller competitor, send down a few fighters there to bulk them up, then run a series of tournaments, with them to give them more media exposure, then withi time you will have a fully running profitable d-league. Maybe a bit ambitious, but i still like the idea.

[ACCBiggz]

[QUOTE=Jorge_JBR;220220]Well, both have happened before, correct?[/QUOTE] The problem still comes in form of the Athletic Commissions and where you are in the world, and if you'd still abide by unified rules. A lot of questions and ideas like this will be dictated by that.

[syndicate]

one night tournaments happen still in mma... you just have to find a location and a promotion that allows it to happen most big companies like pride and k-1 have the tournament format a lot dif... pride will have a 16 man grand prix and they will do it over 3 shows... with the semi finals and finals on the same night... as for k-1 they have the first and second round of the tournament on the same night then do the finals on a later date they dont do it because of a athletic commission... they do it because they can make more money over 3 ppv's but... nsac wont let a fighter fight 2 times in one month so thats why the ufc wont do tournaments anymore this is why the game should have indian reservations because they are always having mma events in states that outlaw mma

[falling_star]

[QUOTE=syndicate;220321]this is why the game should have indian reservations because they are always having mma events in states that outlaw mma[/QUOTE] The game world could even contain a promotion that operates entirely out of Indian Casinos. :D

[Capelli King]

I know that in the real world , the athletic comission dictates the tournament, match format and rules, but even if there is an athletic comission added to the game, i hope that it will not limit what we will be or won't be allowed to do. As mentioned earlier, UFC do not have tournaments, because the athletic comission does not allow 2 fights in one month! If i would be allowed to use foul language i would right now! I think we should be allowed to book how we wish either without an athletic comission or with them giving us vertual freedom in our decisions.

[Adam Ryland]

[QUOTE=Capelli King;220588]I know that in the real world , the athletic comission dictates the tournament, match format and rules, but even if there is an athletic comission added to the game, i hope that it will not limit what we will be or won't be allowed to do. As mentioned earlier, UFC do not have tournaments, because the athletic comission does not allow 2 fights in one month! If i would be allowed to use foul language i would right now! I think we should be allowed to book how we wish either without an athletic comission or with them giving us vertual freedom in our decisions.[/QUOTE] So basically, you don't want a simulator, you want a fantasy game?

[Capelli King]

[QUOTE=Adam Ryland;220596]So basically, you don't want a simulator, you want a fantasy game?[/QUOTE] So Adam, that is a hint! In the new game we will have "athletic commisions"! Athletic comissions change their rules anyway. No one knows what the rules and regulatons will be in 10 years anyway. So unless we will have an athletic comission which will be different from region to region and country to country, and unless rules will change from time to time, like in real life, then it will make sense to have an option to regulate rules. What i want is a good MMA simulator. I like to have as options. The more the better. OOTP is a great example of a simulator, which you have huge amounts of options in how the game is run. Our game will be based on a "fantasy" universe anyway. Sorry if i seemed inpolite in my previous post.

[ACCBiggz]

And the fact all I said was... [QUOTE]The problem still comes in form of the [B]Athletic Commissions and where you are in the world, and if you'd still abide by unified rules.[/B] A lot of questions and ideas like [B]this will be dictated by that.[/B][/QUOTE] I don't say tourny's are a bad idea, but clearly if you are running a UFC event or PRIDE event now, then it isn't going to be doable. Other places is could. A lot of these questions about rules, tournys, and other things of that nature will be dictated by what type of effect that Athletic Commissions have in the game. If none, then no problems, if like the real world... becuase this is a simulator....then you will run in to some problems trying to pull this off. [QUOTE]Athletic comissions change their rules anyway. No one knows what the rules and regulatons will be in 10 years anyway.[/QUOTE] However, I'll go on record now saying that the NSAC, which is pretty much what determines everyone elses, will never allow tourny's in the one night format, or a format that has people fighting in one night again. The rules that may be looked at and changed would be things like knees on the ground, elbows on the ground, etc. But history shows that the NSAC is very steadfast in their decisions.

[Jacko00]

The problem could be fixed by either holding it in countrys that allow it or having the tournament go on for over a year, though fans may get bored by time the final arrives.

[PoisonedSuperman]

If their are going to be tourny's will their be a tourny contract?

[ACCBiggz]

[QUOTE=Jacko00;220787]The problem could be fixed by either holding it in countrys that allow it or having the tournament go on for over a year, though fans may get bored by time the final arrives.[/QUOTE] Which is why I said it depends on where you are in the world. [QUOTE]having the tournament go on for over a year, though fans may get bored by time the final arrives.[/QUOTE] Depends on the match-up. I'm sure Wanderlei/Cro Cop, Barnett/Cro Cop, and others would have drawn big over a course of time as well. So with normal matches it depends on the fighters I think.

[Ghostface]

[QUOTE=ACCBiggz;220811] Depends on the match-up. I'm sure Wanderlei/Cro Cop, Barnett/Cro Cop, and others would have drawn big over a course of time as well. So with normal matches it depends on the fighters I think.[/QUOTE] Indeed, the PRIDE GP tourny's seem to draw good numbers and they always last a few months at least.

[thedraem41]

Interpromotional fights and tournaments would be a great addition to the game.

[Cro_Cop45]

[QUOTE=Ghostface;222483]Indeed, the PRIDE GP tourny's seem to draw good numbers and they always last a few months at least.[/QUOTE] Time in a tad misleading. While it is spread out over 3-4 months, it really is only 3 shows. One for the first round, second for the quarter finals, and the last for the semis and finals

[kadekash1983]

[QUOTE=Capelli King;220269]Tournaments in what ever format would be interesting. The more options available the better. I think it will be more difficult to run a tournament format with another promotion if it will run over several shows. I will mean, that if you have several such tournament's with one promotion, and each one lets say runs over 3-4 shows, you could end up having 1/2 the year, virtually joint run with another promotion. Actually that is an interesting idea, because you could lets say, buy out a smaller competitor, send down a few fighters there to bulk them up, then run a series of tournaments, with them to give them more media exposure, then withi time you will have a fully running profitable d-league. Maybe a bit ambitious, but i still like the idea.[/QUOTE] UFC already does this. They bought out World Extreme Cage Fighting and have sent Nick Diaz and Mark Hominick down as well as others Im sure.

[Capelli King]

[QUOTE=kadekash1983;223675]UFC already does this. They bought out World Extreme Cage Fighting and have sent Nick Diaz and Mark Hominick down as well as others Im sure.[/QUOTE] That is good to hear. I really hope to see the tournament feature, especially the interpromotional tournament idea is great.

[Romdawg88]

[QUOTE=kadekash1983;223675]UFC already does this. They bought out World Extreme Cage Fighting and have sent Nick Diaz and Mark Hominick down as well as others Im sure.[/QUOTE] Nick Diaz isn't a part of WEC. He has a contract with PRIDE and Elite XC.

[y2trav]

[QUOTE=Adam Ryland;220596]So basically, you don't want a simulator, you want a fantasy game?[/QUOTE] i wouldnt go so far as to say that would make a fantasy game. IRL, america is pretty much the only country regulated by athletic commissions. so if he wanted to run a promotion like he said, he could always run one out of japan or brasil. or is the plan in the game to have commissions EVERYWHERE?

[Adam Ryland]

[QUOTE=y2trav;224235]or is the plan in the game to have commissions EVERYWHERE?[/QUOTE] Why would it? :confused:

[y2trav]

i dunno, i didnt think that it did, just curious b/c of the fantasy reaction. i would hope not though...we all love some lawless brasilian bare knuckle vale-tudo :cool:

[Capelli King]

[QUOTE=y2trav;224264]i dunno, i didnt think that it did, just curious b/c of the fantasy reaction. i would hope not though...we all love some lawless brasilian bare knuckle vale-tudo :cool:[/QUOTE] I have to second that one!!!