Guest Ransik Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 WOW.... first look at Ultimate X and it looks incredible! [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMuvZUzEssU[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaynes23 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I hope it's good, but I have a feeling that it is just one of those games that is gonna suck hard. Don't know why, I just have that feeling in my gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I've been a huge supporter of the game thus far, but watching that it just seemed... "meh". I'm not sure why (maybe I'm just tired) but it struck me as basic and a bit slow. Still hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actarus Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Well, it definitely looks good, but so does Smackdown vs. Raw. Ultimately, I'm interested in how the game plays, so hopefully, I won't be let down in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 It looks a lot slower in this trailer than in the gameplay footage we had before. That Gore looked like crap! Like, take an Edge Spear that would be called a "running hug of doom", and that's it right there. I don't know if that's how Rhino does it now, but it looked bad. Other moves looked pretty good though, the spinning DDT, Angle Slam, etc. German was a bit slow (didn't have the "Everest feel to it to make up for it), but overall pretty solid. Ultimate X might be better than the actual match itself, kind of like HIAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ransik Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think that was a clothesline, not The Gore. EDIT: I just rewatched it and paused it at the moment he hits EY. It was a clothesline... quite misleading given the announcer talks about finishers right on that spot but it wasn't The Gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Well I certainly hope it is a clothesline. Weird that they put it by the Angle Slam, Ki Krusher and Styles Clash though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricanendp Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I'd say that's definately supposed to be the Gore tbh. I'm actually liking the look of the game play there, the German Suplex, might be slow as they could be adding in Weight Definition, doubt it, but would definately add something different to the game if Weight Definition was introduced for move speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I'm just excited to see Sting in a game again, what was the last one,...WCW/nWo Invasion, I thnk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3LSHY Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I don't think weight definition hasa naything to do with it. It was Rhino giving Eric Young a german. Also that kick from Samoa Joe to Booker T looked awfully slow aswell. Anyways I am really looking forward to this game, it should and hopefully will blow SvR out of the water :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W3LSHY Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Then again, on this video that Joe kick, aswell as pretty much all the other moves do actually look rather fast. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDt56fqe5_Q&NR=1[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ransik Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 If it was The Gore... someone obviously is a Batista fan and thinks that's how it is suppose to look. I think people think "it looks slow" because they're used to the Smackdown series, which is unrealistically fast in terms of how wrestlers move. I mean come on, Khali moves as fast as someone a third of his size in 2008! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanieshaman Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 As far as slow goes, isn't this supposed to be more like No Mercy was? or did i just [B][I]think[/I][/B] i heard that somewhere? Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ransik Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Yeah Joe and Styles have been quoted saying it's supposed to be like the No Mercy engine, they took the basis of gameplay from that. I just think people are so used to Smackdown being so fast they think TNA is too slow. Personally I think one minute matches in Smackdown games are no fun, which aside from any matches involving 6 guys is what I get out of the games. I hate games that play like that, and I stopped playing things like Mortal Kombat years ago because the whole match would be over in less than a minute... it's a waste. In WCW/nWo and the WWF games on 64... a match that lasted less than a minute was damn near impossible to pull off which is the way it ought to be. Is it really any fun playing as Khali and being as agile as say... Matt Hardy? Or being able to use Rey Mysterio and beating Khali in less than a minute? I don't see that as very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsplex Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I can't say the game looks abnormally slow. Smackdown's arcadey approach has slowed a bit since the first few editions, but it's still too fast for the most part. Anything feature or gameplay related that is a step back towards No Mercy is a plus in my book. The Gore does look disappointingly weak... hopefully there's more than one spear variation in the game. Ultimate X looks impressive, although it's hard to judge with such limited snapshots of it. For instance, you can check out people's Money In The Bank Ladder Match highlight reels on youtube and it looks amazing, yet when playing the game, you realise how the mode is considerably flawed. Apart from that, a couple of the arenas look a bit meh... although not enough to trigger horrible flashbacks towards the In Your House Series and battling Vadar on a mountain or HBK in a nightclub. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I found SVR08 too slow, not in terms of how fast the characters walked across the ring (Khali should be plodding along) but in terms of how you'd press a button, then it would get the characters into the right place, then it would play the animation. And the animations just wouldn't go fast enough for my taste. In games like Tekken you got instant gratification from most of your button presses, in Smackdown you didn't. You'd have to wait for the animation to play out. I know punch-kick fighting is different from grappling, but I found it boring I'm sensing a little of that from this TNA trailer. As I get older I'm wanting more balls-to-the-wall action in my video games, and maybe the wrestling game genre can't give it to me. I have very little interest in simulation at this point. I like Weight Definition, Movement Speed Differentiation etc, because it would make the characters different and unique enough to be fun, but I'd personally prefer things to move a bit faster than in real life (although X-Division speed feels pretty fun to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stallion Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I think the game looks great and as far as The Gore goes, they could just be slowing it down for the trailer (same with the German), however I could be wrong. I really think this game is going to benifit from Samoa Joe and AJ Styles being on hand a lot during the developmental proccess to give tips and ideas on how the game should play. Also if the game DOES go back to the style of No Mercy (which had a lot more stragty involved), then things might be a bit slower. Also Rhino could have been doing the Gore from close up or any number of things. I personally cant wait for this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stallion Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCEGQOvmIU&feature=related[/url] Take a look at some of the gameplay footage. Looks good, however I am not sure about a couple of things. First the entrances dont go all the way down to the ring and some of the moves Sting was doing should not be in his moveset. However this could just be early stuff and anything can change. Just did a little reading and I guess this was early in production so there might be some inacuracys (like no ref). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 [QUOTE=The Stallion;406091][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BCEGQOvmIU&feature=related[/url] Take a look at some of the gameplay footage. Looks good, however I am not sure about a couple of things. First the entrances dont go all the way down to the ring and some of the moves Sting was doing should not be in his moveset. However this could just be early stuff and anything can change.[/QUOTE] The first build with the right movesets and such is going to be on display for the first time this week. (Midway has a big event this week) Here is a video talking about that and other things with one of the Midway guys. [url]http://gamingring.com/news/?p=303[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 [QUOTE=The Stallion;406091]Take a look at some of the gameplay footage. Looks good, however I am not sure about a couple of things. First [B]the entrances dont go all the way down to the ring[/B] and some of the moves Sting was doing should not be in his moveset. However this could just be early stuff and anything can change.[/QUOTE] As far as I'm aware, they didn't see the need to do 'full' entrances, so they're just doing short ones. I'm all for it, they'll have more time to fine tune the gameplay. Entrances are basically fluff in those games, entertaining the first few times, nigh-on pointless thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stallion Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Self;406097]As far as I'm aware, they didn't see the need to do 'full' entrances, so they're just doing short ones. I'm all for it, they'll have more time to fine tune the gameplay. Entrances are basically fluff in those games, entertaining the first few times, nigh-on pointless thereafter.[/QUOTE] Yea and no. Big time entrances have been a staple of pro-wrestling for many years. How many times have you popped hard when you heared "Oh God Shawn!" or so on and so forth. Its a part of the experence and I think it should be a part of the game. You should not have to take away from the gameplay to input the full entrances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ransik Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I'm sure they're more worried about gameplay rather than entrnces right now anyway. What do you want them working on... the moves and the matches... or the entrances? I don't care if they have 15 second entrances or 5 minutes ones as long as they manage to pull off Ultimate X and King of the Mountain. The game is looking better all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 No Mercy also had super short entrances. Plus the example of hearing Shawn's music is completely irrelevant, since that opening line would obviously still be in a shortened intro (as it was in No Mercy, even!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 [QUOTE=The Stallion;406128]Yea and no. Big time entrances have been a staple of pro-wrestling for many years. How many times have you popped hard when you heared "Oh God Shawn!" or so on and so forth. Its a part of the experence and I think it should be a part of the game. You should not have to take away from the gameplay to input the full entrances.[/QUOTE] Not once in a long long time. (I don't even think Shawn wrestled at the last WWF event I went to SummerSlam 99) :D Also I have only twice poped for a video game entrance and that was a year and half after buying WWF attitude and comming across the language setting. (Made me po for the Roadd dogg's and HHH's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stallion Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 OK, I think I put my foot in my mouth here. Trust me, I want the game to be AWESOME! However I think a little flash cant hurt the game. The shortened entrances in No Mercy was the only thing I did not like about the game. I like seeing a wrestlers entrance, it always got me pumped for the match that I was getting ready to play. However if the entrances were shortened I would not care if the game-play is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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