USPW Old meets the New

[Stennick]

So right about halfway through TEW 2007's life before 08 I started reading the boards here and raeding everyone's fondness for the Cornellverse. Disechanted with the real world mods here and way too lazy to make my own I thought I'd give it a shot. I just made my own promotion, and only signed workers that were not working for anyone else at the time. That combined with the flux of good new workers that come in i was able to get guys like Steve Flash, Frankie Dee, Thomas Morgan, Madman, Ota, Tempest, Tigre and some others combined with Bulldozer and Alicia Strong. My point being is that I had fun with it but found it very hard to move up the ranks with the promotion until I tweaked my product settings. with 08 I've decided to jump into the Cornellverse to start with. I didn't want to start my own promoiton since so many of the workers are over extended anyway with the amount of companies their working for. I settled on USPW because I see them as a WCW type promotion before they got mainstream. They have a lot of aging stars of yesteryear with just a few young gems in place. so looking over my roster I see I have James Justice, Bruce the Giant, and others that are at or pushing 40. Since I'm trying to do this the "legit" way I didn't mess with the editor so Caulfield and Devine are gone right out of the gate. That leaves me in my mind Nicky Champion as the go to guy for future stardom. I've also noticed that I have almost zero tag division in place. I'm not sure I made a smart move as I went out and purchased some guys like Hell Monkey, Bulldozer Brandon Smith, The Dirty White boys, the Mcwade brothers, combined with the likes of Velocidad, Acid, Steve Flash, Mainstream Hernandez and Champagne Lover. So I guess my question is I know guys like Flash, Acid, Brandon Smith and Hell Monkey are good pick ups. The rest though I'm not so sure of, I was hoping to get a cruiserweight division in place and raid a lot of Mexico ala Bischoff. However I'm not sure that product will get over in USPW. My thinking right now is that Justice and Bruce the Giant are going to have to build up a lot of these guys. Nicky Champoin I want to be the man in a years time. Give him big wins over the likes of Peter Valentine, T Rex and some other higher ups before placing him in a feud with James. Do any of these moves or plans make sense or am I going about USPW all wrong? any hlep would be appreciated.

[Gigas]

[QUOTE=Stennick;447111] so looking over my roster I see I have James Justice, Bruce the Giant, and others that are at or pushing 40. Since I'm trying to do this the "legit" way I didn't mess with the editor so Caulfield and Devine are gone right out of the gate. That leaves me in my mind Nicky Champion as the go to guy for future stardom. [/QUOTE] Using a non aggression pact is legit. No need for the editor.

[Eisen-verse]

[QUOTE]The rest though I'm not so sure of, I was hoping to get a cruiserweight division in place and raid a lot of Mexico ala Bischoff. However I'm not sure that product will get over in USPW.[/QUOTE] I remember in past games you could still get people over no matter what kind of wrestler they were.... However, some products made it harder for you to do so. If it's the same with this game then I'm sure a Cruiserweight division could possibly go well... however, it won't pay off right away.

[d_w_w]

Your plans are fine. But to be honest, I'd start over and follow Gigas advice. First, sign the non-aggression pact with the SWF. This will keep Caulfield and Devine on your roster. Next, I'd consider making a working agreement pact with the TCW. You can use Valentine and Redwood to bring in surprisingly good workers and, well, it will prevent TCW from signing your talent down the road. After that, I'd say that it's a good idea to sign the luchas and super juniors. And if Sam Strong lets you change the product, it's not cheating. You'll just have to do it slowly, over time.

[Stennick]

Thanks for the tips guys. Any advice on the tag division. I got the Dirty White Boys and The McWade brothers but I don't know too many more top tier tag teams out there that I can grab.

[d_w_w]

The tag division is tricky. The McWades and, I think, the Dirty White Boys are both pretty popular and are almost "too over" to hold the belts. I'm not sure what the consequences are of having someone hold a belt lower than them, though - so it might not matter. If you are going to bring in some luchadors, it couldn't hurt to make a lucha tag team or two. In my USPW game, I use: The Towers of Power (Muscles and Rushmore) heels Savage Fury (Java and Tribal Warrior) heels The Pouncing Predators (Fox Mask and Masked Cougar) face The Tokyo Express (Fumihiro Ota and Kazuma Narato) heel (too high on the card atm, so they are mostly doing singles) New Blood (Darryl Devine and Des Davids) - my current face champions. I dropped Captain USA, so no longer have the Forces of America. I signed Primus Allen when he debuted and tried him in a match with Puerto Rican Power. Turns out, they have great chemistry... now to give them a name.

[Eisen-verse]

I just started a new game with USPW after talking it over with peeps on the boards here and for one thing.. I'm shocked that Sam Strong let me adjust as much as I did. The last game he would block even the slightest thing I wanted to do. All in all, I dropped TV down to 70%. Added Very Low to Cult, Modern, and hardcore to kind of give the company at least a very small "edge". And then brought up "Realism" to low so that it seemed a little more legit than over the top cartoons. I was shocked Strong let me do it, but after reading this forum post I knew I wanted to push some smaller workers in the ranks to.. All in all, Make USPW a more well rounded product so that others can succeed just as much. EDIT: Edited what I set my levels at as I adjusted them since I first posted.

[Gigas]

sam strong will let you adjust even more than that. I usually up modern to medium in USPW.

[1PWfan]

[QUOTE=d_w_w;447184]I signed Primus Allen when he debuted and tried him in a match with Puerto Rican Power. Turns out, they have great chemistry... now to give them a name.[/QUOTE] How's about The Colossus Connection? Sounds good to me As for USPW, I've tried playing as them before, and it's fun (if a touch challenging), and I usually sigh Eric Tyler to re-run the Caulfield/Tyler feud (it's a very USPW sorta move) as well as the DWB and The McWades. After that you need to start looking down the ladder. As for a cruiserweight division, to me it doesn't seem very USPW to me, but hey, it's a good idea so why not?

[Ping von Erich]

I like being as legit 80's sports entertainment as possible.. with all my signings being able to fit in generic gimmick molds. Vin Tanner in his new German gimmick is a must have for USPW. As are The DWB's and the McWades.. bikers and lumberjacks. Just think about USPW as though a crowd for of 8 year old were watching. I love being as authentic to the original product as possible.

[cappyboy]

[QUOTE=Stennick;447111] with 08 I've decided to jump into the Cornellverse to start with. I didn't want to start my own promoiton since so many of the workers are over extended anyway with the amount of companies their working for. I settled on USPW because I see them as a WCW type promotion before they got mainstream. They have a lot of aging stars of yesteryear with just a few young gems in place. [/QUOTE] I'll go one step further than that. I see USPW as part of the reason Adam doesn't make it possible to play as a development fed. Playing as USPW is essentially doing that already. You have a bunch of old guys to leech overness from and young guys to train up. So until you get to national with USPW, you basically are a freelance developmental. [QUOTE=Stennick;447111]so looking over my roster I see I have James Justice, Bruce the Giant, and others that are at or pushing 40. Since I'm trying to do this the "legit" way I didn't mess with the editor so Caulfield and Devine are gone right out of the gate. That leaves me in my mind Nicky Champion as the go to guy for future stardom. [/QUOTE] Which is probably how Strong sees things anyway. Folks will suggest working agreements with the big two to shield Caulfield and Devine. Which may be just as well. But really I can only find it in my heart to want Caulfield. I know Devine has softball skills as far as using him to get over. But he's so brittle I can't seem to find the interest in doing that. And while it may not technically be, it feels cheap shoehorning him into a commentary or young manager's type position. [QUOTE=Stennick;447111]I've also noticed that I have almost zero tag division in place. [/QUOTE] Holy understatement Batman. When you have three full time teams and the most appealing of the lot are The Towers of Power, that's a tag division in name only. Forget the almost. You HAVE no tag division to start off with in USPW. [QUOTE=Stennick;447111]I'm not sure I made a smart move as I went out and purchased some guys like Hell Monkey, Bulldozer Brandon Smith, The Dirty White boys, the Mcwade brothers, combined with the likes of Velocidad, Acid, Steve Flash, Mainstream Hernandez and Champagne Lover. [/QUOTE] Well if you want to get past this feeling of being a de facto developmental in a hurry, you are pretty much left without a choice. You essentially have to do a purge and replace to get a presentable roster together. [QUOTE=Stennick;447111]So I guess my question is I know guys like Flash, Acid, Brandon Smith and Hell Monkey are good pick ups. The rest though I'm not so sure of, I was hoping to get a cruiserweight division in place and raid a lot of Mexico ala Bischoff. However I'm not sure that product will get over in USPW. My thinking right now is that Justice and Bruce the Giant are going to have to build up a lot of these guys. Nicky Champoin I want to be the man in a years time. Give him big wins over the likes of Peter Valentine, T Rex and some other higher ups before placing him in a feud with James. Do any of these moves or plans make sense or am I going about USPW all wrong? any hlep would be appreciated. [/QUOTE] Personally, I don't think you can really afford to go doing a cruiserweight divsion in USPW and the reason why has little to do with whether the product will support or not. As long as they being more 80's style cruiserweights with quick chain wrestling and rope-based flying moves rather than full on modern daredevils, they should be right up your product's alley. The speedball style will be eaten up by your kiddies. No, your problem with doing a cruiserweight division is Alicia Strong. Daddy's set up the women's division to be her platform for stardom. Therefore you pretty much have to run that division to keep the Strong family happy. That being the case, it would be very difficult to run both the women's division to feature Alicia as needed and do a cruiser division the way it would be accepted in USPW. Your typical women's wrestler and your 80's speedball essentially serve the same function from an in-ring perspective. The speedball guys might be easier to get mega-over because they'd lack the sexist mental block the women's division brings. But since Alicia's on the roster and needs a stage, your die is cast with the women. So really your best bet that I can see with them is to put them in the tag division and prep them to be the mighty mites of the company. Sort of like the push Rey Mysterio has gotten since hitting the Big Two in America.

[Jennie Bomb]

I'd say you should try and sign at least J-Ro and Wanda Fish to help with your women's division. It doesn't start very deep and given Alicia's skills and the fact that you'll have her on the roster no matter what, you might as well put effort into making it as successful as you can.

[fastlane269]

Definitely, I'd also say you should try developing Kate Lilly. I've gotten her to be one of the best wrestlers on my roster period. Including the men. She's actually right behind Sean McFly in the ring general category. Her random potential might have been set to excellent in my game though so that could just be luck.