Relating to TCW... So is there something im missing?

[Macca316]

Ok so in every game i have started with TCW i end up dropping to cult, now i dont mind this its part of the game and i cal deal with that mainly its my own fault the first two or three games were poor booking on my part. now my main game thats lasted just over 5 months and i was getting into a nice grove and rolling with some good ideas just recently crashed and burned, dropped to cult and the moment you do that ho ho ratings warnings and you lose the tv deal. being that my show summary usually gets around a -B which for a int fed is pretty good and my road agent summarys are usually "no comments to be made about this show" my question is what in the world am i doing wrong. what more apart from virtual blood sweat and selling my soul to the TEW Devil do i need to do to get TCW gaining popularity and not falling to cult every time?

[Frank_Vest]

I would like to echo this question, as I am having the same experience.

[Irish Wolf]

The road agent notes on say it helped or hindered if the overall there is a gain or a loss. Just because you get no message does not mean you haven't gained and lost popularity in certain areas. Now if you are running a B- it it brings you down to regions where you are over even while brining you up in regions that you aren't you may lose just enough to fall a level. TCW is on this precarious edge at the beginning of the game where one wrong move and your at cult. It makes TCW one of the hardest feds to play with at this point.

[Macca316]

[QUOTE=Apupunchau@optonline;448613]The road agent notes on say it helped or hindered if the overall there is a gain or a loss. Just because you get no message does not mean you haven't gained and lost popularity in certain areas. Now if you are running a B- it it brings you down to regions where you are over even while brining you up in regions that you aren't you may lose just enough to fall a level. TCW is on this precarious edge at the beginning of the game where one wrong move and your at cult. It makes TCW one of the hardest feds to play with at this point.[/QUOTE] i understand where your coming from and without sounding in anyway rude to you sir i had worked that part out TCW is a very picky fed to start with. now with the mechanics out of the way how do we get past this, is there some hints or tips for booking TCW you might be able to share with us?

[Actarus]

Firstly, the depth in this strategy game is such that the mechanics are really never out of the way, and you're always learning something new about the game. Okay, now that that's out of the way, let's try this then: The following is post #12 from Adam's journal. [QUOTE]#12: Location Prestige Coming over from WMMA, albeit with a slight change, is the location prestige feature. Every region of the game is given its own prestige; this is a measure of how important it is in the game world, so traditional wrestling hotbeds like the Tri State region would be very prestigious, whereas somewhere with very little history like Scotland would have a fairly low prestige. Prestige is used in deciding a promotion's size. So if you were 80% popular in a 50% prestige region, that counts as 40% Prestige Points (80 x 50%). These are then used in the size calculations (i.e. "you need to get 25% Prestige Points in one region to reach Small size", etc). Don't worry if that sounds complex, there is an on-screen display that shows you exactly what is going on, you don't need to do any maths yourself. This feature adds more strategy to the game, as it means that not every region is as "valuable" as the others.[/QUOTE] Do you understand how this feature works, and how much it impacts strategizing where you hold your shows? It's more then just assuming: "Oh, Tri State is 100% importance, so it's my most important region." In fact, depending on how much overness you have in each and every region, the most important regions FOR YOU AND YOUR PROMOTION may be elsewhere. You may be holding shows in regions where you don't need to, to get to the next size (i.e. you already have the required overness in that region), and simultaneously losing overness in regions far more important to you. This could be the absolute difference maker in rising and falling. For example, because I know how this feature works, using SWF, I know exactly which region to concentrate on (hint: it's outside of North America) to get them to global in no time.

[takertitan]

its an overal rating from the road agents. If you gained/stayed the same in 3/4 of the country but lost in a few key regions, then you will fall to cult.

[Eisen-verse]

[QUOTE] This could be the absolute difference maker in rising and falling. For example, because I know how this feature works, using SWF, I know exactly which region to concentrate on (hint: it's outside of North America) to get them to global in no time.[/QUOTE] By actually holding shows there or just signing PPV deals in their area & TV shows as well?

[Hyde Hill]

Hold Shows fist month then get tv show and ppv deal and hold house shows there. worked a charm for me.

[Hyde Hill]

Oh maybe forgot to ad this doo not forget to hold house shows in puerto rico and hawaii as you wont be going there with your normal shows and hawaii isnt covered by the tv. These two have a low importance level so a drop in popularity there wil get you to lower then e+ importance quick wich means you fall to cult.

[The Shape]

[QUOTE=Actarus;448622]For example, because I know how this feature works, using SWF, I know exactly which region to concentrate on (hint: it's outside of North America) to get them to global in no time.[/QUOTE] Uh, care to help a guy out? ;) I'm getting workers over globally at an alarming pace (most regulars + Richard Eisen have leapt over a whole grade in every region outside of the USA) but not experienced much change to company overness itself apart from a drop from B+ to B in USA near the start.

[Macca316]

now im really lost guys. so your telling me that me dropping down to cult aint cos i am booking bad shows? gosh do i feel bad for getting angry at Rahn and Baine for no reason :(

[Actarus]

[QUOTE=Eisen-verse;448625]By actually holding shows there or just signing PPV deals in their area & TV shows as well?[/QUOTE] You COULD hold shows there, but you don't have to; SWF already has a TV deal in that area, so all you need to get is a PPV deal there, which you can do from day 1. Unlike TV carriers, you can negotiate with PPV carriers 12 / 12 months of the year. [QUOTE=The Shape;448632]Uh, care to help a guy out? ;) I'm getting workers over globally at an alarming pace (most regulars + Richard Eisen have leapt over a whole grade in every region outside of the USA) but not experienced much change to company overness itself apart from a drop from B+ to B in USA near the start.[/QUOTE] Well, if your location is accurate, I'd say in your neck of the woods. There's a particular region there that if you get the overness high enough (and assuming you've maintained everything else), SWF should go global. Now, let's get back to TCW.

[Frank_Vest]

[QUOTE=Hyde Hill;448628]Hold Shows fist month then get tv show and ppv deal and hold house shows there. worked a charm for me.[/QUOTE] Hold house shows where? All the US locations?

[Superkevd]

I'm not sure about the mechanics of importance and what not but I have used TCW and after a few months I fell to cult status BUT I am 20 days off returning to the big time(my importance and popularity have all went way up) I did this by: - changing my product a little in that i now have a match/angle ratio of 70/30 which allows you to take advantage to your guys good entertainment skills. -Using more storylines(I find you hurt peoples popularity less with feuds that follow a storyline than just using your own initiative). -Pushing more talented workers and only using the most popular guys(this allows you to use longer segments that are highly rated). -Using multi singles main events more often(allows you to keep high rated highly anticipated matches whilst keeping feuds fresh) I feel as if i started a new game now I'd never need to fall to cult as my shows are consistently aT least B+ altho my workers are more popular as from when i started so I guess it'd be harder to produce the same level of shows.

[Hyde Hill]

[QUOTE=Frank_Vest;448670]Hold house shows where? All the US locations?[/QUOTE] Ok As TCW the country your aiming for is Japan and Mexico. USA and Canada are pretty solid because of the TV show get PPV for Mexico, Canada and improve the size of your ppv deal in the USA. Hold House shows in Puerto Rico, Hawaii, All of Mexico and All of Canada plus the 2 major Japanese regions. Hold regular (non) tv shows in the 2 most important Japanese regions Kinki and Kyoso out of top of my head and the 2 Mexican region you get no tv in e.g. South Eastern and West Central. Should get you to International within 2 months if ya keep doing B- to B shows. First tv expansion go for Japan J network East will accept negotiations take the early evening saturday slot and you are Golden. Now Switch House Shows to Hawaii Puerto Rico and all Mexico all Japan and all Canada. with 4 house shows you will be able to visit once a month. And Hold your non tv show events in West central and South Eastern Mexico. For the rest rotate your tv shows taping location between 8 of the left over 9 us regions and hold your ppv in the us region where you have highest popularity (south west). I think many people forget to visit regions often enough and so they automaticly fall down to under e+ importance, mainly hawaii and lesser so puerto rico. Using the first part you will expand pretty quick and if ya remember to rotate the regions and house show puerto rico and hawaii you wont drop to cult as long as ya keep churning out at least b- or above rated shows.

[Hyde Hill]

Sorry for the bad english and the lack of commas, kept thinking of extra things to ad.

[Frank_Vest]

[QUOTE=Hyde Hill;448764]Ok As TCW the country your aiming for is Japan and Mexico. USA and Canada are pretty solid because of the TV show get PPV for Mexico, Canada and improve the size of your ppv deal in the USA. Hold House shows in Puerto Rico, Hawaii, All of Mexico and All of Canada plus the 2 major Japanese regions. Hold regular (non) tv shows in the 2 most important Japanese regions Kinki and Kyoso out of top of my head and the 2 Mexican region you get no tv in e.g. South Eastern and West Central. Should get you to International within 2 months if ya keep doing B- to B shows. First tv expansion go for Japan J network East will accept negotiations take the early evening saturday slot and you are Golden. Now Switch House Shows to Hawaii Puerto Rico and all Mexico all Japan and all Canada. with 4 house shows you will be able to visit once a month. And Hold your non tv show events in West central and South Eastern Mexico. For the rest rotate your tv shows taping location between 8 of the left over 9 us regions and hold your ppv in the us region where you have highest popularity (south west). I think many people forget to visit regions often enough and so they automaticly fall down to under e+ importance, mainly hawaii and lesser so puerto rico. Using the first part you will expand pretty quick and if ya remember to rotate the regions and house show puerto rico and hawaii you wont drop to cult as long as ya keep churning out at least b- or above rated shows.[/QUOTE] Thanks! Just so I am clear: For the first month: Get a deal with a better US PPV carrier Get a deal with a Canadian and Mexican PPV carrier Set your house shows to Puerto Rico, Hawaii, All of Mexico and All of Canada and the two major Japanese regions Hold non-televised events in Japan (Kinki and Kyoso) and Mexico (SE and WC) The second month: Get a TV deal with Japan J Network East (early evening Staurday) Switch house shows to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, all of Mexico, all of Japan and all of Canada Hold your TV tapings in 8 of the left over 9 US regions (question about this below) Hold non-televised events in West Central and South East Mexico Hold PPV in the South West My questions are: How often should I hold non-televised events? Where should I concentrate my TV tapings in Month 1? When you say 8 of the 9 leftover US regions (2nd month), which one is not leftover?

[Macca316]

im still really confused by all of this chaps.

[Macca316]

im still really confused by all of this chaps. can we dumb it down so i can understand it lol

[HHUK]

[QUOTE=Frank_Vest;448783]Thanks! Just so I am clear: For the first month: Get a deal with a better US PPV carrier Get a deal with a Canadian and Mexican PPV carrier Set your house shows to Puerto Rico, Hawaii, All of Mexico and All of Canada and the two major Japanese regions Hold non-televised events in Japan (Kinki and Kyoso) and Mexico (SE and WC) The second month: Get a TV deal with Japan J Network East (early evening Staurday) Switch house shows to Hawaii, Puerto Rico, all of Mexico, all of Japan and all of Canada Hold your TV tapings in 8 of the left over 9 US regions (question about this below) Hold non-televised events in West Central and South East Mexico Hold PPV in the South West My questions are: How often should I hold non-televised events? Where should I concentrate my TV tapings in Month 1? When you say 8 of the 9 leftover US regions (2nd month), which one is not leftover?[/QUOTE] My approach was quite different.. I got PPV deals in every place (apart from Australia) and a B show in USA (which doesn't count for popularity) and only focused on the areas I was weak in within the United States, following up with a few shows in my weakest places in Canada. I got to International after 2-3 months. My house shows only rotated around USA (and eventually Canada), starting with my weakest areas.

[Bigpapa42]

The only way to get a better PPV deal in the US is to cancel the current one, correct? That seems risky...

[Hyde Hill]

More TCW My questions are: How often should I hold non-televised events? Where should I concentrate my TV tapings in Month 1? When you say 8 of the 9 leftover US regions (2nd month), which one is not leftover?[/QUOTE] I did em once a week so that the max amount of times you visit is 2 times a month as not to blow the region out. Concentrate your TV tapings in month 1 in 4 of the 9 not south west month 2 other 4 of the 9 not south west. So long as you rotate your fine. 11 us regions minus puerto rico and hawaii gives 9. Save south west voor ppv income max. Got a ´B´ show to to get my talented workers over faster. Canceling a ppv contract isnt a risk as you can renegotiate with the same one again if the bigger ones fail. Just have em all in place before your first ppv I asnt able to get ppv in Europe, UK and Australia yet. Thanks should look into that. Got to international after first ppv swf went global after second month:( .But the idiots forgot to extend their american tv deal!!!:eek: .Cult here they go hehehe:) Cant wait to pillige all their talent hehe. For the one that doesn´t understand what part dont you? Then i could explain better. I personally think Frank summed it up very well.

[CubsFan915]

[QUOTE=Hyde Hill;448630]hawaii isnt covered by the tv. [/QUOTE] I noticed this, too. Is this an error, or is it intentional? I've never been to Hawaii, but don't they share the same major networks (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, ESPN, etc.) as the mainland does?

[Franchise22]

go to editor....tweak pop a bit.....ever so slightly..... to avoid the quick drop to cult.....in the beginning of the game.....

[Guerrerofan777]

[QUOTE=The Shape;448632]Uh, care to help a guy out? ;) I'm getting workers over globally at an alarming pace (most regulars + Richard Eisen have leapt over a whole grade in every region outside of the USA) but not experienced much change to company overness itself apart from a drop from B+ to B in USA near the start.[/QUOTE] From my personal experience, I think he's talking about Northern Mexico, most of SWF's main eventers have at least C+ pop in all of Mexico, and I got a B down in Northern Mexico and was in the brink of going Global, I eventually reached it after expanding my tv and PPV. Hold a show in Northern Mexico from the get go and things will get much easier, of course, don't forget to use the Main Eventers, my undercard bombed. Regarding TCW, I've fallen to Cult as well, and I think that's great because it actually motivates me to keep playing with WC...erm...TCW and raise them to National again. My advice is to be patient, extend your PPV before you drop (if you can), and keep playing until the cool down period is over. I almost went straight from Cult to International in right after the cool down period ended!