D16NJD16 Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 This must be a part of the game im not understanding. I have Vince McMahon with an "Authority Figure" push in my game. His momentum started at B+. He is in one to two segments, angles only, each show, all of them rated A to A+. His momentum has declined all the way down to D-. What am I doing wrong here?
Remianen Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Did you get any notes that he was used too much? I've always equated momentum to be 'how much the fans want to see' the worker in question (second to push, of course). Fans will want to see the person who is "red hot" (i.e. high momentum) while they probably wouldn't want to see the JTTS (i.e. low momentum).
D16NJD16 Posted April 15, 2007 Author Posted April 15, 2007 I think I have gotten that once, twice tops. I still don't think that should equate to someone who's in a top storyline and getting consistant A's being nearly rock bottom in momentum. Is that really how the game works or am i doing something wrong?
Remianen Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 *shrug* If the fans are sick of seeing a worker, their momentum should reflect that IMO. Storyline or not, I didn't pay to see "authority figure_004". I paid to see . Like, I rarely miss a SHIMMER show but I don't fly to Chicago to see Dave Prazak. Similarly, if I'm going to a WWE show, it's not to see Vincent Kennedy McMahon. Makes perfect sense to me.
D16NJD16 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Posted April 16, 2007 Im still not getting the 'sick of seeing a worker just because they are an authority figure' argument your giving. So there is no reward for using Authority Figures well in storylines and angles? Has no Authority Figure in wrestling history ever picked up decent 'momentum'? That arguements ridiculous. Im sure theres a better explanation for this, I just dont know what it is, but it cant be that.
Mr T Jobs To Me Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Is Vince being made to look like a jobber in these segments? For example, if you had a segment where Vince got splashed through a buffet table by Viscera, fans would then say... I don't know what they'd say but odds are that wouldn't be a segment that's very good for Vince.
stupifY_me Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 [QUOTE=Mr T Jobs To Me;224755]Is Vince being made to look like a jobber in these segments? For example, if you had a segment where Vince got splashed through a buffet table by Viscera, fans would then say... I don't know what they'd say but odds are that wouldn't be a segment that's very good for Vince.[/QUOTE] In reality it would be great for the fans though lol
Remianen Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 [QUOTE=D16NJD16;224721]Im still not getting the 'sick of seeing a worker just because they are an authority figure' argument your giving. So there is no reward for using Authority Figures well in storylines and angles? Has no Authority Figure in wrestling history ever picked up decent 'momentum'? That arguements ridiculous. Im sure theres a better explanation for this, I just dont know what it is, but it cant be that.[/QUOTE] Apparently there are a lot of things about the game you don't agree with, and that's fine. But the Authority Figure push isn't one made for people you want to use for half (or even a quarter) of your show. Manager, maybe. Authority Figure, I doubt it. Just like you can't book an opener in a 60 minute Iron Man match without getting negative feedback ("Opener was used far too much"), the same goes for the non-wrestling positions. Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant, really. It's not unfathomable to think there would be a momentum penalty for overusing a worker. It's not an 'argument' per se, since I've never overused my authority figures so I don't know if that's the answer. But like I said, it makes sense that there would be a tangible penalty for overusing a worker. I'm not talking about workers gaining momentum (that wasn't your initial beef, after all). I was offering a possible reason why an authority figure would LOSE momentum.
stupifY_me Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 [QUOTE=Remianen;224761]Apparently there are a lot of things about the game you don't agree with, and that's fine. But the Authority Figure push isn't one made for people you want to use for half (or even a quarter) of your show. Manager, maybe. Authority Figure, I doubt it. Just like you can't book an opener in a 60 minute Iron Man match without getting negative feedback ("Opener was used far too much"), the same goes for the non-wrestling positions. Whether you buy it or not is irrelevant, really. It's not unfathomable to think there would be a momentum penalty for overusing a worker. It's not an 'argument' per se, since I've never overused my authority figures so I don't know if that's the answer. But like I said, it makes sense that there would be a tangible penalty for overusing a worker. I'm not talking about workers gaining momentum (that wasn't your initial beef, after all). I was offering a possible reason why an authority figure would LOSE momentum.[/QUOTE] I actually see where both of you are coming from. It makes complete sense that if someone is over used they should indeed lose momentum, BUT the problem is that some pushes get accused of being over used far to easy. Personally I love to play as realisticly as possible, but I also play to do good. With some things in the game those two things tend to clash like with authority figures. Ultimately it's unrealistic to never use one, but I find that it is to your benefit to never use one. You are simply better off ignoring them. When I use Authority figures I usually get B shows with out them I get A shows sometimes almost always B+ because I don't get dragged down segment ratings or over use of Authority Figure.
D16NJD16 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Posted April 17, 2007 I don't think its that odd to expect that if a feature is in the game to think that you can get good results from it if you have success with it. Im just asking the way isn't what I'm doing, what exactly is it?
stupifY_me Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 [QUOTE=D16NJD16;225047]I don't think its that odd to expect that if a feature is in the game to think that you can get good results from it if you have success with it. Im just asking the way isn't what I'm doing, what exactly is it?[/QUOTE] I agree there is nothing wrong with expecting this. The simple fact (at least from all the time I have played) is that Authority Figures hurt you in the game they don't help in anyway, and they are a waste. Which sucks
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