Linsolv Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I dunno. I can't really compare. Can we have Danielson crap in a diva's handbag so we can find out the rough comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEdgeOfReason Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 how much money do you wanna bet that this wouldnt have happend if triple h, john cena or randy orton had choked that crappy anouncer Of course it wouldn't. There is a huge difference between those guys and Danielson. If Danielson had done this in a year or two, when he would have been established at or near the top of the card, he wouldn't have been fired either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilts Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I can't help but think, if it is to do with the PG image, etc, then why exactly is it a problem? My understanding is that RAW is shown after the watershed, so the kids shouldn't be watching at that time anyway, and if they are then it is the parents responsibility rather than the TV network/show. They can then edit it out of any replays (as they have done) which the kids then watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I dunno. I can't really compare. Can we have Danielson crap in a diva's handbag so we can find out the rough comparison? I don't remember who the chick was, but she went on record to say that it was only baby oil and other lotions she already had in the bag - he just dumped it all in. I guess he apologized to her about it too. Randy Orton had the personality of Jay Chord before he got married and had a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i wonder how many daniel bryan signs wwe will take of fans at raw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i wonder how many daniel bryan signs wwe will take of fans at raw Eh, probably not that many. The average WWE fan hasn't seen enough of the guy to be very upset with his firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Celt Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Eh, probably not that many. The average WWE fan hasn't seen enough of the guy to be very upset with his firing. Oh, one can dream... Michael Cole: As of friday, Daniel Bryan has been released from the WWE for his part in the VINTAGE assault on John Cena! Crowd: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/Aidanbro111/nxtshockedrawfans.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Oh, one can dream... Michael Cole: As of friday, Daniel Bryan has been released from the WWE for his part in the VINTAGE assault on John Cena! Crowd: http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o291/Aidanbro111/nxtshockedrawfans.gif i bet that bitch is the outside source that complained Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Celt Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 You mean that lady dog -laz-, but no, it was someone of power, not a random crowd mark who paid to see the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 saw this in someones sig at ROH forums i think this might be why he got fired cena went crying to vinny mac http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f167/penterhouse/ebw2/danielson-spits-in-cena-s-face-o.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I am still willing to bet money that it is a work...........he is not going to show up on raw......or anything till bennet takes on cena for the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i really dont think wwe writers have the intelligence to put this kinda thing together And just think, this from a company that gave us Katie Vick, people being set on fire, someone being runover, and many more similar angles... ...and the company that gave us the HBK/Undertaker fued, the Triple H/Randy Orton buildup to Wrestlemania, the Edge/Matt Hardy fued(this is the important one, remember how many people thought Hardy attacking Edge was a shoot)...you name me 5 bad angles/storylines, and I'll give you 50 good to great ones. The idea that the WWE writers somehow aren't the best in the world at what they do(seriously, just watch TNA if you think WWE writers are bad), or are suddenly incapable of brilliance, is ridiculous. I am still willing to bet money that it is a work...........he is not going to show up on raw......or anything till bennet takes on cena for the title. Yep. They're putting so much work into making people buy it(even letting Bryan do indy bookings, as of the latest reports), it's setting up for a huge return. I've yet to see even the slightest hint of evidence that this is legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 lol yeah because they have never let roh use the wwe in an angle or anything before right? Mr. punk would like to say hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I am still willing to bet money that it is a work...........he is not going to show up on raw......or anything till bennet takes on cena for the title. Bennet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 One of the biggest reasons I still think this could be a work is the recent change where they now have their guys remain "in character" on Twitter. To me, that suggests an effort to maintain kayfabe even on the Net, something they never seemed to be concerned with before. I've read Meltzer say it wouldn't make sense for this to be a work, since they'd be "working" the higher ups in the company as well...but who says they aren't in on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 i wouldnt put it passed wwe to change who the masked guy is in SES to daniel bryan danielson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd1 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 One of the biggest reasons I still think this could be a work is the recent change where they now have their guys remain "in character" on Twitter. To me, that suggests an effort to maintain kayfabe even on the Net, something they never seemed to be concerned with before. I've read Meltzer say it wouldn't make sense for this to be a work, since they'd be "working" the higher ups in the company as well...but who says they aren't in on it? I agree. Every time I read this argument it just doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of whether this is a work or not (I've change my mind about 16 times), what possible difference does it make if the 'higher-ups' said they knew about it? It seems to me that if you're going to pull off a work of this magnitude, then you'd have cover all bases including anyone who might possibly be asked the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Jim Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Anyone else think Vince McMahon wouldn't give a flying flip about "higher-ups"? In relation to him, they aren't higher-ups, they're lower-downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-laz- Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I agree. Every time I read this argument it just doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of whether this is a work or not (I've change my mind about 16 times), what possible difference does it make if the 'higher-ups' said they knew about it? It seems to me that if you're going to pull off a work of this magnitude, then you'd have cover all bases including anyone who might possibly be asked the question. youv also gotta think of it from wwe's point of view he's barely been in wwe 6 months if someone needs to be a scapegoat he is a perfect choice i just hope it is a work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 No it's not, because he was told by his employer to do that violent thing on TV. Thus it's his employer's fault for telling him to do it. Really? I mean, did WWE really tell Danielson to strangle someone realistically? Or spit in someone's face? Maybe they did, but I find that extremely unlikely. heres an idea what if suicide returns tonight at slammiversery but is actually danielson wwe would have no way of proving its him due to it being a full body suit I'm sure WWE could get a court order find out. Not that that's going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Really? I mean, did WWE really tell Danielson to strangle someone realistically? Or spit in someone's face? Maybe they did, but I find that extremely unlikely. I think they'll have told them to be honest, he would't go that far if he wasn't told to, he's not stupid. That doesn't influence my view of whether it's a work as they could easily do that then fire him anyway, but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEdgeOfReason Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Really? I mean, did WWE really tell Danielson to strangle someone realistically? Or spit in someone's face? Maybe they did, but I find that extremely unlikely. I'm sure WWE could get a court order find out. Not that that's going to happen. I'm pretty sure he was told to spit in Cena's face. At the very least he would have spoken to Cena about it before hand. You don't spit in a guys face unless he is aware I'd say. Cena easily could have slugged him otherwise. The choke could have been a spur of the moment thing, or he could have been told to do it. WWE could pretty easily find out if he did play Suicide tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Who knows with the strangling, but why do you find it extremely unlikely that they would tell him to spit in Cena's face? As someone mentioned, spitting on someone was a big part of an angle in this company, what, 2-3 months ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tad091 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I know this is one of my first posts, but highlight below for possible spoilers. Despite the fact that the NXT Season 1 rookies were all portrayed as heels on Monday’s RAW during the NXT invasion, Justin Gabriel wrestled at Thursday’s FCW tapings as a babyface and did not wear his NXT black armband. David Otunga wrestled on the same show, worked as a heel and wore the black & yellow “N” armband the NXT crew wore on RAW. Credit - Wrestling Observer Newsletter & SESCOOPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdWarrior Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Danielson just Tweeted: Biding my time, waiting for the right moment to speak. Not sure what that might mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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