i effin rule Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 ......................................... Kimbo KO'd by a replacement in about 15 sec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i effin rule Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Shamrock got scratched earlier today because of a cut he got during training. Seth Petruzelli (who was suppose to fight on the undercard) was offered the spot and took it. He came out and KO'd Kimbo in literally about 15 seconds. I nearly didn't watch since Shamrock wasn't fighting, but that "what if" factor that I think a lot of people have about Kimbo's first loss was there, so I had to. Kimbo losing to such a small name certainly can not help them unless Petruzelli somehow goes off on a tear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGJOSH Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 LOL Finally everyone can see that Kimbo is not a real MMA fighter! Kimbo was a circus freak simple as that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardVeers Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Haha. I laughed pretty loudly. Kimbo handled himself very well after the defeat. Seth has never been a top 10 guy, or even top 20. And he's not even in the same weightclass.. and uh. Yeah. Seth has always been a solid fighter, that's about it. I just lol'd so loudly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 wow.... I sat down expecting to see a fight and came away with a 15 second ass kickin'. haha. Kimbo just never got his feet underneath him. I knew he wasn't all that great but I wasn't expecting this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grits207 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 That was funny as hell and was exactly what EliteXC deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I absolutely LOVED that. Kimbo was a great streetfighter. And nothing more. Sadly, we won't get to see Dana White embarrassing Kimbo all the way back to youtube (as he's stated in several interviews). Someone in XC already did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;503241]wow.... I sat down expecting to see a fight and came away with a 15 second ass kickin'. haha. Kimbo just never got his feet underneath him. I knew he wasn't all that great but I wasn't expecting this![/QUOTE] In 1988, my dad won tickets to see Mike Tyson fight Michael Spinks via Closed Circuit Television. He of course took me with him. 91 seconds later we were glad we hadn't "paid" to see the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadisticBlessings Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [QUOTE=grits207;503250]That was funny as hell and was exactly what EliteXC deserved.[/QUOTE] Seconded. Putting an unproven fighter like Kimbo in the main events of their cards on network television was just begging for something like this to happen. Now that the bubble has burst, maybe we'll get to see some real fighters in the main events. The card itself, aside from the Kimbo freak show, wasn't bad, though. Radach vs. Rua was an exciting, back-and-forth brawl to start the night, Carano looked crisp against Kelly Kobald and showed impressive takedown defense while being bullied around by a superior grappler, both Nelson and AA had their moments in their fight, and Shields pretty much walked through Daley in the only boring fight of the evening. Now if only the lame ass Kimbo fight had been bumped and the Cyborg vs. Takahashi fight (which word has it tore the house down) had gotten televised, I'd give this card a thumbs up. As it is, though, two non-competitive fights to end the night left me with a bad taste in my mouth. And as a side note, did anyone else notice Jared Shaw freaking out and screaming at the referee when Kimbo went down? Incredibly unprofessional. For all the flack Dana catches, he's never reacted like that to a fight - not even when it's a friend who just got KTFO'd, like Chuck against Rashad. Here's a hint: if your business fails because an inexperienced brawler like Kimbo just got knocked out by a REAL fighter, it's not the ref's fault or Kimbo's fault, it's [i]your[/i] fault for devoting the entire EliteXC hype machine to a guy without a single win over genuine competition. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisen-verse Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [QUOTE]In 1988, my dad won tickets to see Mike Tyson fight Michael Spinks via Closed Circuit Television. He of course took me with him. 91 seconds later we were glad we hadn't "paid" to see the fight.[/QUOTE]\ oh wow, you were there for that fight? haha. Wasn't that Tyson's "coming out of Prison" match? From what I remember he owned Spinks and laid him out in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Spinks was a has been though. As was almost everyone that Tyson fought that had any popularity to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [CENTER] [IMG]http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg100/thelostsoul76/kimbo-seth-2_medium.gif[/IMG] [LEFT]:rolleyes:[/LEFT] [/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;503388]\ oh wow, you were there for that fight? haha. Wasn't that Tyson's "coming out of Prison" match? From what I remember he owned Spinks and laid him out in no time.[/QUOTE] no, this was pre-prison, pre-buster douglas, when he was still considered unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 [QUOTE=djthefunkchris;503390]Spinks was a has been though. As was almost everyone that Tyson fought that had any popularity to them.[/QUOTE] Spinks was hardly a has-been at that point. Some considered him the uncrowned champion as he had been stripped of his belts and never lost them. Correction, Michael Spinks was 31-0 at the time [url]http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=474&cat=boxer[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antithesis Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Apparently the guy who beat Kimbo is saying an Elite XC promoter (forget the name) paid him more not to take Kimbo to the ground... if this true, and any kind of major news organization investigates and come up with proof, then Elite XC is done for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Except they should have been investigated/done for after the Kimbo/Thompson fight that Kimbo won by way of dubious refereeing. [url]http://mmascribe.com/2008/10/elitexc-shady-allegations/[/url] There seems to be nothing to it. Except that XC has always been third rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitywpi Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 [QUOTE=Antithesis;504060]Apparently the guy who beat Kimbo is saying an Elite XC promoter (forget the name) paid him more not to take Kimbo to the ground... if this true, and any kind of major news organization investigates and come up with proof, then Elite XC is done for.[/QUOTE] Why? It's all a work anyway. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 This was the first MMA show I have ever made the effort to try and watch. I was purely drawn in by the Shamrock/Kimbo match, and although I was pretty gutted to find out it was off, I still enjoyed the hell out of it. I don't know what the consensus on EliteXC is, but I had a blast. I kept imagining what pro-wrestling would be like if it was more like this; long hypes followed by (fairly) decisive matches, and... I was genuinely excited at the start of every match (except the fourth, though that was due to burn out) and I can't remember that ever happening for me in wrestling. MMA may have just got a convert. What I liked was that I'm not 'smart' to this business. I didn't think about what was good for the company. I didn't think about 'protecting' or 'pushing'. I just had a choice of two people, picked who I wanted to win based on the videos, and watched. I wish I could do that with wrestling, but I'm too into the backstage stuff. I thought the finish to Radach/Rua was awesome. I'm happy Kobold put up the fight she did. I was gutted that "Big Country" and the English guy didn't win (In a good way) and... I was supporting Petrezelli. Big tough guys like Kimbo don't float my boat, similar to Batista and Undertaker. Seth was an underdog (as presented on the show) and had interesting hair. Instantly went in my good books. Seeing him win was great fun. Good show. It certainly got me into the fold. I hope EliteXC keeps on trucking a while longer. My only complaint was that, with 5 matches over 2 hours, it was a little long for me. I can rarely set aside that amount of time to watch things, and by match 4 I was pretty burned out. If there was an hour long, 3 match show, I would watch every episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i effin rule Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 [QUOTE=Self;504791]This was the first MMA show I have ever made the effort to try and watch. I was purely drawn in by the Shamrock/Kimbo match, and although I was pretty gutted to find out it was off, I still enjoyed the hell out of it. I don't know what the consensus on EliteXC is, but I had a blast. I kept imagining what pro-wrestling would be like if it was more like this; long hypes followed by (fairly) decisive matches, and... I was genuinely excited at the start of every match (except the fourth, though that was due to burn out) and I can't remember that ever happening for me in wrestling. MMA may have just got a convert. What I liked was that I'm not 'smart' to this business. I didn't think about what was good for the company. I didn't think about 'protecting' or 'pushing'. I just had a choice of two people, picked who I wanted to win based on the videos, and watched. I wish I could do that with wrestling, but I'm too into the backstage stuff. I thought the finish to Radach/Rua was awesome. I'm happy Kobold put up the fight she did. I was gutted that "Big Country" and the English guy didn't win (In a good way) and... I was supporting Petrezelli. Big tough guys like Kimbo don't float my boat, similar to Batista and Undertaker. Seth was an underdog (as presented on the show) and had interesting hair. Instantly went in my good books. Seeing him win was great fun. Good show. It certainly got me into the fold. I hope EliteXC keeps on trucking a while longer. My only complaint was that, with 5 matches over 2 hours, it was a little long for me. I can rarely set aside that amount of time to watch things, and by match 4 I was pretty burned out. If there was an hour long, 3 match show, I would watch every episode.[/QUOTE] You might be interested in this then. It's UFC's upcoming free show. [url]http://89.ufc.com/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Self if you liked that EliteXC show you will definately like the UFC shows. Though at 3 hours and 5 matches long it might be to ong for you if you were burnt out at the fourth match of the EliteXC show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds a bit long, but... I don't know. It may have been more the amount of matches than the show length. I think I would have liked some more build to the fights actually. Longer profiles on the combatants. Pre-fight interviews. Certain aspects of the show felt rushed. Perhaps spread over more time, 5 fights would be okay. I was definitely into things again by the Main Event, probably because it was the Main Event. Also, now that I think of it. I have no idea when the next EliteXC show is on, or who's fighting on it. I don't live in America, so I don't equal ratings, but... If I knew when it was on, and liked the idea of some of the fights, I would make a point of watching. I'm just sayin'. I'll experiment with some UFC at some point... Is Randy/Brock UFC? I'm totally looking forward to that (although I couldn't pick Randy out of a lineup at this point). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 [QUOTE=Self;504833][B]Also, now that I think of it. I have no idea when the next EliteXC show is on, or who's fighting on it.[/B] I don't live in America, so I don't equal ratings, but... If I knew when it was on, and liked the idea of some of the fights, I would make a point of watching. I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE] I am not sure when the next EXC on CBS is, but the next EliteXC card will be Robbie Lawler (top five middleweight) defending his title against Joey Villasenor. [QUOTE]I'll experiment with some UFC at some point... Is Randy/Brock UFC? I'm totally looking forward to that (although I couldn't pick Randy out of a lineup at this point).[/QUOTE] The two main-events for the card next Saturday are pretty good. Brandon Vera is one of the top prospects against vetern and contender Keith Jardine... the main event is a middleweight contender bout between Chris Leben and Michael Bisping. Then the next Saturday the best fighter in the world pound for pound, Anderson Silva, defends the UFC Middleweight title against Patrick Cote -- Diego Sanchez vs. Thiago Alves (#2 Welterweight in the world) is on the undercard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 [QUOTE=scorpion;503280]In 1988, my dad won tickets to see Mike Tyson fight Michael Spinks via Closed Circuit Television. He of course took me with him. 91 seconds later we were glad we hadn't "paid" to see the fight.[/QUOTE] I got one better. My uncle had paid $15,000 each for a pair of tickets two rows off of ringside. He went to the bathroom during introductions and when he came out of the bathroom, people were filing out. I wish I was joking. $30k in '88 was a pretty sizable sum of money for most folks so to spend it on seats to a fight (mind you, that didn't include the airfare, hotel, meals and such. That was 30k just for the damn seats) was ridiculous. From that point on, my uncle wouldn't pay to see ANY sporting event live. Not the Eastern Conference playoffs (Bulls-Knicks), not the ALDS/ALCS/World Series (Yankees), nothing. He even passed on Subway Series tickets in 2000 (Yankees-Mets). [QUOTE=Eisen-verse;503388]\ oh wow, you were there for that fight? haha. Wasn't that Tyson's "coming out of Prison" match? From what I remember he owned Spinks and laid him out in no time.[/QUOTE] Uh no, Tyson was still very much "The Destroyer" when he faced Michael Spinks. Spinks was supposed to be the future of the heavyweight division, after stopping Larry Holmes twice (both decisions). So much for the future of the heavyweight division. Spinks was so absolutely demoralized, he retired immediately after Tyson rocked his knot. [QUOTE=scorpion;503408]Spinks was hardly a has-been at that point. Some considered him the uncrowned champion as he had been stripped of his belts and never lost them. Correction, Michael Spinks was 31-0 at the time [url]http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=474&cat=boxer[/url][/QUOTE] Michael Spinks was never a has-been. He didn't have the time. As soon as Tyson obliterated him, he retired and never wanted to be seen inside a boxing ring again. That fight embarrassed him. Worst part of that is, that fight is now his legacy. All anyone will remember of Michael Spinks is him lying spread eagle near the ropes with Tyson standing near him with a left hand ****ed with Kevin Rooney shouting "4, 4, 7, 2". As for Kimbo, come on, did this surprise anyone, really? Now that he's lost, interest in him will wane and he'll go back to doing what he was doing. OR, he could go into training and become a true MMA fighter. Either one. But EliteXC's gravy train has come to an abrupt halt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The next big MMA card is UFC 89 on the 18th. The main event is Bisping vs. Leben. It's got some good fights on. Since you don't live in the UK it will be on Setanta Sports in the UK. Then one week later UFC 90 is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapCee Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 [QUOTE=BlizzardVeers;503232]Haha. I laughed pretty loudly. Kimbo handled himself very well after the defeat. Seth has never been a top 10 guy, or even top 20. And he's not even in the same weightclass.. and uh. Yeah. Seth has always been a solid fighter, that's about it. I just lol'd so loudly though.[/QUOTE] Actually Seth almost always fights at Heavyweight. On this particular night he had dropped down to 205 to fight a LHW opponent. He said he cut about 20 lbs. going into his original fight and would fight around 224 in a potential Kimbo rematch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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