syndicate Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 this will be in the game right? it would be kinda stupid to always book the events the night of the event i mean it's not pro wrestling people know what they are going to go see when they buy tickets... sure some fighters get hurt before the event or test positive for some drugs so they wont be in the card a day or two before the event... so sometimes they take out a fighter and replace him with somebody else a couple of days before the fight other then those reasons events are always booked ahead of time and promoted before it happens
Jorge_JBR Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 I would assume it would be. It wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't.
syndicate Posted April 15, 2007 Author Posted April 15, 2007 [QUOTE=Jorge_JBR;224379]I would assume it would be. It wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't.[/QUOTE] well i would assume... but you can never be sure
Guest loves2spooge Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 it would have to be because thats the reason people buy the tickets i know i wouldnt buy a ticket or watch it if i didnt know what was going to be on the card i like to see a few big names are fighting beforehand
asdfx3 Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 I wonder if you can do PRIDE style advanced booking where you only announce a list of fighters that will be on the card and not who's fighting who.
Jasx12 Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 You can do all of those in TEW so I'm sure you can here. It would be like: Ortiz v. TBA Liddell v. TBA You can have them fight each other , but it still covers the advanced booking.
Jorge_JBR Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 [QUOTE=Jasx12;224566]You can do all of those in TEW so I'm sure you can here. It would be like: Ortiz v. TBA Liddell v. TBA You can have them fight each other , but it still covers the advanced booking.[/QUOTE] If you had Ortiz vs. TBA, and Liddell vs. TBA, then booked Ortiz vs. Liddell, it would only take care of Ortiz vs. TBA. Because Liddell has to be side one of his match.
thedraem41 Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 Actually I think advanced booking is more important in this game than it would be in TEW. In MMA they do a great job promoting upcoming fights, so you would probably have to have a whole card booked weeks before it happened. So the fighters could train, it could be promoted, the media could write about it, etc.
toddthebod Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 [QUOTE=thedraem41;225101]Actually I think advanced booking is more important in this game than it would be in TEW. In MMA they do a great job promoting upcoming fights, so you would probably have to have a whole card booked weeks before it happened. So the fighters could train, it could be promoted, the media could write about it, etc.[/QUOTE] I don't think that you should have to announce the whole card on the advanced booking screen. The UFC doesn't show all of it's fights and truthfully if you don't get on the internet much you wouldn't know much of the card other then what they show. PRIDE on the other hand, shows the whole card. Advanced booking should and will be in the game. No worries!
thug saint oga Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 [QUOTE=Jorge_JBR;224719]If you had Ortiz vs. TBA, and Liddell vs. TBA, then booked Ortiz vs. Liddell, it would only take care of Ortiz vs. TBA. Because Liddell has to be side one of his match.[/QUOTE] it doesn't work that way in tew2007. if i have two guys in a match (Wrestler A vs. Wrestler B) i can advanced book Wrestler A vs. TBA and Wrestler B vs. TBA. i do it all the time and i never recieve an advanced booking complaint or penalty.......
alden Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 i think the "main card" should be advance booked like they do in ufc and then they put on "under card" matches.......thier might be one or two matches that might not be advertised or their might be matched after the main show incase the matches end quick. They usally promote maybe two or three big matches.
thedraem41 Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=toddthebod;225257]I don't think that you should have to announce the whole card on the advanced booking screen. The UFC doesn't show all of it's fights and truthfully if you don't get on the internet much you wouldn't know much of the card other then what they show. PRIDE on the other hand, shows the whole card. Advanced booking should and will be in the game. No worries![/QUOTE] If the fighters don't know when they fight how would they cut weight in time for the weigh in and all of that. It wouldn't look to good if it was done in an instant. So there should be a way of telling the fighters when they fight.
alden Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 thier is a diffrence between a promotion telling somone they are fighting somone and the promotion giving away the card....i don't think anyone would take a fight with no notice.....
y2trav Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 [QUOTE=toddthebod;225257]I don't think that you should have to announce the whole card on the advanced booking screen. The UFC doesn't show all of it's fights and truthfully if you don't get on the internet much you wouldn't know much of the card other then what they show. PRIDE on the other hand, shows the whole card. Advanced booking should and will be in the game. No worries![/QUOTE] the ufc DOES tell you the whole card, WELL in advance...they even tell you which ones will and wont be shown.
alden Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Yah, they tell you what one's will be shown live....but don't have also have one or two "undercard" fights that are not advertised? I am not one hundred percent on this one but i always thought they did to fill out the show....kind of like if we have time we will have thease many fights.....if there is more time then we will have more fights kind of thing?
y2trav Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 most ufc cards there are about 8-9 fights, 3-4 of those happen before the show goes live, and if they are running quick(ko's or subs) then they will show a taped fight from earlier in the night. but you always know whos on the cards.
asdfx3 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 The undercard fights are still announced (you can find a full fight card on the UFC website), but because they don't guarantee you'll see them on PPV they don't advertise them in commercials or posters.
toddthebod Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 [QUOTE=y2trav;225587]the ufc DOES tell you the whole card, WELL in advance...they even tell you which ones will and wont be shown.[/QUOTE] Hence why I said that if you don't have the internet you won't know all the fights on the card because the UFC doesn't tell you on every PPV the previous results and such. Please read fully before making your response.
y2trav Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 but were talking about advance booking, and thats exactly what they do. nothing is a suprise, even if someone doesnt make weight or gets hurt, they post it on their website right away. most people dont buy ppvs just know the 3 fighters they advert on tv. whether you have to go on the internet or not, the card is booked in its entirety.
toddthebod Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 Maybe I'm a little off here but I was extrememly successful with TEW with only advance booking my big matches and not every match. I think that you should only have to advance book the fights that have a chance to make the ppv and just schedule the other fights. There's nothing wrong with having an advanced booking segment then have a scheduled card. The other fights won't make the ppv and most of the time, people don't care about the undercards. You shouldn't lose people's interest in the PPV or fight card because you have two nobody's fighting each other.
y2trav Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 most of the tims its the "nobodies" that put on the best fights. theres been plenty of cards i that bought hoping to see one of the undercard fights that wernt supposed to air. jeremy horns last couple of ufc fightws are examples of this.
thedraem41 Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 [QUOTE=toddthebod;225810]Maybe I'm a little off here but I was extrememly successful with TEW with only advance booking my big matches and not every match. I think that you should only have to advance book the fights that have a chance to make the ppv and just schedule the other fights. There's nothing wrong with having an advanced booking segment then have a scheduled card. The other fights won't make the ppv and most of the time, people don't care about the undercards. You shouldn't lose people's interest in the PPV or fight card because you have two nobody's fighting each other.[/QUOTE] That's why the system should not work like that, take wrestling in NJPW. They announce all their matches well before the shows, and they use that to promote in the area and such. It doesn't cause people to loose interest because some young lions are on the show. What I'm saying is that you make the matches, and at the very least inform your fighters a month before so they can begin training. Sometimes things are scheulded longer than that before the fight. Even with what you're saying the fight card is announced, so it is advanced booked. Internet or no internet. Not much is really a surprise if you take the time to look.
toddthebod Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 I've never once said that you shouldn't inform the fighters. I think that everyone has missed my point in this. MMA isn't wrestling. People will buy PPV's because of 1 or 2 fights. Advanced booking deals with what you put out to the potential buying public about your upcoming show. I'm not saying that some of the undercard fights aren't exciting by any means. I'm just saying that you shouldn't have to market every single fight to the public. Maybe I haven't been clear or something but I think that you should have the fights scheduled but shouldn't have to market every single fight on the card. Case in point..Roger Huerta had an amazing fight on the last card but where was it in the commercial? No where to be found because the majority of people didn't buy the card for Roger Huerta. They bought it for GSP vs Serra, Sanchez vs Koscheck and such. Hopefully, this explains my point of view. It's not the majority but something to consider.
y2trav Posted April 19, 2007 Posted April 19, 2007 i was thinking aboutyour point of view and this is what i figure....you want to be able to pick what fights to market. thats a whole different thing. the way id do it is book a card in its entirety, then under marketing or publicity or somehting like that, pick maybe 3 fights to advert on tv. but the whole card is still done well in advance, but you pick the selling points.
asdfx3 Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 There should be slider for how much you want to advertise each fight (or maybe even just individual fighters, like the fact that they hype the fact that Arlovski is fighting at UFC 70 but not his opponent Werdum). You can give each fight in a 10 fight card equal time and prominence (might be good for smaller orgs that lack real super-fights), or you can select only a handful (like in larger orgs that rely on stars bringing in the cash). However, there should be a penalty for fights that are hyped up but not seen on TV/PPV.
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