CQI13 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 http://views.washingtonpost.com/theleague/nflnewsfeed/2009/08/burress-reportedly-pleads-guilty.html Sentencing in about a month (Sept 22). Expected to be 20 months and then 2 years of supervised release. He'll be 34 when released. Will probably be suspended indefinitely from the NFL, suspension to be reviewed upon release, like Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Looks like his career is over, or atleast further success in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Let me get this straight, he accidentally shot himself in the leg and got picked up and arrested for weapon charges!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Does anyone else think it's a bit ridiculous that Plaxico could get 20 months for his stupidity that only hurt himself, while Donte Stallworth served less than a month for driving drunk and killing someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg71 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Let me get this straight, he accidentally shot himself in the leg and got picked up and arrested for weapon charges!? Yes. He shot himself in a crowded nightclub as the gun was not secured in a holster and came loose and fired as he grabbed for it when he felt it slipping down his leg, and he was in the greater NY area. My understanding is that in the NY city limits, and many of the burrows, guns are outlawed period...no permits, no nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 The gun laws in NYC are incredibly strict. That he shot himself in the leg is irrelevant. If you get stopped on a routine traffic violation and had drugs in the car, won't you get charged with possession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfRoMaN36 Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Yes. He shot himself in a crowded nightclub as the gun was not secured in a holster and came loose and fired as he grabbed for it when he felt it slipping down his leg, and he was in the greater NY area. My understanding is that in the NY city limits, and many of the burrows, guns are outlawed period...no permits, no nothing. You're right. The only people in NY that are allowed to hold guns are cops and armed security. I still think it's stupid that he goes to jail for his own stupidity for a longer term than a guy who starved dogs and made them fight each other to the death for profit. But that's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Does anyone else think it's a bit ridiculous that Plaxico could get 20 months for his stupidity that only hurt himself, while Donte Stallworth served less than a month for driving drunk and killing someone? No, I don't. I wish people would stop comparing all of the situations (Vick/Plax/Stallworth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 America. F*** Yeah!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 The gun laws in NYC are incredibly strict. That he shot himself in the leg is irrelevant. If you get stopped on a routine traffic violation and had drugs in the car, won't you get charged with possession? I can answer this one. Depends on where the drugs are. If they're in plain view, you deserve to get popped. If they're in your glove compartment or trunk and those are locked, you have to ALLOW the police to search your car (and if you do, you deserve to get popped). Otherwise they need a warrant or significant probable cause (and often both). Routine traffic violation is not probable cause to go searching someone's car. Calling in K9 units for routine traffic stops would look awesome on the news (and cost somebody their job for wasting department manpower & money). Fourth amendment, yay! I knew Plax was done. He picked the wrong time to do this stupid ****. With Mike Bloomberg spending millions of his own cash on getting re-elected, there was no way he was going to allow the most high profile, stupid violation of a mandatory minimum sentencing law get a deal that circumvents that. Especially not post-Michael Vick. But Afroman, you're wrong. It's not just police and security allowed to carry in NYC. Permits are also issued to people who transport and handle lots of valuables. Go to the Diamond District and just walk down the streets. You'll see some of the primarily Jewish store owners on their smoke breaks. Look at the areas around their underarms (they're packin'). Their permits might be a case of grandfathering but they do have them. If you're familiar with Jacob Arabo (aka 'Jacob the Jeweler'), he carries (though rarely nowadays). A lot of times it's cheaper to hire security than to deal with the possible legal liability if an incident occurs (it also jacks up your business insurance rates). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ACCBiggz" data-cite="ACCBiggz" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="24261" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No, I don't. I wish people would stop comparing all of the situations (Vick/Plax/Stallworth).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fine. </p><p> </p><p> I don't have a problem with the sentence for Plax, as New York evidently has very harsh penalties for gun possession. </p><p> </p><p> I believe Donte Stallworth deserved more than 30 (or 28, whatever it was) days in jail for driving while intoxicated and killing a man in the process.</p><p> </p><p> How's that?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Better lawyer. It could be a situation where the other guy was jay-walking or just as inebriated. I don't know anything about the case but judging by the low sentance I'd make a couple guesses</p><p> </p><p> 1) He wasn't that drunk. Maybe he was right at the line?</p><p> 2) Something was up with the victim to discredit him. Maybe he was drunk or had previous criminal charges. From what I've seen, victims who are able to be painted as "undesirables" lose a lot of the sympathy factor that gets big time sentances. I'm betting he wasn't a loving father of 4 coming back from volunteering at a soup kitchin.</p><p> 3) It was considered an accident (i.e. the guy jumped out at him or his tires skidded on a puddle or some other act of nature resulted in the death, not just bad driving). </p><p> 4) Really friggin poweful lawyer.</p><p> 5) Really friggin incomptent prosecutor.</p><p> </p><p> Here you go:</p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="24261" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> A Miami Beach police report said Reyes was not in a crosswalk on busy MacArthur Causeway when he was struck by the black 2005 Bentley luxury car driven by Stallworth. The construction crane operator was trying to catch a bus home after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He was jaywalking. Also if you look at the sentance although Stallworth only got 30 days in jail, he's on an 8 year probation and 2 year house arrest I believe. You can definitely see the workings of a good lawyer in that sentance but it's also not like the 30 days is the only thing he was sentanced to.</p><p> </p><p> I agree, he should've gotten more jail time but /shrug that's the system.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CQI13 Posted August 20, 2009 Author Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Stallworth was drunk, and I believe also had marijuana in his system. It was not an accident, as apparently Stallworth honked and flashed his lights before hitting him.</p><p> </p><p> In fact, the same thing happened in this case. A plea deal. Stallworth pleaded guilty and paid the family I forget how much. Plaxico pleaded guilty and only got 20 months. He was looking at a minimum of 3-3½ years if convicted (but probably more).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 [off-topic]About laws.. I hate to read about when a rapist gets a year from his doings, whereas if someone burns a church he'll get four years in prison. That's just insane to me. Should really be the other way around.[/off-topic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FINisher" data-cite="FINisher" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="24261" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>[off-topic]About laws.. I hate to read about when a rapist gets a year from his doings, whereas if someone burns a church he'll get four years in prison. That's just insane to me. Should really be the other way around.[/off-topic]</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The issue is that no case is cut & dry. I agree that rapists should be put into a bag and drowned into a river, but for every case that's clear cut "good/evil" there's another that blurs the line when you dig into the details.</p><p> </p><p> Slightly off topic but proves that point, I remember when the lady got millions of dollars off of mcdonalds because she spilled hot coffee on her lap and got burned. People were outraged at that and mocked her and the courts saying how stupid it was.</p><p> </p><p> Then you learn the real facts about the case, like how she didn't "spill" the coffee, that it melted through the bottom of her cup giving her 3rd degree (yeah, like the serious kind) burns all across her pelvis requiring numerous skin grafts. About how that mcdonalds had their coffe temperature at nearly 200 degrees farenheit, way beyond the safety ratings of both the cups and human tolerance because the manager said that "everybody got their coffee on their way to work, so they didn't drink it now, but still wanted it hot after 30 minutes" or some inane reason.</p><p> </p><p> Then add to that she only asked for the cost of medical bills (I think in the range of a couple tens of thousands) but Mcdonalds refused, and the court system awarded her the huge amount more as punishment to the McDonalds for its saftey violations.</p><p> </p><p> The thing about the justice system is that it looks at each case as a unique occurance, so you can't just cut and dry compare 1 arson sentance of 4 years vs. 1 rape sentance of 1 year. So many factors go into it, the situation which the crime occurs, the character that is established around the victim and the defendant, the misc. punishments of fines, legal fees, community service and probation, the credibility of witnesses, the competency of the lawyers and judges involved...</p><p> </p><p> There's a reason why crimes are listed with such a wide range of time served. So maybe rape is 1-20 years while arson is 1-5 years. It's easy looking at the whole range to see which is worse from the system's perspective but the reason the range exists is because some people get "lucky" to get a lighter sentance while others get made an example of for various reasons.</p><p> </p><p> edit: On a more personal note, an ex-uncle of mine (mother's sister's ex-husband) was recently convicted of voyuerism on minors. He'd spy on young girls (early teens). Now, outsiders looked at that and write it off, saying he's a horrible deviant and that he should be castrated or burned or thrown in jail for an ongodly amount of time, and on one hand I agree. On the other hand, I knew him and his background. He was horribly abused as a child, physically and sexually and it turns out that people who are sexually abused tend to fixate on that age range. He didn't actually harm anyone (he wasn't a rapist or a thief or anything). He was just severely messed up because of his upbringing and made some very poor choices. Now from that perspective, he doesn't deserve jail time, but psychiatric care. Which side are you on.../shrug. The point is that for every demon you can turn around and paint him as a victim given the right light. Which is right, who can say, but a good court system will weigh both sides before levelling punishment.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Edwards Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 FIN in Aermica we have the 3 strike rule. yeah the rapist might only get 1-3 years for his first time but his 2nd time is 10-15 and 3rd time is life plus Rapist in America are lowest scum in prison and alot of them get the crap beat out of them when they get in prison. and if he was a kid that got raped they are almost always kill if they aren't taken out of General Pop before they other prisoners find out about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Why I always fall into these traps in these kind of topics.. I always say something stupid when I don't think things trough and then the next guy gives a perfect reply.</p><p> </p><p> <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfRoMaN36 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="24261" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> But Afroman, you're wrong. It's not just police and security allowed to carry in NYC. Permits are also issued to people who transport and handle lots of valuables. Go to the Diamond District and just walk down the streets. You'll see some of the primarily Jewish store owners on their smoke breaks. Look at the areas around their underarms (they're packin'). Their permits might be a case of grandfathering but they do have them. If you're familiar with Jacob Arabo (aka 'Jacob the Jeweler'), he carries (though rarely nowadays). A lot of times it's cheaper to hire security than to deal with the possible legal liability if an incident occurs (it also jacks up your business insurance rates).</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> Right, I knew that. I know many stores esspecially in more inner city areas, the shop keeper is packing. Never gave it much thought as to whether or not they had a license.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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