ggazoo Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 How good do "B Shows" have to be? It seems no matter what, you'd want to put on the best show possible. So, if I put together a "B Show" (for example Sunday Night Heat), how can I get a good rating for it if none of the major stars appear? As well, what is something like Steve Austin appeared on the B show? What would happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjacko Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 A B show doesn't effect popularity or importance so i'm guessing you can make it as rubbish as you like as it wouldn't effect the promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=ggazoo;452337]How good do "B Shows" have to be? It seems no matter what, you'd want to put on the best show possible. So, if I put together a "B Show" (for example Sunday Night Heat), how can I get a good rating for it if none of the major stars appear? As well, what is something like Steve Austin appeared on the B show? What would happen?[/QUOTE] ...not a great deal? You seem to be missing the point slightly here. A 'B' show is just like a regular TV show in all aspects other than the fact that it has no affect on the promotion's popularity, no matter what grade it gets. Therefore if you have someone like Austin appear, his segments would probably be rated more highly, as you'd expect, and thus the ratings might go up a bit, but nothing special will happen just because he's a main eventer. The [b]only[/b] thing that makes B shows special is that they don't affect the promotion's popularity, and thus can get away with being 'bad' shows compared to your A shows. Thus, you can use less over talent without penalty to build them up and get them ready for the A show. Sort of like a wrestling Purgatory. You're not a development worker any more, but the promotion hasn't decided whether you're going to the A show or the unemployment line yet :p I generally use Development to develop skills, and then the B show to develop overness. If you WANT to use your main eventers on the B show, that's perfectly fine, there won't be any penalties or anything, but it would be a waste of a good show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Well, it will have some affect. It does affect the popularity of the workers involved. So if they are putting on terrible matches or losing, it can hurt the individual worker. But not the promotion itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggazoo Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 Ah... thanks guys. For a promotion as big as the WWF for example, what should the A show to B show ratio be per month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 [QUOTE=D-Lyrium;452346]I generally use Development to develop skills, and then the B show to develop overness. If you WANT to use your main eventers on the B show, that's perfectly fine, there won't be any penalties or anything, but it would be a waste of a good show.[/QUOTE] I disagree. It would not be a waste, per se. Presumably, if you're using the B show to raise overness, wouldn't it be a good idea to, from time to time, bring in folks who inherently have that which you're seeking to build? Depending on product, a worker doesn't have to BEAT the more over worker. Just being in the same ring can give them a boost. So, the star of your B show going head to head with one of your lesser main eventers would fit the scheme you're using, would it not? For example, having a Randy Orton do his Legend Killer schtick on a B show road agent (a retired "legend") with the save made by a B show fixture, would be one way of producing that boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Lyrium Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Yeah, the odd main eventer from time to time never hurts. I was talking more about having a 'proper' upper card, to produce a decent show rating. That would be pretty pointless. Rather than one legit main eventer being in the main event itself and beating an up-and-comer, which would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 How long do you normally run your B show? (like TV Show length) Right now I have it set for an hour to get some undercard workers some time to wrestle, however, I may try to move it up to an hour and a half as it can give me some more time for the younger workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob4590 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 On the subject on B shows - are you allowed to run "jobber v jobber" matches on them without getting the road agent note about the crowd not wanting to see that? It would seem logical that this should not apply, given that B shows are about giving the lower card a chance to be seen on TV. Anyone know? Adam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 [QUOTE=Rob4590;452556]On the subject on B shows - are you allowed to run "jobber v jobber" matches on them without getting the road agent note about the crowd not wanting to see that? It would seem logical that this should not apply, given that B shows are about giving the lower card a chance to be seen on TV. Anyone know? Adam?[/QUOTE] I could be wrong as I've avoided doing them recently, but I've gotten the note on both dark matches and B shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CW Saton Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Can you get away with not including storylines on your B-Shows? Without ending up with a bad show because the audience expected more storylines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonDan Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 How come I cant seem to get a network to take on a B show? I've even tried negotiating with the small networks and they aren't interested in taking on a B show. I've also tried editing my popularity to A* in every region and the networks still wont have it. Any idea's how I do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjacko Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 You have to negotiate with a network that's already showing an A show of yours to get a B show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 [QUOTE]How come I cant seem to get a network to take on a B show? I've even tried negotiating with the small networks and they aren't interested in taking on a B show. I've also tried editing my popularity to A* in every region and the networks still wont have it. Any idea's how I do this?[/QUOTE] I'm not 100% about this but I think you have to pick up a B show on a network that you already hold a show with. I picked up a "B" show with C.A.N.N (Where I also air Supreme TV) and had literally no problem what so ever. The only thing that happened was I had to then go into the TV Show schedule and change it from an "A" to a "B" since for some reason my game changed it back to an "A" even though I negotiated it as a "B". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattQ2607 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 [QUOTE=SimonDan;454077]How come I cant seem to get a network to take on a B show? I've even tried negotiating with the small networks and they aren't interested in taking on a B show. I've also tried editing my popularity to A* in every region and the networks still wont have it. Any idea's how I do this?[/QUOTE] You have to already have a TV show airing on that network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonDan Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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