Damian Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Anybody think WWE are nuts on cutting some of these names?: Mark Jindrak Maven Shannon Moore Akio (James Yun - Jimmy Yang) Gangrel (Vampire Warrior aka David Heath) Billy Kidman Spike Dudley Mordecai (Kevin Fertig) Matt Morgan Charlie Haas Jackie Gayda Dawn Marie Marty Jannetty Kenzo Suzuki & Hiroko Bubba Ray Dudley D-Von Dudley Joy Giovanni I mean I'd cut most of them too, but not The 3 Dudleyz, Charlie Haas or Akio!? TNA will pounce on Bubba and D-Von and add another huge team to their division, are WWE purposely trying to hurt their product by cutting tag team specialists and tag teams, without replacing them first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt799 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The Dudleys had to be the worst release but the rest of those guys were just Velocity/Heat jobbers anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerguy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Two of my future ex-wives are gone. That sucks. I don't like how the WWE prefers to keep guys like Heidenreich, Snitsky and Tomko and gets rid of guys like Haas and Kidman who actually have skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvarez16 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 i wouldn't have released the dudleys or haas, but i the rest i would've released too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistaken Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I am probably terribly mislead, but all of these realease so soon after the success of one night stand, including the dudleys who would be pivital in an ecw relaunch. smacks of a way to relaunch the ecw as a seperate entity from the wwe. I mean with the E being public dirictly investing in such a risky product, but they could seed the new fed with investment capital, and provide them with tallent they are not using and at the same time cut costs. It all sounds like a low risk way to creat your own competion and then profit from both the competion and your competitors success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayps23 Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 [QUOTE=mistaken]I am probably terribly mislead, but all of these realease so soon after the success of one night stand, including the dudleys who would be pivital in an ecw relaunch. smacks of a way to relaunch the ecw as a seperate entity from the wwe. I mean with the E being public dirictly investing in such a risky product, but they could seed the new fed with investment capital, and provide them with tallent they are not using and at the same time cut costs. It all sounds like a low risk way to creat your own competion and then profit from both the competion and your competitors success.[/QUOTE] if that where to happen the ECW brand would kick the sht out of both raw and smackdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Actually, they didn't release/fire the main two Dudleys. Their contracts were up, and WWE decided not to resign them. Yes, they are huge names. Yes, TNA will snap them up. Yes, WWE has no concept of how a good tag-team division is vital to a wrestling promotion. However, the fans have killed the Dudleys. They can't do anything new. It's all "Get the tables, we wanna see the tables, etc". If you can't change or even tweak gimmicks, then you run out of ideas for the wrestler(s). Really, name me one thing they could do on either SD! or RAW. They already have held the titles so many times so who cares if they go get them again. There's no chance the fans will let them work singles matches. There's no tag team to really feud them with (granted that's WWE's fault). So, what could they do to justify the high price tag Bubba and D-Von would command? That one was actually a good call on WWE's call. However, cutting Haas and Kidman was dumb. Two guys that can actually wrestle. Kidman will end up in TNA's X division and win the title soon (after the 90 days). Haas, I am not too sure about as he is too big for the lower-weight divisions, but he's too small for the heavyweights. Now, if you can find a tag partner for him like he had with Sheldon, then he's a huge asset. However, he may want his wife (Jackie) to be in there with him so that's additional cost to hire him. However, I hope WWE gets what's coming to them by firing a pregnant Dawn Marie. That will be a nice lawsuit that will assuredly cost more than keeping her around for two or three more years would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbxpress Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 now i dont get it, waste a million to do a diva search that alot of people cringe at, and cut some (not all) first rate talent, tis dark times we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotrod Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Kidman may be dumb in more than 1 way his wife T.Wilson could walk when her deal up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennywanchizoate Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Hmm None of those releases are particularly surprising, since the WWE hasn't been able to market any of them effectively in the past several months. Vince has been systematically trimming his roster for at least a year now, and with the move of RAW to USA from Spike, along with a much smaller roster, may suggest the end of the brand split. Probably not, but hey, stranger things have happened KennyWan Chizoate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corruption Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 I love how people say "but they have talent, why are they gone?" because it's sports-entertainment. Talent gets you nowhere without charisma and/or build. This is why Tomko and Heidenreich are still around. They seem like wrestlers. You ask a none-fan what a wrestler should be they'll say a big guy. Who will you bet on winning a real fight, a talented cruiserweight, or a sloppy 7'0" monster? They are trying to put their product over as wrestling used to be, big guys going at it for entertainment. If you want talent wrestling go watch some ROH, this is the era of Sports Entertainment, but there are alternatives. Anyway, great news that ROH have signed Jimmy Yang, I've always liked the guy. Surprised about Jannetty being cut though, he was supposed to be working an angle with HBK. Edit: and as long as blind marks cheer during Diva Search segments, there will be a diva search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 I was shocked at the release of Jim Cornette though, if he goes to TNA, his well proven track record of developing talent and good booking could REALLY boost their product. Haas is back in JAPW. Moore and Kidman were backstage at TNA.. i can see a Hardy/Moore team against Dudleys and AMW there. I have to say WWE's style of entertainment sucks lately, they'd rather hold a concert and 90mins of ****, then stick a little of that little thing called wrestling in the end. But then I'm not hot on ROH either, it's too much wrestling and I find the product drags when watching a 30 minute match between two guys I don't care about, who're doing the same big "shock spots" that every Indy worker is doing now. I'm more into the TNA style, it's a Hybrid between WWE and ROH, great matches mixed with a little mic work, storylines and the odd big man here and there. I really hope the SpikeTV Deal works for them as TNA is becoming what WWE USED to be, whilst WWE is becoming what WCW was at the end... and thats from a die hard WWE fan for 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerguy Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 [QUOTE=Damian]I was shocked at the release of Jim Cornette though[/QUOTE] His behavior became too much of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 "Cornette was old-school which has no business being in the WWE of 2005." I could easily hear or read that statement from Johnny Ace himself. He isn't unlike many other management types in that he wants HIS people around him. Cornette, even though he could have had that job if he had wanted to live in Stamford, was a JR-guy. Ace would have gotten him fired somehow regardless of Cornette's legendary temper. What it boils down to is that WWE decided to side with the wrestlers who thought it was funny or a good idea to not take a wrestling match seriously. Cornette berated Mordechi for openly laughing while standing on the apron of a tag match. That got Jim a 6-week "vacation". Then, he comes back and a wrestling nobody decides it's funny to laugh, instead of being scared of, at the Boogyman (who is a horrible wrestler and has no business being on anything btw). Jim takes him to task for that, gets a few words thrown back at him, then smacks him a couple of times. So, wrestlers are now no different than the prima-donna athletes who get their coaches fired just because they want the player to play hard or be a team player. This is one of the reasons why the WWE blows right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 I agree, Jim was trying to turn these guys into professionals.. sure his temper got in the way, but if these guys can't be mature and work their job how they're supposed to.. get out the business. I can see where Jim is coming from, half these big guys can't wrestle for **** and Jim is being forced into making them stars, he does so and they act like schoolboys, so he treats them like one. WWE are firing the wrong guy here.. but they did that with Matt Hardy too. Vince has too many "yes men" which is why his product is garbage now. I sit back and watch my old WWE tapes from the attitude era and wish WWE was as good now as it was then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMAN Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Jim slapping them around is pretty funny, reminds me of went Holly mudhole stomped the hell out of that guy on Tough Enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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