Internet distribution

[James Casey]

Okay, so using the Internet to put your shows out worldwide was a Godsend in 07, as it could put you at 30% worldwide if you stuck with it. In 08, though, it seems to do nothing. Do you have to get a certain show grade for the shows to have any effect? It doesn't even seem to keep popularity levels up, as I've lost the meagre gains I made running a couple of shows outside my home area. is it linked to the economy/industry maybe? Mine are D/falling and F/Rising in the States at the moment - and everywehere except Australis is in pretty dire straits. But even in Australia I have zero popularity after fifteen online broadcasts. Should I go back to DVDs of my shows? It might only bring in an extra $20 a month or so, but if the Internet does nothing for me, I might as well have the cash.

[eayragt]

[QUOTE=James Casey;448006]Okay, so using the Internet to put your shows out worldwide was a Godsend in 07, as it could put you at 30% worldwide if you stuck with it.[/QUOTE] I believe there was a misconception about how Internet distribution worked in 07, that it was as simple as above. I also believe it was based on your popularity (ie if your popularity is only 15%, there's no way that the Internet is going to get your popularity anywhere near 30% across the world). So the main question is - how popular is your promotion currently where it's based? Another question could be does Australia have the Internet yet, but that's a little tongue in cheek :rolleyes:.

[Michael Wayne]

[QUOTE=James Casey;448006]Okay, so using the Internet to put your shows out worldwide was a Godsend in 07, as it could put you at 30% worldwide if you stuck with it. In 08, though, it seems to do nothing. Do you have to get a certain show grade for the shows to have any effect? It doesn't even seem to keep popularity levels up, as I've lost the meagre gains I made running a couple of shows outside my home area. is it linked to the economy/industry maybe? Mine are D/falling and F/Rising in the States at the moment - and everywehere except Australis is in pretty dire straits. But even in Australia I have zero popularity after fifteen online broadcasts. Should I go back to DVDs of my shows? It might only bring in an extra $20 a month or so, but if the Internet does nothing for me, I might as well have the cash.[/QUOTE] you have to put on good shows to gain popularity. It worked the same way in 07. If you're putting on crappy shows, of course you won't gain anything.

[Malioc]

[QUOTE=Michael Wayne;448026]you have to put on good shows to gain popularity. It worked the same way in 07. If you're putting on crappy shows, of course you won't gain anything.[/QUOTE] No. It doesn't work that way. When you don't do additional shows in other areas, the whole effect dissolves. At first your popularity goes up a bit. But after a while, everything falls back down to "0", regardless of the quality of your shows. I put on B and B- shows all the time, but I can't even reach 0.2% anymore, while my D shows brought me up over 3.6% at the beginning. At some point it went back down and is down since then. I don't know, if it's a bug or the Internet is programmed as a more or less useless tool. But as long as you don't actually hold show, you can forget about more than 0.1% overness in the rest of the world. - Personally I find that very unrealistic though.

[Actarus]

[QUOTE=Malioc;448125]No. It doesn't work that way. When you don't do additional shows in other areas, the whole effect dissolves. At first your popularity goes up a bit. But after a while, everything falls back down to "0", regardless of the quality of your shows. I put on B and B- shows all the time, but I can't even reach 0.2% anymore, while my D shows brought me up over 3.6% at the beginning. At some point it went back down and is down since then. I don't know, if it's a bug or the Internet is programmed as a more or less useless tool. But as long as you don't actually hold show, you can forget about more than 0.1% overness in the rest of the world. - Personally I find that very unrealistic though.[/QUOTE] Hmmm...this is interesting, because I'm getting a different experience. I have took a local fed to small, and have been also been using internet distribution. Usually, one of two things happens per show: - a gain of 0.2% in all other regions - nothing...no gain or loss in said regions (presumably because the show I held wasn't highly rated enough to warrant a change) I've yet to LOSE overness via internet distribution, (i.e. it doesn't fall back to zero) so I'm curious as to why people are getting different experiences.

[SuperOwens]

I was about to start a thread on this to find out if it needed to go in the tech forum as a bug. I've started my own company having 0 pop n all regions based in the tri state. When doing the same thing in 07 and using internet distribution, it was possible to make a 0.2 gain in all areas with a good show until hitting 15% In 08 I sometimes get a increase in the areas only for it to fall back to 0. This is running D+ shows. Can anybody confirm if this is the way internet is supposed to work?

[Hyde Hill]

I think its because you dont visit the areas att all in order to maintian your popularity in that region e.g with house shows if you can or running normal shows. Internet distribution is now mainly to expand beyond and increase your spillover effect. My advice choose other regions to hold your show where you want to expand to and hold shows there. Its Mainly usefull when you are at least regional.

[SuperOwens]

[QUOTE=Hyde Hill;448283]I think its because you dont visit the areas att all in order to maintian your popularity in that region e.g with house shows if you can or running normal shows. Internet distribution is now mainly to expand beyond and increase your spillover effect. My advice choose other regions to hold your show where you want to expand to and hold shows there. Its Mainly usefull when you are at least regional.[/QUOTE] Surely the point of the internet option was to increase popularity in regions other than your home region without the need to visit them? I cant see an advantage of using the net in 08. You may as well stick with the extra cash from dvd sales and promote in different areas. What does the internet option give you? You lose dvd sales and still have to promote in other areas? Perhaps if you promote in other areas as well as using the internet option - you receive a pop bonus? Clarification would be good

[Hyde Hill]

It gives you a base popularity in those regions for when you want to start visiting them. Meaning your shows wont tank as fast and will draw more people. Ok its not "realistic" but thats the game mechanics at the moment. Orde of busniss using internet 1. you want to expand beyond your home region/spillover region and or want to increase pop in spill over region. 2 wait till ya get maximum pop in the region your targeting before it drops down again 3 visit the region. 4. keep visiting region before it goes down again. 5 one more region where youre popular and will spillover to other regions. For instance US based promotion in South west with pop there of 20 rest 0 puts on internet shows pop evrywhere rises to 10 percent, then holds show in Tri State area. Pop maintains there. ALternates between South west and Tri State holding Shows. Pop wil rise there and spillover to nearby regions thus reaching most of the country. Cult and National here we come! Same aplies for going from national to international quicker. Trick is to choose the other region and time your first visit there, otherwise go for the money.