Gail Kim Possibly to return back to TNA

[mike b]

[url]http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/TNA_News_1/article_26784.shtml[/url] We shall see,stay tuned.

[Tyler Gadzinski]

Are you like the person that reads everything on those sites and believe it so you post it all here to share it with us. It seems that the last like 10 posts you've had were all from rumor sites.

[mike b]

yup and if ya noticed all mine came true huh

[Astil]

[QUOTE=mike b;491051]yup and if ya noticed all mine came true huh[/QUOTE] Let's not get snippy, if you will. Also capitalization and spell check, please.

[mike b]

Awe im not snippy:( I wuv's everyone

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=mike b;491060]Awe im not snippy:( I wuv's everyone[/QUOTE] You should stay out of Taker's bar.:cool:

[Wallbanger]

[quote=djthefunkchris;491067]You should stay out of Taker's bar.:cool:[/quote] He doesn't have a bar. He has a pub. /orders a pint of Hook Norton Double Stout

[GDE71]

If she stays at TNA, I will have to take back all the **** I talked about her.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=GDE71;491074]If she stays at TNA, I will have to take back all the **** I talked about her.[/QUOTE] You should really find out as much facts as possible before jumping the gun like you did in the first place. She never wanted to leave for all the reasons you thought it was dumb of her to move. The money was only a fraction of the problem, from all the information on it out now. The problem was respect moreso then anything. If your disrespected, you tend to take action, or at least look at other options no matter what the pay is.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=Wallbanger;491073]He doesn't have a bar. He has a pub. /orders a pint of Hook Norton Double Stout[/QUOTE] Your drinking the near beer again?

[mike b]

srry to much hawaiian punch with other things added

[mike b]

Sorry First i want to say i'm sorry to all of you if i came across as being kind of huffy in a reply i did in hear. I would just like to say that the reason i have been posting so many threads about things that have been going on behind the scenes in wrestling recenetly is that i am a wrestling fan as i well know many of you are and if i see something on the net that looks pretty legit and i think people in here might be interested in hearing in then i'm gonna do a thread on it(like the Kevin Nash story). Now i don't care if i get 0 replies to my thread on the subject as long as you folks get to hear about it that's all that matters to me. Now if you want me to stop posting threads just have one of the mods send me an message and ill stop.But until then I'm still gonna keep posting threads and if you don't like it well just don't read em. Nuff said

[shamelessposer]

[QUOTE=Tyler Gadzinski;491046]Are you like the person that reads everything on those sites and believe it so you post it all here to share it with us. It seems that the last like 10 posts you've had were all from rumor sites.[/QUOTE] The Torch is an awful lot more than a rumor site.

[AfRoMaN36]

[QUOTE=GDE71;491074]If she stays at TNA, I will have to take back all the **** I talked about her.[/QUOTE] So, "If she's on my team shes my goddess, if she's not, she's a prostitute?" Hypocritical, no?

[cappyboy]

[QUOTE=AfRoMaN36;491429]So, "If she's on my team shes my goddess, if she's not, she's a prostitute?" Hypocritical, no?[/QUOTE] Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize fandom was supposed to make sense. :)

[AfRoMaN36]

[QUOTE=cappyboy;491431]Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize fandom was supposed to make sense. :)[/QUOTE] I tell you what, out of all the Gail Kim talks, that is the probably the only post that made any sense to me.... This is like the crying and calling for the managers head that goes on when your favorite team is losing.... that is until they rally. Then he's a genius.

[djthefunkchris]

[QUOTE=cappyboy;491431]Oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize fandom was supposed to make sense. :)[/QUOTE] You know... This post made me think of something that maybe we all should start thinking about. What is it you like about wrestling, the wrestler's or the promotion? Would everyone still feel the same if WWE and TNA switched rosters? I don't know why but I think the answer is ........ Yes. I think most people are fans of the company, not the stars, anymore... This is something I have not thought about before. It's totally different now that I have played TEW, or come to this board, on how I think when watching wrestling. Before I wouldn't have even cared what the promotion was, I would just be anxiously awaiting my favorites to come on and wrestle or talk, or whatever. Back in the 70's and 80's, I remember just knowing this guy was on that channel, and the other guy was on this one. I never remembered the names of the promotions, outside of GLOW maybe, lol... but that was different.

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=AfRoMaN36;491429]So, "If she's on my team shes my goddess, if she's not, she's a prostitute?" Hypocritical, no?[/QUOTE] No. Afroman, you've played sports before. What happens before you face any team? You hate their best player(s) and gameplan to stop them (sometimes by any means necessary. Not all sports are of the powder puff variety). But if that player happens to say, transfer to your school or otherwise wind up a teammate, you love 'em and respect their ability (and do anything to make sure they're not "taken out" by an opposing team/player). Same deal here, except much lower impact. :p [QUOTE=AfRoMaN36;491434]This is like the crying and calling for the managers head that goes on when your favorite team is losing.... that is until they rally. Then he's a genius.[/QUOTE] errr, show me an example of this, please. I have yet to see any fans with brains do this. Sure, there were some fans last year who wanted Joe Torre fired. But again I state, [I]fans [B]with brains[/B][/I]. [QUOTE=djthefunkchris;491509]You know... This post made me think of something that maybe we all should start thinking about. What is it you like about wrestling, the wrestler's or the promotion? Would everyone still feel the same if WWE and TNA switched rosters? I don't know why but I think the answer is ........ Yes. I think most people are fans of the company, not the stars, anymore... This is something I have not thought about before. It's totally different now that I have played TEW, or come to this board, on how I think when watching wrestling. Before I wouldn't have even cared what the promotion was, I would just be anxiously awaiting my favorites to come on and wrestle or talk, or whatever. Back in the 70's and 80's, I remember just knowing this guy was on that channel, and the other guy was on this one. I never remembered the names of the promotions, outside of GLOW maybe, lol... but that was different.[/QUOTE] I have always been a different kind of fan but I have never, [B][I]EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER[/I][/B] been more of a fan of the company over the worker (at least not with wrestling). In fact, I'm more likely to despise the company for shorting a worker or wasting their talent (I'm lookin' at you, WWE). But even to this day, if I like a worker or their persona, I will buy their merchandise and ONLY their merchandise. Sure the company profits from that but then so does the worker in question. Haven't we seen people pushed because they move merch even though the crowds react to them oddly? And as I said in the other thread, Gail Kim should keep her narrow ass in TNA at whatever cost. Sometimes it's not all about the Benjamins (but I'd never admit to believing that!).

[SuperOwens]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;491509]You know... This post made me think of something that maybe we all should start thinking about. What is it you like about wrestling, the wrestler's or the promotion? Would everyone still feel the same if WWE and TNA switched rosters? I don't know why but I think the answer is ........ Yes. I think most people are fans of the company, not the stars, anymore... This is something I have not thought about before. It's totally different now that I have played TEW, or come to this board, on how I think when watching wrestling. Before I wouldn't have even cared what the promotion was, I would just be anxiously awaiting my favorites to come on and wrestle or talk, or whatever. Back in the 70's and 80's, I remember just knowing this guy was on that channel, and the other guy was on this one. I never remembered the names of the promotions, outside of GLOW maybe, lol... but that was different.[/QUOTE] Interesting point, but one that doesn't apply to me. Im a fan of good wrestling, whatever promotion that may be in. I think that the stereotypical 'fan boy' definitely does exist, but they tend to be fairly young. Im quite impressed with the mature and rational discussions on this forum, probably because the majority of posters skew a bit older in years.

[AfRoMaN36]

[QUOTE=Remianen;491538]No. Afroman, you've played sports before. What happens before you face any team? You hate their best player(s) and gameplan to stop them (sometimes by any means necessary. Not all sports are of the powder puff variety). But if that player happens to say, transfer to your school or otherwise wind up a teammate, you love 'em and respect their ability (and do anything to make sure they're not "taken out" by an opposing team/player). Same deal here, except much lower impact. :p[/quote] So because other people do it, it's not hypocritical? And your example isn't really isn't all that relevant. Too me this is more like when Pettite signed for the Astros because Stienbrenner refused to top Houston even though he had won them 21 games that year and pretty much put them into the World Series. The media trashed Steinbrenner for that, not Pettite. He's not the prostitute, Steinbrenner was just an idiot who didn't know what he had. [quote]errr, show me an example of this, please. I have yet to see any fans with brains do this. Sure, there were some fans last year who wanted Joe Torre fired. But again I state, [I]fans [B]with brains[/B][/I].[/quote] You read my mind with the Torre come back. But this happens ALL the time. A manager suffers through injuries and under performance and is expected to wave some magic wand to make everything better. And GOD FORBID you only win the Wild Card. I suppose my only come back to that is... not all wrestling fans have brains either. I never said they did. (No intended disrespect to anyone of course.)

[Astil]

[QUOTE=djthefunkchris;491509]You know... This post made me think of something that maybe we all should start thinking about. What is it you like about wrestling, the wrestler's or the promotion? Would everyone still feel the same if WWE and TNA switched rosters? I don't know why but I think the answer is ........ Yes. I think most people are fans of the company, not the stars, anymore... This is something I have not thought about before. It's totally different now that I have played TEW, or come to this board, on how I think when watching wrestling. Before I wouldn't have even cared what the promotion was, I would just be anxiously awaiting my favorites to come on and wrestle or talk, or whatever. Back in the 70's and 80's, I remember just knowing this guy was on that channel, and the other guy was on this one. I never remembered the names of the promotions, outside of GLOW maybe, lol... but that was different.[/QUOTE] That is a very interesting point. I know I like Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles, Team 3D (after seeing them at a house show). However, I also enjoy RAW over Smackdown, no matter who they put on RAW or Smackdown.

[GDE71]

[quote=AfRoMaN36;491429]So, "If she's on my team shes my goddess, if she's not, she's a prostitute?" Hypocritical, no?[/quote] Not at all.

[Nevermore]

[QUOTE=Remianen;491538]errr, show me an example of this, please. I have yet to see any fans with brains do this. Sure, there were some fans last year who wanted Joe Torre fired. But again I state, [I]fans [B]with brains[/B][/I].[/QUOTE] Can't be bothered getting into this again right now but just as an answer to this, Tom Coughlin. Quote The Raven Nevermore

[Remianen]

[QUOTE=AfRoMaN36;491576]So because other people do it, it's not hypocritical? And your example isn't really isn't all that relevant. Too me this is more like when Pettite signed for the Astros because Stienbrenner refused to top Houston even though he had won them 21 games that year and pretty much put them into the World Series. The media trashed Steinbrenner for that, not Pettite. He's not the prostitute, Steinbrenner was just an idiot who didn't know what he had.[/QUOTE] Okay Afroman, you have played organized sports, haven't you? I can't see how anyone who has wouldn't be able to see the parallel. You like your team. You want your team to win. You dislike those things (or people) who prevent that from occurring. Thus, Yankee fans will dislike Big Papi but will love Manny Ramirez (since he's no longer a thorn in their side). By the same token, Florida's linebacking corps will not love Knowshon Moreno. Gee, I wonder why that is? And despite what the armchair fans think, the Pettite thing made perfect sense given his history. Deny what happened in 2004 (elbow) if you want. Of course, then you have to look at what happened AFTER that (i.e. signing gimpy Carl Pavano for fear he might wind up in Boston, gimpy or not). It was a mistake, yes. And the aftermath caused even more problems (see: Wright, Jaret and Pavano, Carl) [QUOTE=AfRoMaN36;491576]You read my mind with the Torre come back. But this happens ALL the time. A manager suffers through injuries and under performance and is expected to wave some magic wand to make everything better. And GOD FORBID you only win the Wild Card. I suppose my only come back to that is... not all wrestling fans have brains either. I never said they did. (No intended disrespect to anyone of course.)[/QUOTE] You're talking about something completely different. You're referring to standards. Fans in Pittsburgh would be ecstatic if their team made the playoffs 12 years in a row, whether they got to or won the Series or not. But when your team has 26 championships, 39 pennants, and a tradition for winning (and doing what it takes to win), just making the playoffs isn't good enough. So while the fans in Milwaukee might be pleased as punch at a wild card berth, that doesn't fly in New York (or Boston for that matter). And for the record, the Yankees suck because, to paraphrase the Eagles, they're prisoners of their own device. Either play Melky or trade him. The kid's too good to sit (and that's just one example). Several teams have proven that you can win with young players, if you let them develop (Marlins, Rays, Rockies, Red Sox, Diamondbacks). The Yankees would have extreme depth if they'd follow suit (where's Shelly Duncan?). [QUOTE=Nevermore;491780]Can't be bothered getting into this again right now but just as an answer to this, Tom Coughlin.[/QUOTE] Bad example IMO. Bad example because Coughlin's teams have never been great performers. Going back to Boston College, his teams are usually good but not championship caliber. The same thing happened last season. No one expected the Giants to do anything....because they hadn't done anything. The reason Bill Belichick's owner would accept that fine and shrug it off is because his teams (in New England, at least) have always done well. The same can be said for Tony Dungy (in both Indy and Tampa Bay) and for the Chargers team (no matter who's the head coach, lately). When expectations are low and you still don't meet them, it doesn't take a stupid fan to want to see some kind of change occur. As far as I can see, we're talking about irrational fan behavior. Wanting a change when your favorite team is expected to do nothing...and does nothing, isn't irrational. Wanting a change when your favorite team is expected to contend and does contend, [B][I]is[/I][/B] irrational. Now, a fan who demands the Giants fire their head coach now, would be irrational. But if they're 3-13 this season, it would not be (given the level of talent on the team and the sudden emergence of their quarterback), at least in my view.

[shamelessposer]

[QUOTE=GDE71;491778]Not at all.[/QUOTE] Just misogynistic.