Question to Adam/anyone: What would the product setting be for NWWL?

[Kobe1724]

So anyway, as great as T-Zone is it's missing some promotions AND I've been putting them in. But so now I'm making the NWWL (Naked Women's Wrestling League) and I just realized I have no idea what to make the product settings. My first thought was to make it Risque: 100, mainstream medium women's only promotion, T&A high and match intensity 0-10 and danger 0-10, and 60-40 split for matches and angles, regional level overness in the US and let the game sort out other countries. But the problem with those settings is that they still seem to place way too much stock into the wrestling matches themselves. Once I finished the NWWL promotion and added the workers into the game that Forlan had in there I booked some shows with the product settings above and in pretty much all of them the crowd was "all over _______ because they couldn't wrestle." So I figured okay, maybe it's because the matches aren't eye candy based and so I made them eye candy based matches instead (buck naked, bra and panties etc.). The crowd still hated that the girls couldn't wrestle. That doesn't make sense though, since the last thing an audience like this would care about was how great the wrestlers are. Soooo... I'm guessing my product settings are bad. But what should I change?

[Guest The Aussie]

Import BSC from the Cornellcerse and work from there.

[Kobe1724]

Honestly, looking at BSC it doesn't seem like it is supposed to be like NWWL at all.

[Dragonmack]

I would take BSC's product, but lower traditional from heavy to low , as traditional emphasizes in ring product. Also maybe go 50-50 match angle, or maybe even 40-60. To be fair, even though I haven't actually seen any of the NWWL matches, they do have some real female wrestlers that can actually put on a decent in ring performance, like Annie Social and April Hunter.

[shamelessposer]

Increasing your mainstream setting will take emphasis off of the in-ring product, but then you'll be borked anyway because so few of your workers will be over.

[Michael Wayne]

having seen NWWL, mainstream doesn't belong. They're more inclined to have Risque, and Cult as key features, with traditional being medium, with anything else being low or none. Think about who it's appealing to. The only noteable name in the company is the owner. Jimmy Hart is/was invloved, but that's pretty much it. NWWL isn't about talent, but since the emphasis is wrestling, and there's very few angles if at all, it's the only reason I'd say medium. The wrestling is awful, so the idea of it is to keep you entertained because they're naked. Any fans they have are small. As virtually nobody knows/cares about it. It pretty much operates under the same premise as ECW. I'd say 90% match ratio with the style name being "Nude Women's Wrestling". Matches should be short as most all of them have no talent. Low match intensity and danger.

[Moe Hunter]

90% matches? The DVDs I saw were about 60% matches, with ridiculously bad segments in between. They run it more like a sports show than a wrestling event. Cult definitely, Risque way up there just on the fact that they're naked. Comedyshould be Heavy as well IMO as even just in the competitors and managers names they've got corny puns galore. Oddly enough, as bad as it is overall, I was quite surprised to see a handful of well executed or more 'indy style' moves, as well as the announcers actually calling more moves than JR does in an average match.

[Michael Wayne]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;260553]90% matches? The DVDs I saw were about 60% matches, with ridiculously bad segments in between. They run it more like a sports show than a wrestling event. Cult definitely, Risque way up there just on the fact that they're naked. Comedyshould be Heavy as well IMO as even just in the competitors and managers names they've got corny puns galore. Oddly enough, as bad as it is overall, I was quite surprised to see a handful of well executed or more 'indy style' moves, as well as the announcers actually calling more moves than JR does in an average match.[/QUOTE] it's possible. I saw ppvs for them a while ago. Maybe but two... I couldn't remember how much time was spent on segments, I remember them being pretty bad, and overall not liking NWWL at all. I remember my initial interest being that Carmen Electra was involved and figured that if it was a nude wrestling promotion, there'd be a likelyhood we'd at least see her in skimpy attire. I was pretty disappointed to no only see the wrestling sucked, but that she was the only female on the show with clothes on and considering it was Carmen Electra, that was pretty lame.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=Kobe1724;260443]Honestly, looking at BSC it doesn't seem like it is supposed to be like NWWL at all.[/QUOTE] Still not getting it, eh? BSC is the closest to NWWL as you're gonna get in TEW. And Regional? NO WAY. Make them Local, Small at best. You have to remember that your product has to fit within the confines of the game engine or else it's not going to work. As said, NWWL's shows are not about wrestling in the TEW sense. Their entire purpose is the same as the strip club down the street, simple titillation. While they have had people who could wrestle (April Hunter, for example), those kinds of workers are the exception, not the rule. Michael Wayne's suggestion seems the most plausible to me. Problem is, with no mainstream to dumb down the product, the match intensity and danger might tend to be high-ish (as in, a bit higher than Sports Entertainment).

[Moe Hunter]

Which is funny because the intensity is about equal to eating a Dorito (as opposed to say, Luging). Keep in mind most of the workers will need extremely low stiffness (maybe give the announcers high stiffness as a joke!)

[flamebrain]

[QUOTE=Moe Hunter;260859](maybe give the announcers high stiffness as a joke!)[/QUOTE] BOOM BOOM! :)