Releasing Fighters

[Irish Wolf]

So I bought the game the day it came out. Played for a few weeks and put it aside. I just picked it up again this past weekend and well I have a few questions. Although I'll just post them one at a time. So I went back a few pages and put when to release in the search of the WMMA board but couldn't find an answer on when people decide to cut a fighter and why. In TEW I'm pretty loyal to my roster and I hardly ever fire anyone but in WMMA that seems to be less of an option?

[Blasphemywebleed]

[QUOTE=Apupunchau@optonline;417057]So I bought the game the day it came out. Played for a few weeks and put it aside. I just picked it up again this past weekend and well I have a few questions. Although I'll just post them one at a time. So I went back a few pages and put when to release in the search of the WMMA board but couldn't find an answer on when people decide to cut a fighter and why. In TEW I'm pretty loyal to my roster and I hardly ever fire anyone but in WMMA that seems to be less of an option?[/QUOTE] I have found myself pretty loyal in WMMA as well as TEW. If I like a fighter then i'll generally keep him no matter what. If its someone i'm a bit meh about then 3 losses in a row usually means instand release.

[jamie1989]

It all depends. If I have a guy on the roster who I know is talented I tend to give them standard contracts so they can bolster there record up in other organizations. I let a lot of the really bad guys go who just can't seem to get a win, although may keep one or two around so my newer younger fighters can get some W's under there belt.

[War Kapur]

2 losses in a row = redzone for me 3 and their out, I dont care who it is rav kapur, james foster and tim boyer all got the boot at one point in their careers becuz of this

[grits207]

I'm loyal to talented/exciting fighters. In my GAMMA game Sean Morrison lost 6 fights in a row before I cut him. Now he is in BCF getting beat by cans almost every fight. On the other hand I will release crappy fighters like Ralph Kohl after just one or two losses. Same with fighters with less that 5 fights.

[Irish Wolf]

OK well so far my strategy has been after 5 fights if their total win loss record and their win loss record just for me are both under 50% I let them go. Problem is I'm a tiny little start up fed and their aren't that many fighters (at least ones with even mediocre excitement) that I can hire.

[BlackJackRob21]

I never have cut fighter. I have never cut fighters because I don't want to lose my cred with them. If I did what you guys are saying I might need a whole new roster. How many people can you got before you get a bad rep for it?

[BuddyGarner]

I won't cut anybody who is at least popular, quite exciting, has a 50/50 record or greater, has mad skills, a win over a top fighter, or has not achieved at least two losses in a row. Beginners have to get three losses in a row.

[Eyeball]

[QUOTE=BuddyGarner;417891]I won't cut anybody who is at least popular, quite exciting, has a 50/50 record or greater, has mad skills, a win over a top fighter, or has not achieved at least two losses in a row. Beginners have to get three losses in a row.[/QUOTE] Depends on a variety of factors for me. 1. Excitement value. I've kept sub-par fighters on a long time because of them being exciting to watch. 2. Reknown. I'm a lot more reluctant to cut well known fighters from my roster than unknown ones. 3. Actual ability. Some fighters underperform because of bad luck. If they're skilled and physically gifted enough, I usually let them stay on for a long while regardless of their record. And even if they go to 0-5, I can still use them as scrubs to build up new 0-0 guys. 4. Whether their photo looks retarded or not. Silvie Scirea absolutely SUCKED in my game but I still kept him until he retarded because I liked his constipated frown and ballet-like stance. Don Norman, on the other hand, I dropped like a bad habit after he started sucking just a little bit. Couldn't stand looking at him. What I DON'T cut fighters based on: current streak. I mean, just because someone loses 3 in a row when you put him against absolutely top competition doesn't mean he sucks or anything, it just mean you should take him down a notch from fighting world-class to fighting merely dangerous or very dangerous competition. Only time I'll cut people based on streak is if they amass 0-4 streaks or something against crappy competition. I have a 0-5 guy on right now and he's getting cut as soon as I get around to it. If I cut newbies every time they had a 0-3 streak, I'd have cut Sukarno. Anyone know when the AI cuts fighters? Some of it I can understand, like them cutting crappy fighters, but they keep so many other really godawful fighters it makes no sense that they sometimes cut really skilled ones. Alpha cut Jeff Carlton for chrissakes, and after he had a 4-2 record in Alpha. He's now my HW champ after whipping Kapur. (whom I hate, by the way.)

[War Kapur]

[QUOTE=War Kapur;417246]2 losses in a row = redzone for me 3 and their out, I dont care who it is rav kapur, james foster and tim boyer all got the boot at one point in their careers becuz of this[/QUOTE] Damn, I sound ruthless compared to yall.

[cainekass]

[QUOTE=War Kapur;418377]Damn, I sound ruthless compared to yall.[/QUOTE] You cut 3 of the best fighters in the game period! Sooner or later they are going to lose a series of matches. No way I would cut Kapur, Foster AND Boyer. Thats not a very strong HW division without them IMO....without them who did you have that was as popular and solid for your division? I cut guys if they newer and don't seem to have good matches and long streaks. Some guys I keep because you need to have the occasional jobber (Big wrestling fan sorry!) or can. I keep some guys because they have a tendency to upset from time to time. Bruce Steven will randomly show up and outlast and outfight a guy. Steve Mason on my game sucks horribly. but, he will show flashes of greatness and upset people and compile a streak. Hans-Peter Schneider just recently has gone on a tear winning like 5 in a row and upsetting my middleweight champion for the title and retaining it against a solid contender as well. And the main reason I kept him was because a warm body until I could find better talent for the division!

[BuddyGarner]

Well you need some jobbers as it is a pyramid scheme. You know you don't have enough fighters when some of your best guys are mediocore competitors. Which is why guys with charisma and excitement are so valuable. They bypass the pyramid system. Of course, it's hard to get everyone properly ranked as you only get 10 or 12 fights a card. But you take guys from BCF, job them out. Fire some of your lesser guys. Of course, any of the lesser fighters can be taken up by the competition. It's frustrating to see the guy you sacked now a top ten fighter for the other fed. What compounds things is the fact that people tend to retire when they are dangerous to world class competitors. Screwing you over before you have a chance to job them out until they are mediocore. And BCF doesn't hold enough events to produce jobbers reliably. It's easy to sack guys at the beginning of the game when everybody has a padded record.

[War Kapur]

[QUOTE=cainekass;418884]You cut 3 of the best fighters in the game period! Sooner or later they are going to lose a series of matches. No way I would cut Kapur, Foster AND Boyer. Thats a very strong HW division without them....without them who did you have that was as popular and solid for your division? I cut guys if they newer and don't seem to have good matches and long streaks. Some guys I keep because you need to have the occasional jobber (Big wrestling fan sorry!) or can. I keep some guys because they have a tendency to upset from time to time. Bruce Steven will randomly show up and outlast and outfight a guy. Steve Mason on my game sucks horribly. but, he will show flashes of greatness and upset people and compile a streak. Hans-Peter Schneider just recently has gone on a tear winning like 5 in a row and upsetting my middleweight champion for the title and retaining it against a solid contender as well. And the main reason I kept him was because a warm body until I could find better talent for the division![/QUOTE] I cute James Foster and he fights for PRIDE now...Tim Boyer was cut and fought for PRIDE(he was on a set standard for a while, fought there and few times then with me for like 2 then I released him) then he retired. He's HOF. Rav Kapur is with PRIDE and is doing his thing. My current top HWs in terms of skill are Eien Kawano(1 time champ, maybe 2), Souleymane, Chuck Liddell, 2 created HWs, Gregorz(2 times champ) and Alexsander Ivanov and Wilson Franklyn(who just lost to Thiago Silva lolz, Thiago bumped weight to fight him once)....I have Kimbo, Brock Lesnar, Bob Dozier and James Thompson as normal fighters...