rodzillahotrod Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 ok right now im updating the 1997 "Montreal Screwjob" by carlitocool. but i want to make my own real world data. so what i was thinking is i could do most of the research my self and get permission to use anyone elses data if i have to (like pics or graphic stuff i need). ok so the idea i had is to quick add every character and also for promotions use the original promotion for the promotion settings. now what i want to do for profiles is use [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki[/url] links to that wrestler in their profiles. i think using quick add for the wrestlers with maybe minor edits would make the game a lot harder to play and give it long game time to play. i want to try and do most of thing my self only think i have problems with is the title linage and making angel's detailed out so i'll probably just import that from adams game. what do u guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytomlin Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 If you use quick add, won't all the stats be completely wrong? I think if you don't want to edit stats, you probably shouldn't make a mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panix04 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 [QUOTE=tommytomlin;474082]If you use quick add, won't all the stats be completely wrong? I think if you don't want to edit stats, you probably shouldn't make a mod[/QUOTE] atleast not one based on a real life circumstance. If your not hot on stats, why not do something fictional? People will complain if stats are not acurate, right or wrong its going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodzillahotrod Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 oh i know that i was trying to make my mod different. i guess it would be more of a fantasy mod with real wrestlers. i just think if he made all quick wrestlers it would make the game a lot harder and maybe playable for a long game time... if its a bad idea i could just think of something else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panix04 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 [QUOTE=rodzillahotrod;474463]oh i know that i was trying to make my mod different. i guess it would be more of a fantasy mod with real wrestlers. i just think if he made all quick wrestlers it would make the game a lot harder and maybe playable for a long game time... if its a bad idea i could just think of something else...[/QUOTE] Don't get me wrong, i am in no way trying to discourage you. The more people modding on here the better as far as i am concerned. I just know how critical the people who play these mods can be. And if you some how end up with Kurt Angle's matt skills rated F- they will give you a bit of stick over it. By all means go ahead and make the mod, but take my advice, build something because you want to play it, that way even if it gets nowhere on the boards atleast you will have created a dataset you enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodzillahotrod Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 yea ur right i'll probably end up doing it after i get dont with the update im doing now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [QUOTE=rodzillahotrod;474028] i think using quick add for the wrestlers with maybe minor edits would make the game a lot harder to play and give it long game time to play. i want to try and do most of thing my self only think i have problems with is the title linage and making angel's detailed out so i'll probably just import that from adams game. what do u guys think?[/QUOTE] If your talking about using the inbuilt templates, that are their and some of them hugely recognizable as to whom they are, I think your going to start off with a great base to start with.:eek: I've looked at the templates, and set them differently as to how I felt someone was with each. They are VERY familiar looking, and actually set other settings as well. If you can sit down and take each template in, look at it, and see exactly where it sets them, from the entertainment skills and popularity, to the in ring skills.. And utilize them (From 1 to 10, with 10 being the best their is) in the way they are meant to be used, I don't see you having to do alot of adjustments. I know this goes against the grain of what most have told you, but I don't think they actually looked at the templates in as much detail as I have. I'm blown away by them, to be honest. The hardest part I would think is figuring out which Template would be best used for which wrestler's. Each one carries quite a bit of ground, and even the ones' that are obvious templates of legendary worker's, could be utilized for other's by slight changes in Entertainment or the four other area's that make the biggest difference. AKA Core Skills, Athletic Ability, Ability Level, Entertainment. Each of these make just one template compatible with dozens of worker's. One of my favorites is the European Technician, that could easily represent quite a few of the wrestler's from the early 1900's. Lou Thesz comes to mind, but certainly ton's fit this bill... As well as even up to today. Anyways, I wouldn't scrap this idea. I would definately take a look at each worker's stats everytime you put in their debut/birthdays and other stuff you can't really do while using the quick add, and make minor adjustments. However, I think you might end up with a very fun MOD if you do utilize all the features their to help you. I haven't made a mod, although I did work on the comicbook portion of Panic's mod back in '07, so I would definately weight the other's that have completed full mods, ahead of my advice. I just wanted to make sure that these Templates were not underated. With 11 Base types to work with, many with over 11 templates to choose from, and the easy familiarity you have with most of these templates "The Cowboy Hat: A play-by-play announder who knows how to help tell a story" are easy to figure out who they are modelled after. Using that person as a guide to other familiar announcers with similar traits, you then have the other ability/skill area's to adjust and make them much more different, right there in the templates area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeMan Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Can someone please list all the templates, and who they represent? I know most of them, 'coz they are pretty self explanatory, like WWE or ECW guys... but some of them I can't figure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWest Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [B][I]Modern New York[/I][/B] Game On: Triple H Rock Bottom: The Rock Stunning Redneck: Steve Austin White Rapper: John Cena Tune Up The Band: Shawn Michaels Dead Man Stalking: The Undertaker Heart Of A Lion: Chris Jericho Legend Killer: Randy Orton Samoan Savage: UMAGA~! Rainbow Warrior: Jeff Hardy Animal Unleashed: Batista Friendly Giant: Big Show Edged Out: Edge Indian Giant: The Great Khali Punked Out: CM Punk Fire And Brimstone: Kane The Sock: Mick Foley [B][I]Modern Others[/I][/B] Stiff Samoan: Samoa Joe Dragon In America: Bryan Danielson Olympic Hero: Kurt Angle [B][I]Classic New York[/I][/B] Immortal Yellow: Hulk Hogan A Million Dollars: Ted DiBiase French Giant: Andre The Giant Rowdy Celt: Roddy Piper Ultimate Competitor: The Ultimate Warrior Snake In The Grass: Jake Roberts The Hitman Cometh: Bret Hart Sumo Champion: Yokozuna Absolute Perfection: Curt Hennig Macho Madness: Randy Savage Miami Machismo: Razor Ramon/Scott Hall The Truck Stops Here: Diesel/Kevin Nash Prison Guard: Big Bossman Quaking In My Boots: Earthquake Demolition Derby: A member of Demolition [B][I]Classic Southern[/I][/B] Nature Boy Calls: Ric Flair Scorpion Surfer: Sting Totally Packaged: Lex Luger It's Time: Vader Warrior On The Road: A member of The Road Warriors Enter The Dragon: Ricky Steamboat Enforcement Agent: Arn Anderson Mr. Slingshot Suplex: ??? Crazy Texan: ??? Purely Sexy: ??? Bamm Bamm Bird: Terry Gordy Russian Nightmare: Nikita Koloff (?) American Dreamin': Dustay Rhodes, babay! Simply Ravishing: Rick Rude [B][I]Classic Philly[/I][/B] Suplex Machine: Taz Beer Warrior: The Sandman Fice Star Flash: Rob Van Dam Even Flow: ??? Philly Dreamin': Tommy Dreamer Homicidal Madman: Sabu Franchise Player: Shane Douglas Just Incredible: Justin Credible Storm Warning: Lance Storm Dog Of War: A member of The Pitbulls (?) The Bulldozer: ??? Greetings From New Jersey: Bam Bam Bigelow Enemy Of The Public: A member of Public Enemy Mr. Death Metal: ??? [B][I]Classic Japan[/I][/B] Masked Thunder: Jyushin Lyger Fat Samurai: Could be alot of people. Japanese Demon: ??? [B][I]Manager/Announcer/Colour[/I][/B] The Mouth: Jimmy Hart The Dean: ??? The Cowboy Hat: Jim Ross The Professor: Mike Tenay The Brain: Bobby Heenan Puppies: Jerry Lawler Go West: Don West Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 A few additions to the templates talk as some guys always seem to stump people. Still not sure about Mr. Slingshot Suplex myself, I will kick myself when I find out. Modern New York Game On: Triple H Rock Bottom: The Rock Stunning Redneck: Steve Austin White Rapper: John Cena Tune Up The Band: Shawn Michaels Dead Man Stalking: The Undertaker Heart Of A Lion: Chris Jericho Legend Killer: Randy Orton Samoan Savage: UMAGA~! Rainbow Warrior: Jeff Hardy Animal Unleashed: Batista Friendly Giant: Big Show Edged Out: Edge Indian Giant: The Great Khali Punked Out: CM Punk Fire And Brimstone: Kane The Sock: Mick Foley Modern Others Stiff Samoan: Samoa Joe Dragon In America: Bryan Danielson Olympic Hero: Kurt Angle Classic New York Immortal Yellow: Hulk Hogan A Million Dollars: Ted DiBiase French Giant: Andre The Giant Rowdy Celt: Roddy Piper Ultimate Competitor: The Ultimate Warrior Snake In The Grass: Jake Roberts The Hitman Cometh: Bret Hart Sumo Champion: Yokozuna Absolute Perfection: Curt Hennig Macho Madness: Randy Savage Miami Machismo: Razor Ramon/Scott Hall The Truck Stops Here: Diesel/Kevin Nash Prison Guard: Big Bossman Quaking In My Boots: Earthquake Demolition Derby: A member of Demolition Classic Southern Nature Boy Calls: Ric Flair Scorpion Surfer: Sting Totally Packaged: Lex Luger It's Time: Vader Warrior On The Road: A member of The Road Warriors Enter The Dragon: Ricky Steamboat Enforcement Agent: Arn Anderson Mr. Slingshot Suplex: ??? Crazy Texan: Terry Funk Purely Sexy: Michael P.S. Hayes Bamm Bamm Bird: Terry Gordy Russian Nightmare: Nikita Koloff (?) American Dreamin': Dustay Rhodes, babay! Simply Ravishing: Rick Rude Classic Philly Suplex Machine: Taz Beer Warrior: The Sandman Five Star Flash: Rob Van Dam Even Flow: Raven Philly Dreamin': Tommy Dreamer Homicidal Madman: Sabu Franchise Player: Shane Douglas Just Incredible: Justin Credible Storm Warning: Lance Storm Dog Of War: A member of The Pitbulls (definately) The Bulldozer: "Killdozer" Brian Lee Greetings From New Jersey: Bam Bam Bigelow Enemy Of The Public: A member of Public Enemy Mr. Death Metal: Jerry Lynn Classic Japan Masked Thunder: Jyushin Lyger Fat Samurai: Shinya Hashimoto Japanese Demon: Great Muta??? Manager/Announcer/Colour The Mouth: Jimmy Hart The Dean: Gordon Solie??? The Cowboy Hat: Jim Ross The Professor: Mike Tenay The Brain: Bobby Heenan Puppies: Jerry Lawler Go West: Don West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathen4 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Is Mr Slingshot Mr Perfect? I know nothing about them but wasn't he known for suplexes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [QUOTE=Rathen4;477138]Is Mr Slingshot Mr Perfect? I know nothing about them but wasn't he known for suplexes?[/QUOTE] That is what I was thinking, but then he seems to already be under Classic New York ... and also was not really well known for working in the south since he was an AWA then WWF guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWest Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 How I missed Terry Funk is beyond me. I also thought Raven was missing in Classic Philly, but I didn't think the Even Flow template suited him. I thought the Japanese Demon was The Great Muta but I wasn't really sure. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathen4 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [QUOTE=BurningHamster;477140]That is what I was thinking, but then he seems to already be under Classic New York ... and also was not really well known for working in the south since he was an AWA then WWF guy.[/QUOTE] Oh I see - I can't see him under Classic New York though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathen4 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I think I've got it - [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suplex#Slingshot_suplex[/url] Tully Blanchard - [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tully_Blanchard[/url] - Apparently started out in the South? I dunno, I have no idea who this is lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Yeah Rathen, I think you might be right about Tully Blanchard. While the description leaves a bit to be desired he certainly fits the bill and was such a big name leaving him out of the templates would be very unusual. Well played old chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWest Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [QUOTE=Rathen4;477142]Oh I see - I can't see him under Classic New York though..[/QUOTE] Classic New York Immortal Yellow: Hulk Hogan A Million Dollars: Ted DiBiase French Giant: Andre The Giant Rowdy Celt: Roddy Piper Ultimate Competitor: The Ultimate Warrior Snake In The Grass: Jake Roberts The Hitman Cometh: Bret Hart Sumo Champion: Yokozuna [B]Absolute Perfection: Curt Hennig[/B] Macho Madness: Randy Savage Miami Machismo: Razor Ramon/Scott Hall The Truck Stops Here: Diesel/Kevin Nash Prison Guard: Big Bossman Quaking In My Boots: Earthquake Demolition Derby: A member of Demolition Good job on Tully Blanchard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathen4 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 [QUOTE=ChrisWest;477145]Classic New York Immortal Yellow: Hulk Hogan A Million Dollars: Ted DiBiase French Giant: Andre The Giant Rowdy Celt: Roddy Piper Ultimate Competitor: The Ultimate Warrior Snake In The Grass: Jake Roberts The Hitman Cometh: Bret Hart Sumo Champion: Yokozuna [B]Absolute Perfection: Curt Hennig[/B] Macho Madness: Randy Savage Miami Machismo: Razor Ramon/Scott Hall The Truck Stops Here: Diesel/Kevin Nash Prison Guard: Big Bossman Quaking In My Boots: Earthquake Demolition Derby: A member of Demolition Good job on Tully Blanchard.[/QUOTE] Ah I see, I was looking for Mr. Perfect as that's all i knew him as :) Yay for Tully Blanchard (if that is right of course). Wikipedia is fantastic :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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