Guest Ransik Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 According to gerweck... the following have been released; -D-Lo Brown -Bam Neely -Mike Posey -Jimmy Korderas -VAL VENIS -Tim White -Kevin Thorn More are said to be following as WWE fired 10% of it's office staff the other day as well. Can't believe Val is gone... if anyone can be refreshed by going to TNA... it's him.
cappyboy Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 According to gerweck... the following have been released; -D-Lo Brown -Bam Neely -Mike Posey -Jimmy Korderas -VAL VENIS -Tim White -Kevin Thorn More are said to be following as WWE fired 10% of it's office staff the other day as well. Can't believe Val is gone... if anyone can be refreshed by going to TNA... it's him. WHOA!! Would have figured Val for a WWE lifer at this point. But you know speaking of the TNA thing, I have a great idea for that. He used to tag up with Shane Sewell in Puerto Rico did he not? So why not have Sewell working the phone trying to get someone to come to TNA and help him out with Shiek Abdul Bashir? Bashir keeps pushing Sewell's buttons and then BOOM!! Here comes Val to the rescue. Sewell starts posting Val at ringside to keep Bashir at bay and Val starts hunting Bashir to defend his old buddy's honor. Kinda disappointed to hear about D Lo too. D Lo's been my boy for years and I kept hoping to catch him on Tv sometime during this run. Sadly I never managed it. There could be cool potential for him in TNA as well though. With Bubba Ray apparently nearing his professional end, it would rock if D-Von took on D-Lo as his new tag partner. I can just see someone like Beer Money dismissing the new team because of how long D-Von's been with Ray and getting stung for the titles as a result. It would be one of those beautiful wrestling comeuppance moments. Not quite as disappointed as I was over his past releases because of the lack of exposure. But man why can't I have D. Lo on my TV?
FINisher Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 source: PWInsider.com WWE has finally parted ways with former ECW wrestler Kevin Thorn (Kevin Fertig). As recently as a few weeks ago, Fertig was scheduled to return to the main roster as part of the SmackDown brand as a member of a faction led by WWE developmental wrestler Vade Hansen. Officials had plans for group to feud with Undertaker leading into Wrestlemania this year, but Vince McMahon pulled the plug after a single Hansen promo aired on Smackdown a few weeks ago. This is the second time in which Fertig has been released by WWE. He was originally released by the company in July 2005 during a massive talent purge. He was brought back to the company in 2006 and debuted under a vampire gimmick in ECW a few months later. source: PWInsider.com -- Former referee Tim White was let go by WWE today. He had been working backstage in a producer role in recent years since retiring from the ring due to an injury that occurred while refereeing a Hell in the Cell bout between Triple H and Chris Jericho at the 2002 Judgment Day pay-per-view. White had been with the company since the 1980s. The decision to release White was said to be a stunner, who by all accounts was well liked by the wrestlers. So atleast D-Lo Brown, Bam Neely, Val Venis, Tim White and Kevin Fertig have been released. More are still to come.
tjb000 Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Heard about these not just long ago. I was a little sad to see D'Lo get released after just being rehired months ago. Then again, he hasn't been on TV since the first week or two he was 'rehired'. VERY sad to see Val Venis go though. I look forward to seeing him in a non-WWE ring, but I'll miss him in WWE (even though he hasn't been seen since injury). I've always been a fan of his. In fact, my first ever WWE/F exposure was Val Venis vs. D'Lo Brown at SummerSlam 98. I got into WWF a bit late. I was mostly a WCW when I first got into wrestling. Anyways, yeah, I'm pretty sure that was my first WWF match I saw. Been a fan of both guys since. I thought for sure Val would be with WWE for a long time even after he retired from wrestling. Oh well. Wish him the best of luck in future endeavors... D'oh!
infinitywpi Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Had a feeling Thorn was gone when they said what's-his-name wasn't going to feud with the Undertaker. Kinda surprised Val is gone tho. I know they haven't used him much lately, but he seemed to be a good company man, loyal for life. If Hardcore Holly is still on the roster, he won't be shortly...
GDE71 Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Supposed to be getting rid of expensive workers as far as staffers go. I'm sure the more expensive entertainers who aren't really over will be going to. Hopefully ROH will get the HDNet deal and pick up the guys who can go in the ring.
infinitywpi Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Also fired, apparently, Vince McMahon's two personal limo drivers. ... two? That's a little overboard, isn't it? You can't possibly use mroe than one at a time. Also fired, at least open person who works for the website, as they temporarily spoiled the major name going into the hall of fame this year... never fire web staff on bad terms. Techies get... cranky.
BurningHamster Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hmm WWE firing sprees always annoy me ... they never seen to get rid of the guys I truly dislike (Miz ) and always get rid of someone far more talented. Val is bit of a shock, but D'Lo gets me as well. Didn't they only rehire him recently?
tristram Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Makes you wonder about WWE creative's long term view of it's talent, doesn't it? D'Lo is brought back after years only a few months ago, gets like 2 weeks on TV and creative seemingly sit back and go, "you know what, I can't think of what to do with him now.".... You just REHIRED him you idiots! If any business without a lucrative niche operated it's human resources decisions as poorly the WWE does, it'd be struggling big time to get the best out of any businesses key resource - it's people. Effectively what they've done with D'Lo is hire him for a position that doesn't exist. Surprised also on Bam Neely, they bring him in, he plays a significant role to get another worker over as an enforcer, and again after that use creative seems to have nothing to do with him. My question is, how often do the WWE rotate their creative booking team because it seems to be the same things happen over and over again. Ludicrous hirings where you think there's an initial push or at least hope for the wrestler, only to be gone within 6-12 months. That's why I absolutely love keefmoon's portrayal of the WWF as it was, because unlike this creative (oxymoron) lot he can find a way to utilise his roster.
Self Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 You hire people for specific roles. They brought up Bam Neeley because he fit a specific role as Chavo's bodyguard. Now that it's over, they could either come up with something for him to do to justify his paycheque, or they could let him go. I think they made the right choice. It's like any television show, once a character has played their part in the story, you kill them off. Keeping a character around, when a heart you don't want to, is rarely good for the story. It's like the Studio insisting Sam Raimi put Venom into Spiderman 3, despite the fact he hated the character. There was interest, but the film still sucked. Totally agree with all of the firings so far. If you're not using a wrestler on television, and don't have any specific future role in mind for him, just fire him and save yourself some money.
Hyde Hill Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Too bad firing in game doesnt save you money when on written. Should be more like half of potential earnings instead of full 100 percent.
Capelli King Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Also fired, apparently, Vince McMahon's two personal limo drivers. ... two? That's a little overboard, isn't it? You can't possibly use mroe than one at a time. I have 2, belive me, you need to give one a break sometimes;)
Vladamire Dracos Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Add Gavin Spears to the list of talent who were released by World Wrestling Entertainment yesterday. Spears was a OVW Southern Tag Team Champion with Cody Rhodes. Once he was brought to the main roster, he was used a few times in ECW and then pretty much forgotten about. Spears was with the company since 2006. http://www.wrestlingnewsarena.com/2009/01/another-ecw-superstar-released-by-wwe/
sebsy Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Totally shocked and disappointed at Val getting fired, as has been said I thought he'd be there for as long as he wanted to be, never thought he would be let go. Fair do's, they've not really tried to do anything for him and he gets little air time, but he could have been repackaged, still to be Val but a little different and the fans would love it because they love him.
infinitywpi Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I pretty much garuntee at this point that creative has no role in who gets hired or not. They just get told who they have to work with. I bet they have about as much control over who gets fired... the people who do the firing just look at who hasn't been used in a while...
James Casey Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 In fairness to WWE, last time I saw Val on TV he seemed to have lost all muscle definition and generally looked really out of condition. Maybe he'd just come back from an injury or something, but he just seemed like he'd really let himself go. Bam Neely's departure just goes to show that being 6'6 and built might get your foot in the door, but won't keep you there. D'Lo... Well, He's been in and out of WWE a number of times now. It's clear than any momentum he had ended when the Droese thing happened, and while no blame was ever attached to him, equally I would wager that there were some people who were antsy about facing him. I can't say anyone especially surprises me, as there's no-one gone who's been a significant presence on TV of late.
BurningHamster Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 D'Lo... Well, He's been in and out of WWE a number of times now. It's clear than any momentum he had ended when the Droese thing happened, and while no blame was ever attached to him, equally I would wager that there were some people who were antsy about facing him. Poor Duke Droese
cappyboy Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I would imagine. Although maybe the Droese reference earlier this week by the Motor City Machine Guns threw them off.
James Casey Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Yeah, Droz rather than Droese. Sounds the same
tristram Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 You hire people for specific roles. They brought up Bam Neeley because he fit a specific role as Chavo's bodyguard. Now that it's over, they could either come up with something for him to do to justify his paycheque, or they could let him go. I think they made the right choice. It's like any television show, once a character has played their part in the story, you kill them off. Keeping a character around, when a heart you don't want to, is rarely good for the story. It's like the Studio insisting Sam Raimi put Venom into Spiderman 3, despite the fact he hated the character. There was interest, but the film still sucked. Totally agree with all of the firings so far. If you're not using a wrestler on television, and don't have any specific future role in mind for him, just fire him and save yourself some money. So what was D'Lo's role? Fire up for two weeks and collect his pay-cheque? The WWE needs to consider going back to one brand + ECW as a separate organisation. It looks to me as if they bring in a surplus of wrestlers, hope creative and VKM can find a want/need to use them, and if not casually slip back to offering them a release. Perhaps if they thought more realistically about a trimmed down roster with less fat in it and more quality they wouldn't constantly run into these situations.
sebsy Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Makes you wonder, though, how they can release the likes of Paul London and Val Venis and yet retain the services of Snitsky.
Hyde Hill Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Hell make it harder for em to release ppl cost wise and they will ahve to think harder. As the quasi monopely they are now and the zero protections/rights for performers at the moment it makes it easy for em to hire but also fire.
James Casey Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 Because Snitsky's 6'8 and 330 pounds, and therefore is considerably more impressive to look at (and considerably more impressive to beat) then London and Venis (and D'Lo, and...) It's a case of covering your bases, and Snitsky offers something that some of the released guys don't - and that Bam Neeley doesn't either, despite having a similar physical presence. Snitsky's more impressive to look at, and that means he can be rolled out for his bi-monthly monster appearance. You don't need workrate to be Snitsky - you need to work out.
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