James Casey Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 With '10 so close, I'm sure most people are winding down games in '08 - or have given up all together! For some of us, '08 has been a part of our lives for the last eighteen months, and we've come to know it inside and out. Some of the workers can feel like family. Others... not so much. For me, I struggle to imagine a situation where I could ever trust Casey Valentine with a push in the new game. He's been a pain in the backside for me for eighteen months, unable to justify the money he earns, the push he 'warrants' or his unshakable position on the MAW roster. I've tried to keep him relatively strong to cope with what would have been the owner goals if I'd played Straight Edge, but I would have loved to just can him. It's a shame as he was a bright star for me in '07, on the cusp of becoming a major player when '08 was released, and I had high hopes - but he's just been a letdown in almost every match I've put him in. So, who will you be ignoring in '10 after they failed their auditions in the last game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNeck Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I hear you about Casey Valentine, JC. He even looks like a d-bag to boot. I will avoid Rocky Golden like a public toilet seat forever more. And not because he's been a backstage cancer, but moreso because I can't wrap my mind around who he is and how to book him properly. I even tried to turn him into a Goldust knock-off, something especially different, and found myself bored and unsure with even that character. There's just something about him I can't figure out. I had the same problem with KC Glenn. The guy has all the room in the world to grow into a servicable upper-carder but for some reason I cannot figure out what to do with him. And that for me is usually the end of any interest I have in them. Sometimes the renders really set me on a path, creatively, while other times they stump me totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudo_Nym Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Stevie Grayson and Air Attack Weasel. Both look so great, but every time I try to hire them, they always turn out to be more expensive then they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Stevie Grayson and Air Attack Weasel. Both look so great, but every time I try to hire them, they always turn out to be more expensive then they're worth. The Weasel is ALWAYS worth it. Best seller in the game, period. Grayson, though? Unless I'm Cult or higher, or rolling in cash, I ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoNeck Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I forgot about Stevie "Cena-Head" Grayson. For a big promotion he's a waste of space, especially if you're looking for someone to push. Maybe as job fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I always use Grayson to job in my cruiser/t.v title area. He's got the name value to put over lower rated guys. Ota, Grayson, Griffith, etc are all my go to guys to put over my Devine's, Champions, Davids, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I will avoid Rocky Golden like a public toilet seat forever more. And not because he's been a backstage cancer, but moreso because I can't wrap my mind around who he is and how to book him properly. I even tried to turn him into a Goldust knock-off, something especially different, and found myself bored and unsure with even that character. There's just something about him I can't figure out. Golden is frustrating because his star quality is so off the charts amazing but he doesn't really have any other skills and there isn't really a naturally fitting gimmick for him. I had a similar experience where I brought him into SWF (signing away the then TCW champion), but despite what should have been a landmark signing, I couldn't find anything to do for him. At first I decided to job him down the card to team with Valiant in the tag division, but he had awful chemistry with Valiant in the house shows. But the great thing was, even though he spent a solid year in limbo before I gave him a push as North American champion, he was so easy to keep over despite doing next to nothing. But since SWF already has a guy like that, but better (Joe Sexy), Golden's not really worth it. I don't know I'm a weird guy in that I never learn my lesson. New game, new slate. I'm looking forward to running SWF and trying to keep Remo under control while he calls people stupid and spits at fans and otherwise acts like the world's biggest jerk. It's a tricky balancing act, since with the new features he can make the whole locker room worse, but on the other hand he's too big a star to just let him go to TCW, since it would hurt our prestige. Basically I want to build up a bunch of guys into superstars, and then pal around with them Eric Bischoff style while they piss off all the old-timers like Enforcer Roberts (who is kind of a jerk anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I always looked at Golden as the C Verse's Lex Luger. Great look, superstar quality out the ying yang but barely any talent at all. So I just book him as that a power guy that with a great look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Takayuki 2000 and Kiminoku Kuroki. With all these new features concerning backstage moral, worker relations and personalities taken into effect, I just don't see these two surviving long in my GCG, should I start a save with them. A lot of this is down to speculation; We have no idea what the gameworld will be like, not even the guys on the dev team I've heard as they've just been playing with a converted TEW08 database. Who knows if Takayuki 2000 and Kuroki have become great friends with the owner of GCG whoever that might be. Perhaps daddy Furusawa has died and Mabuchi has taken over, you never know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazorbeak Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I always looked at Golden as the C Verse's Lex Luger. Great look, superstar quality out the ying yang but barely any talent at all. So I just book him as that a power guy that with a great look. Well for me at least I see his A* star quality and I'm like "there's my next world champion!" But then he gets a gimmick rating of C+ and he can't do better than a B when he's in the ring with Christian Faith himself despite both of them being pretty over and having good momentum. I get the sense that he would be one of the very best guys to build a growing cult promotion around: he would be booked like the second coming of Sam Strong in a promotion like USPW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I had Golden get an A* match with Faith, actually. Not long after I added Golden in my SWF diary. Faith was A* at the time, but Golden was only about B+ or A over. Lex Luger is the vision I always used for Golden as well. A guy with a look who could talk a bit, but is really only going to look good in the ring when he's against a great worker. In retrospect, I should have put Golden into development for 2-3 months before debuting him, at which point he likely would have been signficantly more useful. There are a number of workers I signed in games who I wouldn't add again, but it was usually due to them not having in use in that promotion (for various reasons) rather than the worker themselves being useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Their are no damaged goods because workers tend to vary drastically in importance between versions. The Runaway Train from TEW 08 is a lot better than 07 because of the Menace stat for instance. And don't even mention the change from '04 to '05. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigas Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Whenever I play USPW I always forget about Des Davids. And I agree about Grayson. Not good enough for bigger feds and too expensive for cheaper ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 You know what I love. Whenever I mention something about non-US Cornellverse, no one ever replies to anything I've just said as they just keep speaking about USPW/SWF/TCW guys. Pisses me off. We need more love for Japan! Mexico! UK! Europe! I really hope that I could somehow lure more people into playing something other than US-based feds on TEW10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolinc Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't really have anybody I wouldn't give a second chance to, but Xaiver Reckless might be that guy. That douche just can't keep his mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 You know what I love. Whenever I mention something about non-US Cornellverse, no one ever replies to anything I've just said as they just keep speaking about USPW/SWF/TCW guys. For you, FIN, I promise to try out Mexico in '10. It's the one continent I've not at least looked at in the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudo_Nym Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 For you, FIN, I promise to try out Mexico in '10. It's the one continent I've not at least looked at in the last two games. Somebody needs a geography refresher course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I play Mexico. Only two guys come to mind: The Luna Twins. For some reason I always hire them and try to turn them into a good team, but they always fail to deliver good matches or get over. Something similar happens with the Cano Brothers. I like their look, but they never seem to get over. The opposite happens with El Hijo del Mephisto. He has a good look, gets over reasonably fast, but fails to deliver in the ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman1624 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I forget if Kuroki was causing trouble, but I did can him in my most recent GCG game. I think he wanted a lot of money, and had been a problem, so I let him go to improve the backstage morale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonfaro Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 If theres a way to fire Emerald Angel without ticking off the higher ups of WLW, I'll do it. You're 21 moron. What do you need creative control for? - Sonfaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeldelayette Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Two words: Jay Chord. Need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 You know what I love. Whenever I mention something about non-US Cornellverse, no one ever replies to anything I've just said as they just keep speaking about USPW/SWF/TCW guys. Pisses me off. We need more love for Japan! Mexico! UK! Europe! I really hope that I could somehow lure more people into playing something other than US-based feds on TEW10. How could anyone not love PGHW wrestling and their god roster? United States has the more fun products though, you can have your top stars wrestle every single day and not have them get fatigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOnu Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Ed Larkins aka Phenomenal E. F that guy ! Maybe some people remember my short lived 4C diary, but in this one, even before I could run my very first show, that idiot gets caught for using steroïds ! I kissed my prestige bye-bye as it went down to zero. I hate Larkins with a passion now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingOfKings Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'm praying for a Sports Entertainment comedy based Joshi promotion to have debuted. I just can't get into the serious Joshi wrestlers in 5SSW, I always want to stay far far away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Takayuki 2000 and Kiminoku Kuroki. With all these new features concerning backstage moral, worker relations and personalities taken into effect, I just don't see these two surviving long in my GCG, should I start a save with them. A lot of this is down to speculation; We have no idea what the gameworld will be like, not even the guys on the dev team I've heard as they've just been playing with a converted TEW08 database. Who knows if Takayuki 2000 and Kuroki have become great friends with the owner of GCG whoever that might be. Perhaps daddy Furusawa has died and Mabuchi has taken over, you never know.. In my defense, Japan is the ONLY area of the C-Verse I don't have too much knowledge in. The only longterm Japanese game I've ever played was in the 75 mod with QUEST. I will say that, in Europe, I'm not too fond of Dr. Insane. His off the chart charisma is counteracted by poor Star Quality, which makes me think "wow, this guy is gonna ROCK in EWA!!!" And then he never gets any more over, despite his microphone skills, and then he starts causing backstage problems and demanding title shots. But I can't justify giving the man a title, on account that every storyline he's in falls to crap, even when the angles are based soley on his ability to work a microphone. The only real use I've found for him is to train up other folks' ability to talk on the microphone, and he's not bad as a mentor/manager sorta figure. I think what annoys me the most is the fact I've gotten guys like The Idaho Punisher over in SE feds (who has significantly less SQ, no charisma, on average Menace, and, well... is a somewhat better wrestler than Dr. Insane). Meanwhile, Doctor Insane just falls flat. Oh well, guess I'll give him ANOTHER try once UCR is up and running in that there 2005 C-Verse mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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