Post Show Analysis

[sheepy]

Basically after each show that you held you'd get an email giving you a run down of the show. Among things mentioned would be; a) Who put on the best performance on the show. Basically in the news section you can see who the MVP was for other companies so why not here. b) Which workers generated the most heat (both face and heel). If you got a list of the top five faces and the top five heels. c) A run down of all the workers that need to change their gimmick / make a turn. d) Which segment or match the fans enjoyed the most. Although you get the ratings if you get several C rated matches then you don't really get an idea of which one was the best. e) Improvements in skill for each wrestler. Say wrestler a's mike skill went from a C to a C+. It should highlight this and do so for every wrestler that had his skill improve. I'm sure there are other things that could be included into this and I'm not really at my most creative at the moment but I think the initial idea is a good one. Often when running a show I'll miss some of the road agent notes but the ability to check this email where all the notes are included after the show would be a huge help IMO. I just get the feeling that it would be a nice addition to check as you sit back and bask in the glory of an A* show.

[Dolfanar]

I like this. It's another small time-saving addition. one of those "little additions" that can make the game faster to play. Another idea would be to add chemistry notes (Tag Team and match), good and bad. Good suggestion!

[Jay Lethal]

I feel frustrated some times when I book the show and then have so little feedback I think we should have more feedback from each match, like "they did a crazy spotfest match, which the crowd loved, although, there were some botches, Jason Stryfe botched a lot and the crowd was not impressed, Adam Pearce was out of his element in this kind of match and couldn't really do much" or "BJ Whitmer and Jimmy Jacobs put an amazing performance and made this match a very special moment, they did some really hard hitting stuff, worked the crowd wonderfull and made some rgeat near falls without overkilling the match, the end come when Jacobs took a crazy bump which the crowd won't forget soon" or even "the crowd exepected more hardcore spots, this was a No Rope Barbedwire Match, but none of the guys did much with barbwire" or even "Nice match, but Roderick Strong does much better matches in other promotions, even if he brings star power, you should consider stop booking him to use young guys who'd put their body in the line to make a name in this company" That way, we may be able to know who really gives it all for our promotion and who is skipable

[1PWfan]

I like this one, but I'd rather not have it in the game. There's a line where you can start getting too much feedback, and it getstoo much to remember. As for extensive feedback on matches like Jay suggested, I'm dead against that. As someone who enjoys writing dynasties I prefer to have less feedback on matches so I can make stuff up for thr write-ups.

[Dolfanar]

[QUOTE=1PWfan;405998]As for extensive feedback on matches like Jay suggested, I'm dead against that. As someone who enjoys writing dynasties I prefer to have less feedback on matches so I can make stuff up for thr write-ups.[/QUOTE] There is nothing stopping you from ignoring it and writing whatever you want anyway. This is a non-argument, imoho.

[Remianen]

This would rock! I'm not a fan of Jay's suggestion (it would seem canned after a while), but the idea of giving feedback on a show is awesome. It would most benefit those promotions that aren't heavy on the Cult aspect (vocal crowds) while still giving people concrete information they can use to tweak their shows. Given the fact that the ratings are supposed to indicate fan response/enjoyment, I think giving us better tools to accomplish that goal (in the figurative sense) is good. You also have the fact that even highly skilled people won't put on A* matches every time, due to promotion product. I'd like to be able to better identify the 'Lance Storms' of the promotion (i.e. the people you can count on to put on good matches, even if they aren't rated highly). But to be honest, I'd be happy with just a). Always wondered why the promotion you're running doesn't get that note. Personally, I don't need E since I track all of that myself. B and D would be great but I wouldn't lose sleep if it didn't happen. And C, well, C is already done at the segment/individual level.

[crayon]

I'm well in agreement with this (especially E, since I was crying for that in another thread just recently :P). The highly (or at least more) detailed suggestion I'd also like, but only if there was enough variation able to be built into it so it'd take a while before it gets repetitive (letting modders create varient notes/emails is something I've always been keen on). After spending such an amount of time booking a show, it would be nice to get some more feedback for all your hard work. Not to mention it makes road agents seem more useful. (and based on their talents they could give you more/less insightful notes)

[Bucky Sinister]

I like the sound of this, especially finding out who the Road Agents thought the show MVP was. I'd like more detail on the matches, too, but the place for that is when you're running the show itself. Yes, I'm the guy who liked the old EWR match descriptions. They never truly got old for me, and with the new finisher AI, I think they could be really interesting in the new game. Plus, I miss seeing the tilde (~!) in print...

[Chaoricus]

Can't but agree with this! More features like these would be great. Though... Match descriptions I can do without.

[mvargus]

I liked some of what Sheepy said, but others are extras to elements that appear elsewhere. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]Basically after each show that you held you'd get an email giving you a run down of the show. Among things mentioned would be; a) Who put on the best performance on the show. Basically in the news section you can see who the MVP was for other companies so why not here..[/QUOTE] This part of the suggestion would be very nice, although usually you have some idea of which match was the best performance. You might not know which wrestler in the match was the best, but usually I know which match was the best. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]b) Which workers generated the most heat (both face and heel). If you got a list of the top five faces and the top five heels. .[/QUOTE] A list of the top 5 would be too much for a small indy promotion that might only have 14 wrestlers total. But better feedback on which wrestlers are getting audience responses would be nice. right now the only feedback regarding this is the notes that appear after a match where a wrestler the audience doesn't like appears, and that only indicates that you have a wrestler that the audience doesn't like style-wise. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]c) A run down of all the workers that need to change their gimmick / make a turn..[/QUOTE] You get this during the show feedback when it runs down the individual segments. Adding it to the post match report is a bit redundant. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]d) Which segment or match the fans enjoyed the most. Although you get the ratings if you get several C rated matches then you don't really get an idea of which one was the best..[/QUOTE] This is a bit close to suggestion A where you want a bit more clarification on how good the match was. I'll admit that if you are getting several matches with the same high rating it can be hard to determine which one was #1, but is it really necessary? Having multiple matches tied for best rating just suggests more potential angles and matches while you build up your roster. Not sure knowing which one was the best will help much. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]e) Improvements in skill for each wrestler. Say wrestler a's mike skill went from a C to a C+. It should highlight this and do so for every wrestler that had his skill improve. .[/QUOTE] This is also part of the show reports when you see a comment "X is improving in their Y skills" or similar lines. It doesn't always cover a change in the letter grade, but it does give you an idea of combinations which have resulted in high levels of improvement. As for seeing the letter grade improvements. I check the stats of my roster regularly and track changes, so this would not be particularly useful. [QUOTE=sheepy;405983]I'm sure there are other things that could be included into this and I'm not really at my most creative at the moment but I think the initial idea is a good one. Often when running a show I'll miss some of the road agent notes but the ability to check this email where all the notes are included after the show would be a huge help IMO. I just get the feeling that it would be a nice addition to check as you sit back and bask in the glory of an A* show.[/QUOTE] I also miss some of the road agent notes. It always seems to take a bit of time to figure out which wrestlers work well together and who will shine if pushed hard, especially since there are a few random stats you don't see which make a difference (the "Destiny" stat in 2007) But if too much information is given, than there is little actual work to do and the game will become boring. I think your suggestions have merit, but they should be tempered with the idea that no owner/booker knows everything about the audience, and still has to rely in his instincts and guesses in the end, no matter how good his research is.

[sheepy]

For a lot of these things its a case of highlighting things that you might miss when you're running the show. Seeing as you can't skip back after clicking next segment including stuff like needing a turn can get missed. This would provide a way of saving those "Oh nuts, what did that message just say...go back, go back...fiddle sticks!" I do take you're point about making the game too easy though. Of course not all the information has to be 100% accurate. With the top 5 face / heel heat suggestion you could easily have a heel getting face cheers. This could lead to a successful face turn where it goes down well or it could backfire immensly because being a face doesn't suit the worker and they work better at being a cool heel who can sometimes get cheered. I guess in retrospect that this suggestion is 2 fold. 1) highlighting things that can be easily missed during the show and 2) increasing the amount of feedback from the fans watching.

[crayon]

I think the suggestion is actually 3 fold. What's being forgotten is that it's also just really nice fluff that'd help add a little more immersion and pay-off to booking a show. Sure, we can get by without most of the information, but if you've spent an hour setting up a killer ppv it'd be nice to get a good amount of feedback on your hard-earned blood, sweat, and tears. And when skimmed over it could be seen as a summary, where you can take in the show as a whole and how it clicked. Again, yes you can do that by remembering the road agent notes after each match but this would be easier (yet also provide more info than the history of events screen). Same goes for clearly showing letter grade improvements. I think sometimes we get so used to TEW that we forget just how dense and (too) time consuming a game this is for the majority of people out there. I can appreciate the concerns for it making booking too simple, if too much information is dished out. And that's why I think the quality and/or extent of notes you get back should be tied directly to a road agent's skill levels. Possibly their relationships and preferences as well. (and hey, maybe some verey slight randomosity even) The key is to make the information more in line with what you could expect in real life as well as culling everything that you could find out yourself, post-match, into one handy place. Information gathering would be easier for the user, but the challenge of how you use all that information would still remain. As it'd take a fair bit of finessing, I can see it actually being a feature that'd take a while to implement right so I wouldn't expect it till TEW 2009 anyway :)