Jim Force Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Before all left-leaning GDSers say "Hey!" and all non-Americans say "Eh?", please read what I've got to say. I am in no way attacking Republicans or Conservatives by promoting this. I, however, am attacking immeasurably ignorant sheep who like to call themselves that in spite of not knowing what they're talking about. Recently, I came upon a story on moveon.com pointing out that Hillary Clinton, Master of Madness, was mistakenly labeled by [url]www.moveon.org[/url] as what they call a "crazy person". That site is basically a place for "heroes" to get commended and "crazy people" to be condemned. The "Crazy" list includes names such as Alberto Gonzalez, Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Nugent. The "Hereos" listed include Barack Obama, Al Gore, and Keith Olbermann. Yea... The point I'm making here is that Hillary Clinton currently tops the Crazy list. The people who run the site honestly believe her personality is legitimate and not ironic. That's hilarious... So vote! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Nice :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Last I checked, Hillary Clinton is a US Senator and Stephen Colbert is some guy with a show on Comedy Central. Also, no such "crazy" list exists. Also, Rush Limbaugh advocated attempts to start riots at the Democratic National Convention and played a song called "Barack the Magic Negro" on his radio show, and as such deserves to be on most "crazy" lists or at the very least most "morally bankrupt" lists. Dude, you're not even trying. You're trying to set up a false sense of equivalence between a guy who's advocated the torture of civilians (Alberto Gozalez) and a guy whose greatest sin in the eyes of the right was acknowledging the existence of scientific fact (Al Gore). This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. Unless you're posting this "in character" as Jim force, it's just... pathetic. (Ted Nugent is a crazy person and a racist by any reasonable standard, but since the most he's ever done to hurt people is vote Republican on the years he's been sober enough to get to the polls I'm going to leave him out of this.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 I'd hate to be Hillary right now. Everything she's put up with and tolerated from Bill in order to be in the position to become president, singularly believing that all she had to do was show up and she could win in 08, and she gets upstaged, because she was running a general election campaign and forgot to win the primaries. Yeah, I could see that making her crazy. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 You failed at copy/paste too... You still have "Conservatives and Republicans" at the top... It's lack of attention to detail and petty knee-jerk reactions like this that I was talking about in the other thread... And, in response to what I assume you will say to justify this, no, this IS NOT a mirror of the other thread or a different point-of-view. This is a lame parody that doesn't even fit the same parameters as the other thread. This thread will probably get the other thread closed, which shows what silly smearing can do to intelligent conversation... (If this was intended to be lame, I apologize...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 But, to stay on topic, Hillary Clinton will probably show up somewhere in William Wallace make-up and sing Christmas carols... She's going insane... (Politically at least...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=mjdgoldeneye;478633]You failed at copy/paste too... You still have "Conservatives and Republicans" at the top... It's lack of attention to detail and petty knee-jerk reactions like this that I was talking about in the other thread... And, in response to what I assume you will say to justify this, no, this IS NOT a mirror of the other thread or a different point-of-view. This is a lame parody that doesn't even fit the same parameters as the other thread. This thread will probably get the other thread closed, which shows what silly smearing can do to intelligent conversation... (If this was intended to be lame, I apologize...)[/quote] But this goes back to the original subject. You rhetorically asked why Al Franken called his book "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot". The rhetorical answer is: to get attention. Guess what? Lame parody or no, it got your attention. You know perfectly well you cherry picked an example that reinforced your biases, and used a provocative, generalizing title that would invite additional views. That's your choice. But don't pretend to be surprised at the outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=shamelessposer;478624]Last I checked, Hillary Clinton is a US Senator and Stephen Colbert is some guy with a show on Comedy Central. Also, no such "crazy" list exists. Also, Rush Limbaugh advocated attempts to start riots at the Democratic National Convention and played a song called "Barack the Magic Negro" on his radio show, and as such deserves to be on most "crazy" lists or at the very least most "morally bankrupt" lists. Dude, you're not even trying. You're trying to set up a false sense of equivalence between a guy who's advocated the torture of civilians (Alberto Gozalez) and a guy whose greatest sin in the eyes of the right was acknowledging the existence of scientific fact (Al Gore). This is a pathetic attempt at trolling. Unless you're posting this "in character" as Jim force, it's just... pathetic. (Ted Nugent is a crazy person and a racist by any reasonable standard, but since the most he's ever done to hurt people is vote Republican on the years he's been sober enough to get to the polls I'm going to leave him out of this.)[/QUOTE] There may be some specifics of his post that were a bit, dare I say 'lazy', but the more effort you put into something like this, the more lame and pointless it becomes. This was a parody of another post, and as such it was fine. I didn't notice any Republicans getting over-sensitive over the original topic. Try not to be over this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevermore Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Wallbanger;478642]You know perfectly well you cherry picked an example that reinforced your biases, and used a provocative, generalizing title that would invite additional views. That's your choice. But don't pretend to be surprised at the outcome.[/QUOTE] 'Banger, there are times when I love you so much! ...not in a gay way :rolleyes:. Quote The Raven Nevermore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Wallbanger;478642]But this goes back to the original subject. You rhetorically asked why Al Franken called his book "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot". The rhetorical answer is: to get attention. Guess what? Lame parody or no, it got your attention. You know perfectly well you cherry picked an example that reinforced your biases, and used a provocative, generalizing title that would invite additional views. That's your choice. But don't pretend to be surprised at the outcome.[/QUOTE] Actually, no, Al Franken didn't name his book that "to get attention"... It was an act of irony. That's why I rhetorically asked it. Rush Limbaugh is well known for mudslinging, and gets away with it day-in and day-out and his listeners commend it. Al Franken named his book what he did because it reflected Limbaugh while describing him. Obviously, people on the other side of the fence claimed it was a low-blow and that they couldn't see why he'd make such an insulting remark. This, of course, added to the irony. Now, you could try to apply the EXACT same situation to the 2 threads. However, you must keep in mind that my thread was ironic too. I'm sorry what some of you think, I wasn't trying to "stir things up", "get attention", or in any way be insulting. I do, however, admit I thought the title was witty and anyone with half a mind could get the point, regardless of alignment. Plus, everyone here knows me and I know of everyone who posts here... Why would I need to post a tabloid level controversial title to gain views? I was just trying to bring up something I found hilarious from the internet! Can you tell me with a straight face that this thread has a purpose aside from stirring up trouble? Can you tell me the other thread has been one-sided liberal bantering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=Self;478647]I didn't notice any Republicans getting over-sensitive over the original topic. Try not to be over this one.[/quote] Part of it is we're used to it. If I had a nickel for every off handed insult I've heard thrown at my side of the political spectrum in casual conversation, I'd be a billionaire. It's socially acceptible to trash conservatives. Crack a joke about liberals and you're a hate-monger. That's how the debate is controlled. It's just not worth getting riled up over anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Self;478647]I didn't notice any Republicans getting over-sensitive over the original topic. Try not to be over this one.[/QUOTE] I simply don't want a war to break out in the other topic so I figured I'd keep it here... I'm not offended or insulted, and as you've seen me post, I AGREE Clinton is a bit loopy. However, clone parody topics almost always lead to both closing, which makes this a silly thing to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 C'mon, mjd, he didn't want to call attention to a book he was selling? What's the point of writing it then? You can call it irony if you want, mjd, but if Franken had titled the book "A Lighthearted, Yet Academic Analysis of Why I Disagree With A Rotund Talk Radio Host" he wouldn't have sold as many books. Controversy creates cash. Liberals would gravitate to self-reinforcement, conservatives would complain, and thereby generate free publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=mjdgoldeneye;478656]I simply don't want a war to break out in the other topic so I figured I'd keep it here... I'm not offended or insulted, and as you've seen me post, I AGREE Clinton is a bit loopy. However, clone parody topics almost always lead to both closing, which makes this a silly thing to do...[/quote] And you wouldn't have had to worry about that if you'd put a little more consideration into your original post. You're no troll, I know that. But like I said before, it's socially acceptible to bash conservatives, so you felt no compunction in choosing the title you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Wallbanger;478660]C'mon, mjd, he didn't want to call attention to a book he was selling? What's the point of writing it then? You can call it irony if you want, mjd, but if Franken had titled the book "A Lighthearted, Yet Academic Analysis of Why I Disagree With A Rotund Talk Radio Host" he wouldn't have sold as many books. Controversy creates cash. Liberals would gravitate to self-reinforcement, conservatives would complain, and thereby generate free publicity.[/QUOTE] Yea, I see what you're saying. I agree with that point. All I was saying was that although Al Franken probably does think Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot, he titled his book that way for a justifiable reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crychon Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Be on the lookout for the: [URL="http://steamsteamlol.ytmnd.com/"]Next Thread![/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Crychon;478668]Be on the lookout for the: [URL="http://steamsteamlol.ytmnd.com/"]Next Thread![/URL][/QUOTE] YTMND: Applicable to any situation... ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=mjdgoldeneye;478665]Yea, I see what you're saying. I agree with that point. All I was saying was that although Al Franken probably does think Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot, he titled his book that way for a justifiable reason.[/quote] To be blunt, Franken is jealous. He's running for Senate in Minnesota, and recently had an open house in Saint Cloud where one, count them, one person showed up. Limbaugh has a daily audience in the tens of millions, and just signed a 9-figure contract that dwarfs Franken's entire career earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Wallbanger;478671]To be blunt, Franken is jealous. He's running for Senate in Minnesota, and recently had an open house in Saint Cloud where one, count them, one person showed up. Limbaugh has a daily audience in the tens of millions, and just signed a 9-figure contract that dwarfs Franken's entire career earnings.[/QUOTE] IDK if he's jealous so much as frustrated. Jealous implies he wants what Limbaugh has, and if I were him, I wouldn't want a hypocritical "let's attack everything I disagree with as un-American, immoral, and wrong" show. Limbaugh, in my opinion, is one of the worst "Bad Conservatives"... How he can get an audience after getting caught doing something he's condemned as downright despicable for years baffles me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antithesis Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Olberman is horrible and only slightly better than O'Reilly who just invites guests on to his show so he can yell at them before cutting their mic's off. Not a Hillary fan, but I believe her early support for a war in Iraq and later tough talk on Iran had much to do with her gender, and the subtle double standard cretins like Olberman tried to apply that if she's too soft she's just a girl and if she acts tough then she's just a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=mjdgoldeneye;478673]Jealous implies he wants what Limbaugh has, and if I were him, I wouldn't want a hypocritical "let's attack everything I disagree with as un-American, immoral, and wrong" show.[/quote] Franken's Air America show was exactly that. And it failed miserably. Nope, jealousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjdgoldeneye Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [QUOTE=Wallbanger;478691]Franken's Air America show was exactly that. And it failed miserably. Nope, jealousy.[/QUOTE] Rush Limbaugh thrives on ignorance. That's not something to be jealous about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallbanger Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 [quote=mjdgoldeneye;478694]Rush Limbaugh thrives on ignorance. That's not something to be jealous about...[/quote] You're dodging, mjd. You said Franken wasn't jealous because he didn't want what Limbaugh had, and I reminded you that Franken did indeed try to recreate it in the very same format, going head-to-head with Limbaugh, and got spanked. Your reply -- well, it doesn't count, and I'll make a huge generalization to prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are such shills I can barely stand them. Sean acts like a handbook: Person makes comment, Sean hears keyword, Sean gives pre-recorded response. However, to say that they label anyone who disagrees as un-American and that they thrive on ignorance is completely unfair. They take a lot of flack from the left thats simply unfounded. And, how about democrats in congress taking the time to condemn Rush for something they misquoted. Nice to know those liberals are protecting free speech. But, like I said, I really don't care for them, I prefer Glenn Beck, Michael Savage and Bill Cunningham (who is on the Piper DVD). I don't always agree with them, but at least they think for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antithesis Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 MJD, you'd be better off saying O'Reilly is jealous of Franken, as apparently O'Reilly threatened to have Franken killed during those phone sex conversations he had wih his former producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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