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Just wanted to get the communities opinion on Joe Sexy. Anyone think he is world champ material? I put him in a feud with Steve Frehley and he has gotten himself at a B+ to A range popularity across North America. I don't know if I would trust him holding the belt with his mediocre wrestling ability but he can carry any feud with his entertainment skills. Thoughts?
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Why wouldn't he be world champion material in SWF? Supreme is all about popularity, so if the popularity is there, then he's world champion material. Sexy is a better worker overall than Runaway Train, and he's a 2-time champion. He's pretty much as good as Frehley. If you were talking another promotion, I would say no. But in SWF, you can put the strap on pretty much anyone successfully if you can get their popularity up.
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[QUOTE]He's isn't a champ in terms that you can carry a promotion on him, but he's fine enough to be a multi-time transitional champion. I mean, if booked correctly, he could be the C-Verse Rick Rude. Plus, he never lets me down in matches. He's consistant.[/QUOTE] Perfectly said here. I would give sexy the chance at being World Champion in a transitional role at first and if he pays off like he normally does... He could mold into a big figure for your game. Really, Sexy is a very versatile worker in the sense that he can work great as a manager, talk show host, risque heel, etc. I love the guy!
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[QUOTE=shamelessposer;504406]A good champion is a guy who can carry matches himself even when wrestling people who have no business challenging for his belt. When the game starts, Joe Sexy isn't able to rise to that task.[/QUOTE] He won't make a good or better champion without improving his performance stats a bit. That's really the only thing holding him back from being a pretty solid champ, beyond getting his popularity up. Which in SWF, is probably even more important than the performance skills. A champion who can consistently carry matches against inferior competition isn't just a good champion. That's ideal. Everyone wants a Tommy Cornell as their champion, but there are only so many Tommy Cornell's. Midnightnick said it best - Sexy won't carry a promotion. But he isn't likely to have to, even if he has the strap. SWF is going to have a lot of other talent, most likely.
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[QUOTE]A champion who can consistently carry matches against inferior competition isn't just a good champion. That's ideal. Everyone wants a Tommy Cornell as their champion, but there are only so many Tommy Cornell's.[/QUOTE] Angry Gilmore is MY "Tommy Cornell" in most SWF games. Can carry mostly anyone in matches and is strong all around.
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I say that Joe Sexy is totally World Champ material but he needs a year or two to get his skills up another level first. In my big SWF game from TEW07 I had him as part of a modelling agency stable along with Frederique Antonio Garcia and Zeus Maxmillion and Jenny Playmate. They feuded with a group of talented youngsters I had on my roster for ages and all of them were eventually worthy of a push in their own right. When the stable split I decided to push Sexy as a more serious competitor so I changed his name to something snappier Joseph Lewis Knight, changing his finisher to the One Knight Stand and putting him into Christian Faith's new Evolution type stable. Never pushed JLK as far as the World title but he was definitely going to get the belt down the line cos his skills were as high as B- in brawling and his angles were pulling awesome ratings consistently. So yeah, Joe Sexy for the World title! :D
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Well, match rating isn't entirely based upon popularity, and if you are in a death match with TCW like some games go, I'd say no. If you are safely entrenched at a Global level and/or all your A shows are not directly challenged by TCW shows for audience share, then it isn't as bad.
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On my SWF game he's mainly being wrestling dark matches, also had a guest appearance as colour commentator throughout the When Hell Freezes Over PPV (something I'm going to do every month) and a couple of TV appearances to lose to Giedroyc and Faith respectively. I can see myself using him if I renew his contract, which at the moment Eisen doesn't want me to do because of his C+ basics (they started at C and need to be B-).
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A lot of people connect him as a Cornellverse equivalent of "Ravishing" Rick Rude thanks to his arrogant womanising act. In terms of Cornellverse history he's probably a lot like Womaniser Robbie Gordon was meant to be (holy confusing time lines Batman!), but you'd need to check out the 1975 Cornellverse for more info on him. :)
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[quote=derek_b;504822]A lot of people connect him as a Cornellverse equivalent of "Ravishing" Rick Rude thanks to his arrogant womanising act. In terms of Cornellverse history he's probably a lot like Womaniser Robbie Gordon was meant to be (holy confusing time lines Batman!), but you'd need to check out the 1975 Cornellverse for more info on him. :)[/quote] It's a shame Robbie Gordon never caught on. I do love how Magnum Jackson became the greatest thing since sliced bread though. But to find that out, you need to check out the 97 C-Verse Mod. /Shill
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That's the only major downfall with Joe Sexy. Yea, His stats aren't great... but it's the fact that he starts out in his mid 30's (i do believe), so you're already pushing towards the end of his career. Granted, most wrestlers can make it past their 40's... however, that's the only problem I've ever had with him. Other than that, Recently I teamed him up with Squeeky McClean to create a degenerate style of tag team called "Clean & Dirty". Playing off of the Straight Edge persona of Squeeky in a degenerate kind of manor and using Joe Sexy's womanizing/ultra ****y persona to contradict the "good" that McClean preaches. Kind of a hypocritical tag team.
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That's a really good idea E-V...in my current game Squeeky's feud with Retro is coming to an end and Sexy's had nothing to do since the start...they balance each other out as well (well..Squeeky compensates for Sexy's poor ring work allowing him to be protected a lot, and Joe adds the star quality). So yeah, think I might use that =D
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[QUOTE]That's a really good idea E-V...in my current game Squeeky's feud with Retro is coming to an end and Sexy's had nothing to do since the start...they balance each other out as well (well..Squeeky compensates for Sexy's poor ring work allowing him to be protected a lot, and Joe adds the star quality). So yeah, think I might use that =D[/QUOTE] They've become my fav. tag team in my game and have been a focal point of the SWF despite not originally being my two fav. characters. Now they've had high profile feuds with a lot of the main eventers and have even worked in the process of creating new superstars through feuds. All in all, in my game, They've been absolute gold.
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