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I had an '07 dynasty game going on where he had decent destiny, got a little bit of popularity too. It takes a loooong time though. He was never anything good then a monster midcard to put other characters over on, but he like most other characters can become somewhat decent if matched against good opponents.
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[QUOTE=Apupunchau@optonline;440584]Here's the roster I want to see taken to the moon. Dusty Bin Trauma Stretch the Chicken Boy Weird Waldo Odlaw "Free Form" Jeremy Jazz Tempest Appleby "The Sprout Faced Boy" Keith Vegas Mark Smart[/QUOTE] Mark Smart and Stretch the Chicken Boy could both be good go-to guys for a smallish promotion. And Tempest Appleby is practically made for a throwaway cruiserweight role in a larger promotion.
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[QUOTE=Apupunchau@optonline;440584]Here's the roster I want to see taken to the moon. Dusty Bin Trauma Stretch the Chicken Boy Weird Waldo Odlaw "Free Form" Jeremy Jazz Tempest Appleby "The Sprout Faced Boy" Keith Vegas Mark Smart[/QUOTE] Dont forget "Bump Machine" Ben Williams...I was gonna moon push him till his stamina decided to hold him back.
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[QUOTE=DaMegaFish;440621]Dont forget "Bump Machine" Ben Williams...I was gonna moon push him till his stamina decided to hold him back.[/QUOTE] Nice add and I'm gonna put another one on there Murderous Mikey Dusty Bin Trauma Stretch the Chicken Boy Weird Waldo Odlaw "Free Form" Jeremy Jazz Tempest Appleby "The Sprout Faced Boy" Keith Vegas Mark Smart Ben Williams Murderous Mikey
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[QUOTE=Apupunchau@optonline;440632]Nice add and I'm gonna put another one on there Murderous Mikey Dusty Bin Trauma Stretch the Chicken Boy Weird Waldo Odlaw "Free Form" Jeremy Jazz Tempest Appleby "The Sprout Faced Boy" Keith Vegas Mark Smart Ben Williams Murderous Mikey[/QUOTE] I remember back in 05 when I actually got Murderous Mikey over as hell while in DAVE
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[QUOTE=praguepride;440870]What, no love for Leo Davis and Crash Williams, at least those other guys have youth on their side. And Tempest Appleby is waaaaay to good to be thrown in with the rest of them, might as well include Cal Sanders and Thomas Morgan :D[/QUOTE] I've almost always been able to get Sanders and Morgan over but Appleby is on the side of 30 and I can never get his Psych to get over C or any of his skills to really improve that much. I brought him into a CZCW game and teamed him with Phenomenal E from the start and in four years I could never get their team above openers. I'm gonna stick by Appleby but I will add Davis and Williams to the roster. Dusty Bin Trauma Stretch the Chicken Boy Weird Waldo Odlaw "Free Form" Jeremy Jazz Tempest Appleby "The Sprout Faced Boy" Keith Vegas Mark Smart Ben Williams Murderous Mikey Crash Williams Leo Davis And that's 12 workers a starting roster for a small fed.
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[QUOTE=Vladamire Dracos;440904]Another one who could go one that list is "The Black Mark" Calvin Dark.[/QUOTE] Nah, he doesn't count. He's too expensive to make the "so bad he's actually good" thing work for him :p Especially as he's about as interesting as fun to work with as being shot in the face. As for Dusty, he just put on a D- match in one of my games. In 2013, after five long, long years of absolutely abhorrent matches. It's amazing what a mediocre storyline can do ¬_¬ Unfortunately, my latest dynasty attempt is screwing me over, as the owner goals mean I can't hire Ben Williams or Dusty, or even Trauma (who I can't think of anything for at the moment, but it'll come...). Luckily, there's always 'Ravishing' Rex Reeves. Mark Smart doesn't belong on a roster like this either, really, he's comparatively awesome :p That's like having Rod Remus on there. I never hire Waldo Outlaw either, because he's just the least inspirational person ever. His gimmick is that he's weird? Well, welcome to pro wrestling, son. We've got a chicken, a beetle, a small insect, a wizard dressed in plate armour and a lumberjack, you're gonna have to do a lot better than that. Not to mention that his picture makes him look at least double his actual age. That reminds me, Wizard of Ottawa definately belongs on this list.
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I actually brought Murderous Mikey into MAW once to play off the "underworld" role that Antonio had. It worked out pretty well he worked his way up to Upper Midcard. Granted that doesn't translate well when you look at how small MAW is...but still
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I'd always planned to follow Owner Goals to the letter, but I've just defied 2 of them to bring "The Black Mark" Calvin Dark into SWF. He'll have some gold by the end of the year, mark my words. If fact, Black Mark my words.
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I think Bob Casey gets a reprieve on account of he can actually do some things right. Nobody has him on the roster to produce good matches; he's there because he's willing to job and able to teach the kids basics. I've had... well, not good matches with Appleby, quite. D matches with Appleby, which is pretty good given the situation. He's clearly an opening match guy, but between his flying skills, decent performance (except psych, and even that is bad but not awful), and ability to play both a face and a heel (not well, but still), you could do worse for opening-match bait. Are we being polite to the likes of Gargantuan and King Kong Kennedy because they're young? (Though actually Kennedy's not that young... so maybe we're not saying them because they're giant monster heels, and generally speaking, NONE of those guys have talent.) But you've missed at least one guy... well, at least two guys, but Boris Kiriyakin can only wrestle in Europe. (Well, he can't wrestle anywhere, but you know what I mean.) Most importantly, though, how about [B]Mad Dog Mortimer[/B]? He fits all my criteria for a bad wrestler: -- First of all, he's bad. He's not the worst of these bad wrestlers, but he is really bad. He doesn't have in-ring skill, and he doesn't have charisma. -- This despite the fact that he's not in a "position" where you would expect to find a bad worker -- he's not a monster heel, or a BSC-style women's worker. He's a regular-sized brawler who just happens to be really bad. -- He's not so young that he has a chance of getting better, but he's not so old that you can assume he probably used to be better. He is pretty much in his prime right now. -- He's always unemployed. -- He's got a goofy-looking, ugly picture. -- And, to top it all off, his bio is about how he's bad at wrestling. A true cult figure, and a worthy addition to the Worst Promotion Ever.
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Mad Dog is auto-exempt from these lists due to his "Leisure Suit Morty" gimmick that is so delightful to see. As for King Kong Kennedy, he has a job, so why would he be on the list of losers of the cverse world? He is getting paid. As for Gargantuan, I've got two words: Star Quality. It doesn't matter how terrible he is, with an 'A' in SQ, TCW or SWF or any other Entertainment fed could hire him and push him just as over as Big Smack Scott. Actually, in many ways Gargantuan is already better then BSS (like how he probably won't kill anyone in the ring, unlike Scott) One person we're missing...well actually 5 people we're missing: The Quest - Super Sonic, Daredevil Aero, Fearless Blue, Xavier Reckless, and Extreme Deluxe. They're all pretty terrible, except for Xavier but then his backstage personality problems help lower his score some. edit: I'd add Matty Phatty to the list. His skills are really good but his gimmick is so stupid I could never imagine using it in any fed that I have ever run. We need to get that man an alt pic and a new gimmick fast! edit 2: As for Waldo, I'm thinking of adding him to my dynasty CCW and making his gimmick off of the old Where's Waldo books. He'll be an adventurer who'll just disappear in the middle of matches, leaving everyone asking "Where the f*** is Waldo?" edit 3: I just checked hot prospects for my fed, and of a roster of 30, I only have 4 hot prospects: #1 JMB, #2 Trauma, #3 Dusty Bin, #4 Nurse Darla Knight all I can say is...wow.
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[QUOTE=praguepride;441068] edit 2: As for Waldo, I'm thinking of adding him to my dynasty CCW and making his gimmick off of the old Where's Waldo books. He'll be an adventurer who'll just disappear in the middle of matches, leaving everyone asking "Where the f*** is Waldo?" [/QUOTE] Beautiful.
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If I really wanted to push Waldo, go with that gimmick and then find a good worker who could use some pop but isn't in a storyline. Have the other worker (called Joe) be in a match and waldo suddenly appears and screws Joe on the match. Joe gets pissed and goes for a rematch, but in the middle of the match, the lights go out and suddenly Waldo is gone, nowhere to be found. The ref calls it a draw, Joe gets even more pissed and makes it his mission to legitimately beat Waldo. Cue a series of hunts and matches that end in Waldo escaping. Build to blow off and there ya go, how to use Waldo :D
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Heh. Mad Dog Mortimer. One time I teamed him up with Murderous Mikey and somebody else (can't remember who), and had him do a Drug Dealer gimmick as part of a underworld style stable. His new name? Mad Stash Mortimer. He actually ended up midcard in the local fed I ran with that team and gimmick and ended up with tag team gold. Wasn't Waldo once the masked hardcore wrestler "The Gremlin"? You could always go back to that gimmick for him. How about Ron "Ronnie G" Greenhorn? Guy lacks entertainment skills. Period. Mic skills, charisma, and acting all F-. His In-ring isn't much better, his highest skill being Mat wrestling at D (and the other tech skills are E/E-).
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[QUOTE=praguepride;441068]edit 2: As for Waldo, I'm thinking of adding him to my dynasty CCW and making his gimmick off of the old Where's Waldo books. He'll be an adventurer who'll just disappear in the middle of matches, leaving everyone asking "Where the f*** is Waldo?"[/QUOTE] That has to be the best gimmick for any C-Verse character I have every heard in my entire career of playing TEW. Damn it, that is so awesome! I will have to steal it now! :p
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