ACCBiggz Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="chris caulfield" data-cite="chris caulfield" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="24267" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wouldn't feel excited enough about a card with Bisping vs. Kang as the headline bout to go out and buy tickets for it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's only one fight though, you know there'll be 9-11 more fights on the card that'll be great. Guess I never understood buying tickets to the UFC based on one person or one fight.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 It isn't based on that one fight but if those were the biggest names on the whole card I wouldn't be too excited about watching it at home on tv even with the other 10 or so fights as they wouldn't have anyone that would really excite me either probably. Though if the Penn vs. Sanchez fight turns out to be true then I will definately try to pick up some tickets as Bisping is a good co-main event but isn't really a main eventer yet especially when you're only matching him up against Kang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodzillahotrod Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 well looks like it might be confirmed heres the link from wiki <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_105" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_105</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 If it is confirmed I shall probably book some tickets on the day they come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 I hope Hardy wins and Anthony Johnson wins at 104 so they fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 5AnimalsKungFu Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 <p>Carwin should win this with some ease.</p><p> Chase is facing Struve? That is great!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Does anyone know when UFC 105 tickets go on sale? If not how far in advance do tickets normally go on sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Tickets should already be on sale for UFC 105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 <p>Not been on the UFC website yet and they normally say like a week in advance of when the tickets go on sale.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Just checked and they are not on ticketmaster either and nor is the event even listed on the men arena schedule so I very much doubt they are officially on sale yet.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Brett Rogers vs. Fedor just announced today by Strikeforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Don't get me wrong here I think Rogers vs. Fedor is a good matchup and will be a good fight but don't you think it's abit to soon for Rogers to be fighting Fedor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Yeah but at least he has a strikers chance of knocking him out, will at least be interesting no matter what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 don't you think it's abit to soon for Rogers to be fighting Fedor? Absolutely not. 100% No. No. No. No, no, no. EXC/Strikeforce has been building Rogers up as the future of the Heavyweight division for quite some time now. With the signing of Fedor if you wait to make this fight you are basically saying this is Rogers' best shot at Fedor --- and when Fedor destroys him (presumably) you'll kill that star. With Brett earning the very first shot you can then play it off as a youngster not ready for the best heavyweight in the world and then if he gets back to winning you can build the re-match up in 18-24 months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennikKain076 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I agree with you Biggz, Rogers has nothing to lose. I think Strikeforce should match up Overeem and Werdum in a title fight soon so the winners of these two fights could face off on a CBS card down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Didn't really mean in marketing terms as it clearly works there but I meant as in Rogers hasn't really earned his shot at Fedor. The biggest win he has is over Arlovski who he knocked out which isn't as big as it seems as we all knew Rogers had heavy hands and we also knew Arlovski had a glass chin. Other then Arlovski he hasn't really beaten anyone else. We have never really seen Rogers ground game so he still isn't proven there. So yeah for Strikeforce this should be a big fight and hopefully a success but for Rogers maybe he is taking it a step to quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 No one in Strikeforce "earned" a shot at Fedor in terms of Heavyweight rankings. And the win over Arlovski put him in or close to the top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Already mentioned why I wasn't overly impressed by Rogers win over Arlovski. You say there aren't other people who could fight Fedor, well what about Werdum or Overeem who in my opinion deserve the shot more but would also provide more of a challenge for Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Overeem is still injured, and for all purposes vastly overrated. But Strikeforce and, iirc, Fedor have said they want one fight in Strikeforce before that title fight. Werdum is someone who lost to Arlovski, had a controversial win over Vera (Early stoppage), and then KTFO by dos Santos. The Mike Kyle win was his FIRST fight and obviously win since being KO'd. Rogers is undefeated and quickly beat Arlovski, who was considered a top teir heavyweight and already beat Werdum. Regardless of Arlovski's chin which people knew was weak, and then post-Fedor KO it seemed like 2 million people joined the bandwagon of "Arlovski has a glass chin and therefore not legit". Arlovski was the only other top ranked heavyweight for Fedor besides Barnett at the time, and he got caught doing something stupid --- it happens. To totally discredit Arlovski because of that is a bit much regardless of his chin - there are tons of fighters with weak chins... yet Arlovski somehow managed to work around his and became a top heavyweight, and Rogers bumrushed him and got the victory, not sure what else you want the kid to do. And as I stated this is the best for Rogers. A step too qick? As I said if you wait you are basically throwing a rematch out of the window by waiting and it says this is the best chance Rogers will ever have at Fedor. By doing it now, if/when he loses, it is played off as him not being ready for that type of competition. And for his career it's probably best that he fights Fedor and learns from the loss. And 18-24 months down the line you can have the re-match... same result? Probably, but at least you did give Rogers the chance to be tested, improve, and then get the second fight in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Brett Rogers vs. Fedor just announced today by Strikeforce. yes! i hope this is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Hope? I stated right there that Strikeforce announced it. Not a site, the promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Whatever but when Rogers gets subbed in the first round people will carry on asking why Fedor is fighting cans. Not saying Rogers will get subbed in the first round but that is definately my prediction, but as always Rogers has a punchers chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 Whatever but when Rogers gets subbed in the first round people will carry on asking why Fedor is fighting cans. And those are the same people who have no idea who Josh Barnett is. They are the casual fans. From all that I've seen so far it's been a positive response from "hardcore" fans in the fight announcement. And you can say "whatever" but the fact is that this is a good fight to make and the reasons are very valid. This fight doesn't hurt anyone and only helps Strikeforce and their heavyweight division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMcFly Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Absolutely not. 100% No. No. No. No, no, no. EXC/Strikeforce has been building Rogers up as the future of the Heavyweight division for quite some time now. With the signing of Fedor if you wait to make this fight you are basically saying this is Rogers' best shot at Fedor --- and when Fedor destroys him (presumably) you'll kill that star. With Brett earning the very first shot you can then play it off as a youngster not ready for the best heavyweight in the world and then if he gets back to winning you can build the re-match up in 18-24 months time. Very Intelligent Analogy, Completely Agree with this http://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/00020114.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris caulfield Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 Fine never said it was a bad fight to make I said I think it is abit to early for someone like Rogers to be fighting Fedor. I like the the fight and will enjoy watching it but I won't be wondering who is going to win as it will be the same as before the Arlovski vs. Rogers fight where I knew Arlovski whould win unless Rogers got the KO and it is exactly the same circumstances here. If I was Rogers then I wouldn't like tose odds and that is all I'm really trying to say. Also how does it help the Heavyweight Division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 27, 2009 Author Share Posted August 27, 2009 abit to early for someone like Rogers to be fighting Fedor. Again, if you wait to make that fight you are saying that is the best chance Rogers will ever have and then effectively kill his star. Also how does it help the Heavyweight Division? Strikeforce has essentially 3 heavyweight contenders for Fedor... that's counting Overeem who is under FEG contract and injured from a bar fight. You have basically 1-2 and MAYBE 3 fights with Fedor. By having Rogers first you can play it exactly how I stated above and even sell the fight on him KO'ing Arlovski faster than Fedor. Young rising star with KO power vs. #1 Heavyweight, etc etc etc. And as I mentioned before, if he loses it may be the best thing to happen to his career training wise as well, and if he picks up wins after that like Strikeforce was building him slowly... you end up with a 3rd or 4th fight. So you get an extra fight, which means more time to build and sign more heavyweights to the division. If you have Fedor run through Werdum and then Rogers or Overeem (depending on health) you are left with no one and the destruction didn't take very long. This fight helps the long term plans of the company and division. It's also a marketable fight to sell and doesn't hurt anyone except Fedor IF (lol) he loses to Rogers, which in turn makes Rogers a fairly big star for being "The One" regardless of how you beat Fedor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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