Eisen-verse Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 ========================== Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I don't know if it's just me... but I actually liked RAW. I haven't been a big fan of the show for quite some time now but I actually found myself pretty happy with the show. The matches, the segments... Really everything. With that being said.... Lance Cade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoshRollins Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Raw was good. The main event was good, although you can always tell when Y2J is calling a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Anthony Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 Lance Cade was a nice touch. But I have a feeling they'll misuse him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 [QUOTE]although you can always tell when Y2J is calling a move.[/QUOTE] Very true. He and Triple H put on a great match though. I'm excited though that they may be pushing Jericho as a bigger heel on the show. [QUOTE]Lance Cade was a nice touch. But I have a feeling they'll misuse him.[/QUOTE] Yea, it was just out of nowhere. ya know? Then again... It would be great to see Jericho use him in his feud with Shawn Michaels. Bringing out a guy that Shawn trained to help him destroy the once HBK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerrerofan777 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I reckon Lance Cade is going down the same route as JBL. But what pissed me off is that while HBK's friends are getting thrusted to the main event for no reason, Kennedy is jobbing to the Burchills even though he's been improving every week and gets a very good pop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattitudeV2 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 [QUOTE=Guerrerofan777;444646]I reckon Lance Cade is going down the same route as JBL. But what pissed me off is that while HBK's friends are getting thrusted to the main event for no reason, Kennedy is jobbing to the Burchills even though he's been improving every week and gets a very good pop.[/QUOTE] Yeah but at least there trying to do something different hopefully he wins when it comes to this next PPV after Night of Champions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 If they're going to put Kennedy and Burchill on Pay-Per-View now it will have to be in some sort of gimmick match at the Great American Bash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattitudeV2 Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 [QUOTE=Destiny;444655]If they're going to put Kennedy and Burchill on Pay-Per-View now it will have to be in some sort of gimmick match at the Great American Bash.[/QUOTE] Not Neccessarliy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 [QUOTE=MattitudeV2;444656]Not Neccessarliy.[/QUOTE] I don't think people will be very interested in a straight-up singles match. They had one a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerrerofan777 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Why not simply put Kennedy in a feud that, ya know, means something? Because I don't think jobbing to Burchill and his "sister" every single week is good for Kennedy's momentum and credibility... I'm sure that if Kennedy was trained by Shawn Michaels he'd be winning World Titles in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 That's a ridiculous statement. Lance Cade's been in tag team obscurity for years, wheras Kennedy has been given numerous chances, in high-profile feuds with The Undertaker, and winning Money In The Bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 [QUOTE]I'm sure that if Kennedy was trained by Shawn Michaels he'd be winning World Titles in no time.[/QUOTE] Yea.... cause Lance Cade and Brian Kendrick are really "on top of the WWE"? haha. That's completely false. I'm sure it helps some of these guys get initially hired because they are HBK's guys, however, I doubt they are receiving any benefits from that as you can see his guys haven't really done much outside of tag team wrestling. Even with Lance Cade's presumed climb... I doubt he'll do more than act as an enforcer for Jericho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkevd Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It was great to see Jericho back as not a heel but as a main eventer he really stole the show and I'm glad they're saving Triple H and Jericho cos it could be built into something great. As for Lance Cade im all for it people are always moaning about the same people being used in the main event well theres someone different but basically because hes a heel its received poorly. Also the possibility of a Jericho stable with Cade and maybe a few others excites me, finally some new stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerrerofan777 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 [QUOTE=Destiny;445417]That's a ridiculous statement. Lance Cade's been in tag team obscurity for years, wheras Kennedy has been given numerous chances, in high-profile feuds with The Undertaker, and winning Money In The Bank.[/QUOTE] Of course he's been in tag team obscurity, he wouldn't get thrusted to the top immediately. I mean, who the hell ever saw Garrison Cade as a viable main eventer? My point is, being HBK's friend might've helped this sudden push to the main event, and I give kudos to the E for trying to bring in someone fresh, but Lance Cade hasn't improved that much and isn't exactly "oozing" charisma. Whereas Kennedy has been stuck in a rut lately, the only bright thing coming from him in the last months was the face turn and him gaining a huge win over Regal, how do they capitalise on that? Put him jobbing to Burchill the next week. Sure, he's had great feuds with Taker that gave him heat, but it seems that every time he gains heat, they either "forget" about him or he gets injured. I might be going a bit extreme on that statement, but from what I've seen over the years,Shawn Michaels and Triple H's friends that are minimally acceptable to Vince are hardly forgotten... Regrding Brian Kendrick, he had a one year reign with the tag team gold, and the only reason he never reached the top is probably due to his size, Cade has the "WWE Standard" size. Again, I like the fact that the WWE is trying to bring in fresh faces to the main event, but c'mon, Lance Cade? At lest JBL was an effective heel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 18, 2008 Author Share Posted June 18, 2008 I honestly don't really get the whole "love fest" for Kennedy. Then again, I didn't like Steve Austin for the longest time (mostly because the WWE pushed him so down our throats... him and Cena) so maybe I'm just not a big fan when I see a guy who is supposedly going to be a big time player not live up to what I want to see. Sure, He's a pretty good in-ring talent.. however.. his little rants seem like a cross between HBK (gum smacking), The Rock (the delivery of certain things), and Steve Austin (his overall demeanor). Now, I know... Just like in music.. Everyone who came after Michael Jackson seemed to take something away from the guy and many could be considered a wanna-be when they might be trying to do their own thing.... However, I just can't get behind Kennedy. I've tried... I've tried... but he isn't all that entertaining and seems stale (mostly because he seems like he is trying to be a mixture of the three guys above) and doesn't really seem to fit the main event. We need new stars though... So I guess I can see why people would want to see him up there pushing for something great. All in all, I think kennedy should at least spend some time viaing for the IC title or something. Kennedy vs. Jericho could be interesting. No major feuds for him though... No World Title runs... just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 [QUOTE=Guerrerofan777;445761]Regrding Brian Kendrick, he had a one year reign with the tag team gold, and the only reason he never reached the top is probably due to his size, Cade has the "WWE Standard" size.[/QUOTE] So your proof that Kendrick would have been pushed to the main event is that he [i]hasn't[/i] been pushed to the main event. Outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDE71 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Shooting Star Press on last nights ECW!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;445770]I honestly don't really get the whole "love fest" for Kennedy. Then again, I didn't like Steve Austin for the longest time (mostly because the WWE pushed him so down our throats... him and Cena) so maybe I'm just not a big fan when I see a guy who is supposedly going to be a big time player not live up to what I want to see. Sure, He's a pretty good in-ring talent.. however.. his little rants seem like a cross between HBK (gum smacking), The Rock (the delivery of certain things), and Steve Austin (his overall demeanor). Now, I know... Just like in music.. Everyone who came after Michael Jackson seemed to take something away from the guy and many could be considered a wanna-be when they might be trying to do their own thing.... However, I just can't get behind Kennedy. I've tried... I've tried... but he isn't all that entertaining and seems stale (mostly because he seems like he is trying to be a mixture of the three guys above) and doesn't really seem to fit the main event. We need new stars though... So I guess I can see why people would want to see him up there pushing for something great. All in all, I think kennedy should at least spend some time viaing for the IC title or something. Kennedy vs. Jericho could be interesting. No major feuds for him though... No World Title runs... just yet.[/QUOTE] I aggree here to an extent. I can "Feel" it coming, and a couple times I thought they were going to rush him into something too fast (at least for my taste). I actually thought he was alot more entertaining with MVP, when they were feuding against the Brother's of Darkness. I enjoyed that stuff quite a bit. It's obvious they are going to push him. It was obvious they were going to before, but he screwed that one up. Same with Jeff hardy. Jericho is the right guy as far as I'm concerned to hold the titla he has right now. One thing I can't stand, is when someone gets a belt or some other notable storyline prop (Money in the bank-Kennedy screwed it up, CM Punk is the right man for it, King of the Ring......... Regal wins it, then a couple weeks later gone.... By the guy that screwed up his Money in the bank push). I would wait a good while before I trusted Kennedy fully (giving him a storyline Prop of any kind). I don't mind the feuding, and pushing outside of the props, but the props need to stay with the guys I'm not worried about screwing them up (by getting fired or suspended, I don't mind Edge getting hurt every four months, in comparison). ECW is starting to lose me, seems they are going with the Gymnastic circus act routine now... It used to be my favorite brand, but I'm starting to get into RAW more these days. Just standing there waiting for a guy to flip on me, and hardly ever connecting in a way that looks like it doesn't hurt themselves more then the other guy... I can't suspend disbelief for that. You jump in the air, let's grab those legs and see how hard that head can hit the canvas... That's the way I see it. Exactly what anyone would do, but somehow everyone just stands there or moves just right, so that it at least looks like they hit them. Not realistic at all to me. I'm digging the money being given away, seems quite a few of the people getting it, actually needed it. Very nice to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJoshRollins Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Kennedy, Regal, and Jeff Hardy are all in the same boat. Kennedy has said that he doesn't believe steroid use is bad. He has test positive for them. Plus he has been injured a bit. WWE has a policy where he would be gone on the third strike for the 'roids, or he may get injured too much. They aren't going to push him to the moon just for him to screw it up again by doing drugs or breaking something. Regal most likely will never get another in-ring push. He screwed this last one up, and it's sad. He deserved this push. Jeff Hardy will never win the World Title in my opinion because he is a flake. Kennedy and Regal deserve pushes, but they are too risky. Hardy is just way too risky, and I don't really think he deserves much. Then again, I don't like him at all. Stupid white trash, color my hair, listen to lame music. Sorry, I live in a hick town with idiots already. Don't need to see it on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Kennedy didn't screw up his MitB push, he got injured, so they had to take it off him, because he was supposed to win the title like, two weeks later, after 'Taker got injured. They had to make him drop it to Edge. He did screw up his 'McMahon Jr' push though. Also, I marked out with a passion usually reserved for The Rock when Flair's music hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 [QUOTE=G-Prime;447254]Kennedy didn't screw up his MitB push, he got injured, so they had to take it off him, because he was supposed to win the title like, two weeks later, after 'Taker got injured. They had to make him drop it to Edge. He did screw up his 'McMahon Jr' push though. [B]Also, I marked out with a passion usually reserved for The Rock when Flair's music hit[/B].[/QUOTE] /nod, that's correct. Aggree 100% on the unbolded. The bolded part: I think we all will for now on, whenever he show's up. It's something about knowing someone is really gone, and seeing them on the show. It's a bigger deal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I thought Kennedy was supposed to take on a Champion at the following Wrestlemania. Didn't he have some sort of countdown thing going? The way I remember it, Kennedy and Undertaker got hurt at around the same time, so they came up with the Edge thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatallylost Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [QUOTE=Guerrerofan777;445410]Why not simply put Kennedy in a feud that, ya know, means something? Because I don't think jobbing to Burchill and his "sister" every single week is good for Kennedy's momentum and credibility... I'm sure that if Kennedy was trained by Shawn Michaels he'd be winning World Titles in no time.[/QUOTE] Yup, Brian Kendrick, world champ, Paul London, world champ, Shawn Hernandez world.. oh wait, doesn't work there. Bryan Danielson doesn't.. or, may soon work there, won't be used for anything. Mm hmm. Weren't they gonna push Cade solo years ago? I recall an HBCade story once upon a blue moon. So, yeah, out of nowhere it was. [QUOTE=Self;447491]I thought Kennedy was supposed to take on a Champion at the following Wrestlemania. Didn't he have some sort of countdown thing going? The way I remember it, Kennedy and Undertaker got hurt at around the same time, so they came up with the Edge thing.[/QUOTE] They weren't sure how bad, or how long he'd be out.. so who knew if they could push a WM main event in a short amount of time.. so he dropped the MitB to Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ransik Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I was always under the assumption that the Wrestlemania countdown was just a false sense of security being done by the heel Mr. Kennedy to catch a World Champion off guard at his weakest point. *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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