cappyboy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Got the thread going to give the lovable lumps of the CVerse their respect. Now lets go the other direction. Who do you see in the data that would be generally deemed as talent but you just can't get into? For me one man comes to mind if you put this question to me. Darryl Devine. I don't deny he's got solid wrestling skills. Or that he can work the mic until he's blue in the face. Or even that the camera loves him. But the poor schmuck seems to be made out of porcelain. Despite all his skills that fragility gives me night horrors about putting him in the ring. Yet he's so skilled between the ropes, I feel cheap limiting him to personality work. He's too valuable to lose and too brittle to feel comfortable keeping. Whenever I go to play USPW, Devine drives me up the bloody wall. Do I let him get stolen out from under me and expose Caulfield to being lost as well? Or do I make the pacts to protect Caulfield and try to puzzle out Devine? The guy is such a dilemma for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dPro Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I don't know about the "should" part, but mine probably is Skull DeBones/Vengeance. The guy seems to me (not the gimmick, off course) like a Batista kind of guy - big, overrated jerk that can't seem to do anything well. (This coming from a big Cena fan! :D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 The one guy I should like but always have troubles pushing is Steve Frehely. There doesn't seem to be really anything all that special about the guy, however, he's seen as being a "big time future player". He ends up wrestling in upper midcard feuds mostly... All in all, He strikes me like a SCSA kind of character is some ways so I might try to do that with him and see if it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Des Davids, Nicky Champion fall into the same Darryl Devine category for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 mickey james as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Jungle Jack. He is right up my alley on type of worker, big strong brawler, thats my main thing is I like guys who brawl, but I hire just about everyone. Jack though, Ive hired him before but I just never get behind him and push, he just drifts till I consider him dead weight and fire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Barry Kingman. He's just so... Lance Storm. Yeah, he's a decent technician, he's decent in the air, he's decent at brawling, he's not terrible on the microphone, but he's just... there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregano Jensen Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [QUOTE=dPro;451849]I don't know about the "should" part, but mine probably is Skull DeBones/Vengeance. The guy seems to me (not the gimmick, off course) like a Batista kind of guy - big, overrated jerk that can't seem to do anything well. (This coming from a big Cena fan! :D)[/QUOTE] Surely he's more of an Undertaker kind of guy?... not that that's THAT different in terms of ring style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takertitan Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [QUOTE=Oregano Jensen;451869]Surely he's more of an Undertaker kind of guy?... not that that's THAT different in terms of ring style.[/QUOTE] yeah, 1 is good, 1 is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dPro Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [QUOTE=Oregano Jensen;451869]Surely he's more of an Undertaker kind of guy?... not that that's THAT different in terms of ring style.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I know he's an Undertaker kind of character. What I meant was that I get the same feeling from Vengeance as I do form Batista. That is "OMG I'm so tired of this guy! Won't you please just push Mr. Kennedy instead!?" EDIT: I do like him better in 08 than in 07 though. But I'm still not loving the guy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dPro Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 [QUOTE=takertitan;451878]yeah, 1 is good, 1 is not.[/QUOTE] touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricAdams Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Im' running CZCW and it's Fox Mask. He's Mr. CZCW and all but I just can't fathom putting the belt on him again. He's the worst of the masked workers in CZCW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufas2000 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Rick Law. I just hate his pic. But I turn him heel and I feel better. Liberty: Always wanted to fire him before 08 in TCW but I needed his overness. Aaron Andrews: I just cant seem to wrap my mind around how to push him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipshirt Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;451861]The one guy I should like but always have troubles pushing is Steve Frehely. There doesn't seem to be really anything all that special about the guy, however, he's seen as being a "big time future player". He ends up wrestling in upper midcard feuds mostly... All in all, He strikes me like a SCSA kind of character is some ways so I might try to do that with him and see if it works out.[/QUOTE] Bingo, I'm the same way about Frehley. I would also add Rocky Golden to the list. I love me some Darryl Devine though...I book him like Shawn Michaels in the 90's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=dPro;451849]I don't know about the "should" part, but mine probably is Skull DeBones/Vengeance. The guy seems to me (not the gimmick, off course) like a Batista kind of guy - big, overrated jerk that can't seem to do anything well.[/QUOTE] As cheesy as I think the mask is the guy can work a match, gets solid Bs/B+s for me depending on opposition. [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;451861]The one guy I should like but always have troubles pushing is Steve Frehely. There doesn't seem to be really anything all that special about the guy, however, he's seen as being a "big time future player". He ends up wrestling in upper midcard feuds mostly... All in all, He strikes me like a SCSA kind of character is some ways so I might try to do that with him and see if it works out.[/QUOTE] Same here I don't really know what to do with him. He kinda floated around being the fairly big name to bring in when another face presence was needed but his overness was through the roof (A* across america) so I put him in a short feud with Vengeance which he came out second best. Now once again I'm stuck for what to do, he still wrestles and appears a lot just with no real direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Dermot O'Logical. Everyone seems to love him but his gimmick is just...weird. This is the second time he's in my diary and I have resolved to give him a solid push because he's one of the more talented members of my roster, but I just don't know how to draw a character like that into a realistic storyline. That gimmick would work better on a bad sitcom or a good SNL skit (both about equal in comedic value...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dPro Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=The Shape;451895]As cheesy as I think the mask is the guy can work a match, gets solid Bs/B+s for me depending on opposition. [/QUOTE] Yeah he does. Mainly due to his overness and momentum. I still feel there are others on the SWF roster more deserving of that Main Event spot though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabataged Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I can never push Steve Flash. I always use him as a jobber to train people up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I have only played TCW so far and I Hate Giant Tana he cant put on a match worth more then a c+ at max and then only for 6 or 7 minutes. I try my hardest to job him out a lot and bury him but his high destiny keeps him popular grrrr. As I dont want him to remain popular because SWF would pick him up and make him a huge star with his destiny and entertainment stats I am kinda forced to keep him around and try my hardest to keep him happy and not higher then the midcard. Seriously thinking of injuring him for a long time on purpose. Any hints on how to do this? Charlie Thatcher (low safety + decent power) springs to my mind in House of Fun matches vs Giant Tana hehehehehehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=sabataged;451912]I can never push Steve Flash. I always use him as a jobber to train people up.[/QUOTE] He's really too old to justify pushing. Best thing to do with him is job him out to your potential stars. I've never been able to stand Troy Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Honestly, anyone who can't work a 15 minute match. Especially if they're in the main event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=shamelessposer;451933]He's really too old to justify pushing. Best thing to do with him is job him out to your potential stars. I've never been able to stand Troy Tornado.[/QUOTE] For me two words come to mind as far as Troy Tornado is concerned. Benign neglect. I don't have it out for him like you do but he does seem to be the odd man out creatively speaking when I'm booking TCW. It's not that I have any problem with him like I do Devine. He just tends to get lost in the shuffle for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=shamelessposer;451933]He's really too old to justify pushing. Best thing to do with him is job him out to your potential stars. [/QUOTE] or if its a written contract, to teach other wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigilistic Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=cappyboy;451958]For me two words come to mind as far as Troy Tornado is concerned. Benign neglect. I don't have it out for him like you do but he does seem to be the odd man out creatively speaking when I'm booking TCW. It's not that I have any problem with him like I do Devine. He just tends to get lost in the shuffle for me.[/QUOTE] Same here. Also, his finisher seems kind of lame. I mean, a flying forearm? Really? That's the best you can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitywpi Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Anyone who's brawling skills are higher than their tech and flying skills... combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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