Sugestion

[Jay Lethal]

Ok, this is probably impossible to make happen in te next game, as this would change the game's dinamic a lot, but I'd like to see some changes in the game, specially to change the way the indys are played. 1. First, all wrestlers should have an area (even though they are eligible to play in all of them). They could be for Great Lakes, Mid South, the East Coast, etc. This would make that, signing a wrestler from an area far from the promotion would cost to pay his airplane trip (if the areas are very far) or, the wrestler would have to make a long trip in his car, which would make him prefer to take local bookings (in that case, he will only accept do the trip if the other promotion has more prestige). This would make the game harder, but also more fun, has the booker will have to be carefull with the guys he brings from other areas. Guys without prestige, would have to win prestige in their local areas, and just then, promotions from other areas would be interested in book him. Also, it would make a lot hard to little promotions to make shows outside their area. 2. Signing wrestlers to a event A like a lot the new Availability Calendar freature, but what I'd really like, would be the booker to be able to sign wrestlers for an event. I mean, the open contract is not really a contract, it just means that the wrestler as accept to work for that company for that price, not that he will be in every show of the promotion! So, every promotion would inform his wrestlers and the audience, who will be, and who will not be in on or another show. This way, and using real world exemples from now on, if I am CHIKARA, I could sign Rhett Titus to my show, even though there is a ROH show in the same day, because ROH didn't sign Rhett Titus. This would change the game's dinamic a lot, as wrestlers would be able to work for a lot of promotions, without being mad because they lose against worst guys (they will understand it as a pay check and that they won't make their name in all promotions) and without wanting to end the contract because they are no used enough Also, to decide which promotion show to choose, the wrestler should not only to the promotions prestige, but also to their style, to the way he is booked in which one, and how he personally feels about the company. let's imagine that a wrestler as oferts for beeing in a IWA-MS show and in a CZW show. If he is a mat/chain wrestler for nature, even though both promotions are known for deathmatches and ultraviolence, that the IWA-MS product combines better with his style, and can even look to his past in both companies and see that he is a jobber in CZW and a midcarder in IWA-MS, and that in CZW he jobs to psycopaths and in IWA-MS he had some good matches with guys of his style that helped him develop. Also, if he look to the avancing booking, if one of the shows is making a great buzz and the other card is just normal, he will prefer the first, as probably more people will watch it. With this is also the event prestige. 3. Event Prestige Some wrestling events are prestige, to head comes off course, wrestlemania. Even if the card is the worst ever, there would be people buying it, just beacuse is wrestlemania (of course, if the show is bad, they'll lose prestige). My idea is, after every named show, prestige points will be given to said show and if the promotion decides to make another show with the same name the year after, then, there will be a very little extra hype from how good the first show was. If second show is also very good, the show starts to win his own prestige. A very good exemple from the real world is the Ted Petty Invitational tournament held by IWA-MS, which allways has extra fans watching for his own prestige, and not the IWA-MS prestige. The card itself is very diferent in this show, as the promotions books all the available talent, and of course, has I pointed in sugestion 2., every wrestler would love to be in this show, even if they have to miss other promotions with a little bit more prestige than IWA-MS. 4. Wrestlers wealth How rich is a wrestler? Why does that matter? It matters because it determines what the wrestler does to his carreer. If a guy is very rich and has much prestige, he doesn't need to be working every week, he may put lazy performances in little traditional indys who pay him a lot to have him in his shows. If for other side, the wrestler is poor, he will do as many shows as he can, and do dangerous matches if he needs to, and he will ask for a job to every independent promotion he knows. In another note, if it was possible to create wrestling schools in TEW, this would mean that the wrestlers with more money would assign the more expensive wrestling schools, and get a better training by doing so. The poor, would be probably backyarders and have a bad training (but, if they start winning money in little indys, they could apply to a good school). With this atribute, wrestler's passion for the business and resilience would also matter, as a poor kid, but who loves wrestling and wants to be a superstar no matter what, would be able to sacrifice a lot of things to get in the wrestling training school. Each school would teach diferent things (of course, a very good school would be able to teach almost everything), as one trainer may be more old school and teach wrestler the basics of psycology and other just teach them fancy dangerous moves. the wrestler would choose the school where he wants to train depending of his favourite wrestling style. 5. Wrestlers asking for job If we run a company, wrestlers should be able to send has videos with his past work, asking for job. We then would be able to answer then things in the lines of "You have potential, I my give you a try-out", "you're not ready yet, but I see some potential, send me new tapes in 2 months", "I'm very impressive, show up in the next show", "you're just terrible, go get some training!" Also, when we're running shows, wrestlers would be able to show up even if they were not booked, asking for a job, which may be usefull if someone of the booked guys miss the show. We call also just decide to put them in a multi man match and see what they got. Of course, we won't be penalised to not book this wrestlers, but, if we don't book a wrestler who is signed, he would most than probably just start to hate us. Also, if someone misses the show, we should be able to try quick bookings with local guys (example being the ROH Unscripted show, where Danny Daniels and lots of guys from AAW were use because lot's of guys from the main roster missed the show). 6. Buildings Would be great to be added this complexity in the game, where we have to make business with the buildings, so we could get better prices. "oh, that's not needed at all, it's just a little thing..." Well, it's not, because most of the indys have contracts with building where they get better prices per show for compromise to do a certain number of shows per month in that building (for example, we could get a good deal for a Venue, but we would have to do 4 shows per month in said venue). Also, buildings could have restrictions. In some, wouldn't be allowed to do deathmatches and stuff with blood. Also, some buildings would charge for the hour, and others, would just let we be there all night. This would allow us to don't have restrict time with our shows, and we could set an extra option in the road agents notes saying "wrestlers are free to make the match longer than the planned time if they feel so". Also, if we are paying for the hour, doing things with blood and lighttubes would make us lose lot's of non wrestling time after the show, for cleaning all the mess. Also in the time subject: 7. Shows time If the show is not televisioned, makes no sense to be so rigid in time. We should be able to do a 2 hours and 46 minutes show, or 3 hours and 2 minutes. Though, the show lenght will influence the crowd mood, if we have a 5 hours show, the crowd may get tired and bored, if we have a half hour show they may feel the show was too quick. (this most than probably is already in the game) 8. Cards Even if a promotions is really, really small, and has no prestige, if they put a good card in advanced booking for their opening show, they will have fans. If a new company books Jerry Lynn, Mike Quackenbush, Arik Cannon, Jimmy Jacobs, Tracy Smothers and The Necro Butcher for a show, they won't have 10 people watching, they'd have at least 30 or 40 fans. Sometimes I feel the advancing booking doesn't bring as much fans to the shows as it should. Don't know if I had more ideas that I forgot, but this are the major points

[tom_wk]

These are some pretty interesting ideas, I don't really play indys so they wouldn't really affect me, but they seem pretty reasonable.

[DodgyDavid]

I love these ideas, I always wanted to play the indies but found the lack of these things unrealistic. These would be the perfect add-ons for me.

[eayragt]

[QUOTE=Jay Lethal;405539] 3. Event Prestige Some wrestling events are prestige, to head comes off course, wrestlemania. Even if the card is the worst ever, there would be people buying it, just beacuse is wrestlemania (of course, if the show is bad, they'll lose prestige). My idea is, after every named show, prestige points will be given to said show and if the promotion decides to make another show with the same name the year after, then, there will be a very little extra hype from how good the first show was. If second show is also very good, the show starts to win his own prestige. A very good exemple from the real world is the Ted Petty Invitational tournament held by IWA-MS, which allways has extra fans watching for his own prestige, and not the IWA-MS prestige. The card itself is very diferent in this show, as the promotions books all the available talent, and of course, has I pointed in sugestion 2., every wrestler would love to be in this show, even if they have to miss other promotions with a little bit more prestige than IWA-MS. [/QUOTE] Not to knock the rest of the post, as it's quite well thought out, but Event Prestige is already in TEW 2007, so would likely also be in 2008. It works quite similarly to how you suggest.

[Jay Lethal]

[QUOTE=eayragt;406110]Not to knock the rest of the post, as it's quite well thought out, but Event Prestige is already in TEW 2007, so would likely also be in 2008. It works quite similarly to how you suggest.[/QUOTE] ok, I'm sorry them. But how can I see how prestige an event is in the game?

[Jouzy]

Events are rated from Average, Above Average, High and Historic. Or something like that anyways.

[Foxcutter]

Particularly like the whole wrestlers-asking-for-a-job idea, as it's something I've recently thought about, as well (it seems reasonable to expect that a lot of those wrestlers who occasionally complain about not having a job in the Media Center, would eventually approach you asking for you to give them a try out or something). Foxcutter.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=Jay Lethal;406117]ok, I'm sorry them. But how can I see how prestige an event is in the game?[/QUOTE] Look at the screen when you create the event. See the part under 'show length' and 'name' and 'brand' that says 'Importance'? There ya go.

[crayon]

While worker's hanging around and asking for jobs is something that happens, you can imagine that it's something you'd want to happen only very occasionally in a game though. Too frequent and it'd really start to get on your nerves like, "look, sod off, if I want to hire you I'll ask, OKAY?" Especially if we're talking washups and mediocre workers, which I'd assume would be the large majority hounding you for a slot

[Phantom Stranger]

[QUOTE=Jay Lethal;405539]Ok, this is probably impossible to make happen in te next game, as this would change the game's dinamic a lot, but I'd like to see some changes in the game, specially to change the way the indys are played. 1. First, all wrestlers should have an area (even though they are eligible to play in all of them). They could be for Great Lakes, Mid South, the East Coast, etc. This would make that, signing a wrestler from an area far from the promotion would cost to pay his airplane trip (if the areas are very far) or, the wrestler would have to make a long trip in his car, which would make him prefer to take local bookings (in that case, he will only accept do the trip if the other promotion has more prestige). This would make the game harder, but also more fun, has the booker will have to be carefull with the guys he brings from other areas. Guys without prestige, would have to win prestige in their local areas, and just then, promotions from other areas would be interested in book him. Also, it would make a lot hard to little promotions to make shows outside their area. [/QUOTE] You can already offer to pay travel costs.

[nick1091]

[QUOTE=crayon;406411]While worker's hanging around and asking for jobs is something that happens, you can imagine that it's something you'd want to happen only very occasionally in a game though. Too frequent and it'd really start to get on your nerves like, "look, sod off, if I want to hire you I'll ask, OKAY?" Especially if we're talking washups and mediocre workers, which I'd assume would be the large majority hounding you for a slot[/QUOTE] Agreed, since there's probably a reason you haven't hired the guy who's asking for the job. What I think might make this more interesting is if the wrestler approaching you for a job offers a "one time only discount." So for instance, let's say that Wrestler X usually commands a nightly wage of $300/show. But at your event, he comes up to you and is willing to reduce his asking price to say, $200 or $225/show, but only if you take him up on his offer tonight (if you went to approach him the next day, he'd ask for his standard amount.) That way you'd really have to think about whether or not to employ him, as opposed to getting diluged with offers from guys you're not interested in anyway.

[Michael Wayne]

[QUOTE=Remianen;406405]Look at the screen when you create the event. See the part under 'show length' and 'name' and 'brand' that says 'Importance'? There ya go.[/QUOTE] has anyone actually been able to get it to raise? I mean, I've several years in, and I don't recall any of mine going above normal.

[Phantom Stranger]

[QUOTE=Michael Wayne;406866]has anyone actually been able to get it to raise? I mean, I've several years in, and I don't recall any of mine going above normal.[/QUOTE] I know D-Mack and Marcel Fromage have mentioned it boosting in their diaries.

[lazorbeak]

[QUOTE=Michael Wayne;406866]has anyone actually been able to get it to raise? I mean, I've several years in, and I don't recall any of mine going above normal.[/QUOTE] It did take running the promotion for several years, but an indy start-up I had started getting above average prestige.

[Foxcutter]

[QUOTE=lazorbeak;407092]It did take running the promotion for several years, but an indy start-up I had started getting above average prestige.[/QUOTE] And I assume the same also holds true for the reputation of the different wrestling venues, as well? Admittedly, maybe I haven't been playing long enough to see it elevate to the next level but I'm curious as to what it takes to get it there or, for that matter, what the different levels of hierarchy actually are to begin with. Once again, I assume that holding an event in a 'rowdy' locale will influence your booking grade in some positive manner but does anybody have any experience with this? I've been putting on B/B+ shows for a little over a year now (with some A/A* matches -- sometimes more than one -- on the same card) but haven't seen the needle budge. Also, while I'm thinking about it, can certain buildings have a negative impact on your booking score, as well? Are there (or should there be) badly designed buildings (in addition to all of Jay's suggestions about them) that can drag your booking scores down? Is there a Hammerstein Ballroom (or an Anti-Hammerstein Ballroom) of the Cornell Universe? Thanks in advance for any insight that anybody has to offer. Foxcutter.

[Jay Lethal]

[QUOTE=Phantom Stranger;406753]You can already offer to pay travel costs.[/QUOTE] I know that The point is that in real life, workers from other regions demand their travel costs to be paid (aka the plane ticket). And the game doesn't have that ticket discrimination, in fact, I can book english and canadian guys (from England and Canadá) the same price I book a guy from my region. This could also make for an intersting freature of guys changing their region (as an example, a japanese guy could make a 'tour' in the US for some month, or an european wrestler could just move to try to make a name in America, like Castagnoli did and like Ares is doing)

[Phantom Stranger]

[QUOTE=Jay Lethal;407235] This could also make for an intersting freature of guys changing their region (as an example, a japanese guy could make a 'tour' in the US for some month, or an european wrestler could just move to try to make a name in America, like Castagnoli did and like Ares is doing)[/QUOTE] That's the thing, really - moving to the place your promotion does shows was the norm until the territories destructed [i]at minimum[/i] with the exception of tours, which are handled differently than other contracts in the first place. So you're looking at a feature which would monkey with historical mods, for example...

[Jay Lethal]

[QUOTE=Phantom Stranger;407238]That's the thing, really - moving to the place your promotion does shows was the norm until the territories destructed [i]at minimum[/i] with the exception of tours, which are handled differently than other contracts in the first place. So you're looking at a feature which would monkey with historical mods, for example...[/QUOTE] I don' know a lot about the territories. But when you say that they moved to the place their promotion did shows, if you say that they changed their home so they could work in another territoty, then my freature could still aply for historical mods, as the worker could change his region so he was able to work more frequently in another. About paying the travel, I mean that if a worker is from a region, and works thei in his home-promotion. If another promotion from anothr region would like to have him in a show, it'll have to pay the worker's airplane ticket, otherwise, the worker would just continue working in his area, where he'd do more money, even in less prestige feds.