Gigas Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 is there any reason 2 wrestlers with B+ psychology and great chemistry get the note "this match lacked psychology?" Is it a bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kehi7 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 What were your road agent notes?? maybe that had something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Just to have someone win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Was the match incredibly short or incredibly long? I'm just guessing... Also, if you've got 2 workers with B+ or higher psychology, I'd definitely use "Call in Ring". (Added hint: If you'd got 2 workers with under C psychology, use "Script Match".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Lucrativo Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I've had poor chemistry notes on matches I didn't expect to receive them for, also, so I've wondered the same thing. For me, running TCW, the notes have only appeared for PPV matches. Wolf Hawkins, with a B- psychology rating, has gotten the note that the match "really suffered from lack of psychology; it could have really used somebody with the knowledge of how to construct a proper flow" for every PPV singles match he's wrestled for me to this point. He's been wrestling other workers with psychology ratings in the B range, including Joey Minnesota and Acid. I did a small bit of experimenting, and the chemistry note came up for the same match regardless of whether I gave a script road agent note, a call in ring road agent note, or neither of the two. I also though it might have something to do with the length of the match in question, but even when I shortened it to 10 to 12 minutes the note still appeared. I've never seen the note in a non-PPV match, and neither have I seen it for a match not including at least one main-eventer. So I made the guess that the game wants someone with higher than B level psychology in a main-event type match on a PPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [QUOTE=mjdgoldeneye;448169]Was the match incredibly short or incredibly long? I'm just guessing... Also, if you've got 2 workers with B+ or higher psychology, I'd definitely use "Call in Ring". (Added hint: If you'd got 2 workers with under C psychology, use "Script Match".)[/QUOTE] Actually, you only need one worker in the ring with good psych. He'll call the shots and the other person just has to take his cues. For tag team matches you need someone with good psyche on both sides so that you don't get two crappy workers in the ring who don't know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castorius Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [QUOTE=Gigas;448136]is there any reason 2 wrestlers with B+ psychology and great chemistry get the note "this match lacked psychology?" Is it a bug?[/QUOTE] My guess would be that just because two workers have good psychology, it doesn't mean that the match is guaranteed to have good psychology. Think of it, like a random occurrence. I'm not sure about this, but I would think that if two workers had good psychology, then there is a "better" chance that the match will have good psychology, but its not guaranteed. It merely increases their chances, but does not insure it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 [QUOTE=praguepride;448209]Actually, you only need one worker in the ring with good psych. He'll call the shots and the other person just has to take his cues. For tag team matches you need someone with good psyche on both sides so that you don't get two crappy workers in the ring who don't know what to do.[/QUOTE] Hmmm... And Steve Flash becomes even more useful! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Lucrativo Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 After playing a bit more, whatever psychology problem I'm having seems to center around Wolf Hawkins. I get psychology related notes for his matches all the time. I'm consistently getting the "definite lack of psychology" road agent note for a TV match between Hawkins and Dan Stone Jr, who has an A in psychology, no matter what road agent notes I input. I ran the same card 5 or 6 times, altering only the road agent notes for that match, and got the psychology note each time. If anyone has any idea why Hawkins' matches would consistently suffer from lack of psychology no matter who he is wrestling or what road agent notes I give him, I'd love to hear it . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I've had this problem on pay per views mainly, such as in my most recent Remo vs. Bruce main event (both men have a B- and I used the script road agent note). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanreao Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 My only bit of advice is if you use the script note is to make sure the road agent has good psychology too, otherwise it won't help at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 The ones I use have either A or A* psychology so that can't be an issue :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 [QUOTE=Lt. Lucrativo;448380]If anyone has any idea why Hawkins' matches would consistently suffer from lack of psychology no matter who he is wrestling or what road agent notes I give him, I'd love to hear it . . .[/QUOTE] How long are these matches that you're booking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHUK Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Maybe it's his lack of experience? I know experience played a part in the WreSpi series, maybe it's used as a hidden stat in TEW08 but based on age rather than an editable stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritwik Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 [QUOTE=alanreao;448536]My only bit of advice is if you use the script note is to make sure the road agent has good psychology too, otherwise it won't help at all.[/QUOTE] I think its probably an unskilled road agent who is causing this problem. Remember road agents are rated on both psychology AND respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 my road agent is A* in respect, A* in pscyhology. Its my user character. Ive also had A psychology guys get the same thing when wrestler with a B rating or whatever. Maybe its a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Lucrativo Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 [QUOTE=eayragt;448656]How long are these matches that you're booking?[/QUOTE] Anywhere from 12 minutes to 25 minutes or so. I don't think the length has any effect, as that is one of the factors I've tried changing. Unless for some reason Dan Jr can't lead Hawkins through a 12 minute match without getting lost--which seems strange. My TCW road agents are strong, as well, so I can't imagine that they're causing the problem. I really have no idea what's causing the poor psychology note to appear. That said, however, it's not like Wolf's wrestling poorly-rated matches. He's pretty consistently in the B+ to A range (against other strong workers) even as he's consistently getting "lack of psychology" notes. So whatever penalty the matches are getting doesn't seem to be a huge one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Yeah, the match between the 2 wrestlers received an A and got the great chemistry note. It also got the "this match drifted at times due to the lack of psychology" or whatever the message is, I dont remember it word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Did this ever get reported to tech support? I discovered a similar odd 'lack of flow' message with workers that had high enough psych to not warrant it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 i never reported it, so feel free to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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