StudioStu Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I had to start this thread because I was curious as to what everyone thinks of the current Hall of Fame. I was browsing through and I see William "The Refrigerator" Perry? So the guy makes one appearance at a Wrestlemania and he's Hall of Fame material? Sorry I just don't get it. Don't get me wrong, Perry is a very much accomplished and well respected NFL alumni, but WWE Hall of Fame? Kinda tarnishes the prestige in my opinion. So, is there anyone else on the WWE Hall of Fame that you disagree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Fridge is in there as a "celebrity inductee". Same as Pete Rose. So at least they are acknolwedged to be there for a different reason than a wrestler. Honestly, I kinda see the HoF as a bit of a joke still. It seems like the E have tried to lend it a degree of legitimacy by bringing in guys who contributed a lot to the business, even if it wasn't to the WWF/WWE. But when guys like Koko B. Ware and Nokolai Volkoff are in there but Randy Savage and Bruno Sammartino aren't... its a joke. Its a nice acknowlegement for those who do get in, but I can't see it as a true "honor". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Fridge is in there as a "celebrity inductee". Same as Pete Rose. So at least they are acknolwedged to be there for a different reason than a wrestler. Honestly, I kinda see the HoF as a bit of a joke still. It seems like the E have tried to lend it a degree of legitimacy by bringing in guys who contributed a lot to the business, even if it wasn't to the WWF/WWE. But when guys like Koko B. Ware and Nokolai Volkoff are in there but Randy Savage and Bruno Sammartino aren't... its a joke. Its a nice acknowlegement for those who do get in, but I can't see it as a true "honor". I wouldn't say its not an honor, but the lack of some names does diminish its value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudioStu Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Oh I didn't realize they were acknowledged as celebrity entries, that makes it a bit better. I second that Savage and Bruno especially should be in. So, who are some other people that should be in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I wouldn't say its not an honor, but the lack of some names does diminish its value. I'm sure inducted feel honored. But my perception as a fan is that since there are no true induction criteria, no real bar which must be met, then its taking away the value of the recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'm sure inducted feel honored. But my perception as a fan is that since there are no true induction criteria, no real bar which must be met, then its taking away the value of the recognition. But it is Pro Wrestling what kind of criteria could you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde Hill Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't believe in the WWE hall of fame I think the wrestling observer's one is much more accurate. Seeing as Vince basically decides who goes in his hall, for god sake his limo driver is in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 But it is Pro Wrestling what kind of criteria could you have? Any kind you want. TEW can do it for the Hall of Immortals. Reality is a bit more complicated, of course, but you can still put some sort of criteria on there. Right now, its "who has maintained a good relationship with Vince and can be counted onto come in and say the right things?" That's it. Again, I don't think its going to change how those inducted feel about it. And some fans are not going to care. But I just can't see it having much in the way of legitimacy, even for a wrestling Hall of Fame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomKing Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'd be hard pushed to pick anybody from the list of inductees that doesn't deserve to be there. Sure, there are perhaps more deserving people that could and should be hall of famers, but perhaps their time will come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'd be hard pushed to pick anybody from the list of inductees that doesn't deserve to be there. Sure, there are perhaps more deserving people that could and should be hall of famers, but perhaps their time will come. Koko B. Ware. I have no idea why he's there. I liked him back in the day, but he was never more than a midcarder in the WWE and I'm not sure he was much more than a midcarder in any promotion of note. Even guys like Ivan Putski and Nikolai Volkoff are iffy. I always liked Volkoff, but its not like he was a major player for the WWE for any extended periods. Whereas Bruno was the ace for the WWWF for nearly two decades... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't believe in the WWE hall of fame I think the wrestling observer's one is much more accurate. Seeing as Vince basically decides who goes in his hall, for god sake his limo driver is in it. My only problem with using the WO's hall of fame would be the lack of respect it (WO and Meltzer not it's HoF) seems to get from a lot of wrestlers (thinking about some of the shoots I have seen). If it doesn't mean anything to some of the biggest names in it, then why should it mean anything to me. Heck most of the people in it (at least I think their are still more from the first year then that have been added after) where just Dave deciding who gets in. Now it is Dave and people in wrestling who talk to Dave. Though it does seem to be a quality list, I just don't see a reason it should mean more then if any other fan or fans made a list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Yeah I think their hall of fame is a joke as well. I said this a few months ago on here and everybody jumped all over me basically saying that I was wrong. I am just glad that there are some people who agree with me now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 My only problem with using the WO's hall of fame would be the lack of respect it (WO and Meltzer not it's HoF) seems to get from a lot of wrestlers (thinking about some of the shoots I have seen). If it doesn't mean anything to some of the biggest names in it, then why should it mean anything to me. Heck most of the people in it (at least I think their are still more from the first year then that have been added after) where just Dave deciding who gets in. Now it is Dave and people in wrestling who talk to Dave. Though it does seem to be a quality list, I just don't see a reason it should mean more then if any other fan or fans made a list. So if you have issue with WO HoF for someone basically arbitrarily deciding who gets inducted based on their own personal biases, I assume you have the same issue with the WWE HoF as its pretty much the same deal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 So if you have issue with WO HoF for someone basically arbitrarily deciding who gets inducted based on their own personal biases, I assume you have the same issue with the WWE HoF as its pretty much the same deal.... That was one of the points I was trying to make. The other (which I did a bad job of) was I would think the WWE one means more to the wrestlers then WO one. More so as more Wrestlers seem to respect Vince over Dave and too add to it, the WWE HoF is kind of like when a company gives a watch or something to an employee for long or exemplary service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 That was one of the points I was trying to make. The other (which I did a bad job of) was I would think the WWE one means more to the wrestlers then WO one. More so as more Wrestlers seem to respect Vince over Dave and too add to it, the WWE HoF is kind of like when a company gives a watch or something to an employee for long or exemplary service. Good analogy. And that's pretty much why I think the WWE HoF is more about a recognition than a true honor. I know its comparing a legit sport to a worked one, but when I think of a true honor, I look at the baseball or football HoF's. Getting in there makes you one of the greatest ever. Clearly not the case with the WWE HoF. That was the original point I was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfRoMaN36 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Your mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudioStu Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 It'd be nice if all of the wrestling companies could organize a HOF. Until then, let's start up our own! First inductee...Bruno Sammartino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterded Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 It'd be nice if all of the wrestling companies could organize a HOF. Until then, let's start up our own! First inductee...Bruno Sammartino. What wrestling companies do you mean by all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Second inductee: David Arquette! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudioStu Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 What wrestling companies do you mean by all? Perhaps I didn't think that through. What I was trying to say was it'd be nice if there were some central committee for all of wrestling to determine the Hall of Fame. Second inductee: David Arquette! Maybe for the WWE HOF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 the Meltzer and the Observer Newsletter have a HOF I'd say thats pretty accurate as to a general HOF as any. What I'd like is the WWE to get a physical HOF that you can go visit I think that'd be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alden Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 There is this..... http://www.pwhf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHilton Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Interesting topic. Have to say I agree with BigPapa; the WWE HOF, while being a nice event and an emotional night and generally a terrific way to highlight the history of the company and the careers of many that would've otherwise been forgotten by the public, I don't really see it as a true "honor." As has been said, the criteria seems to be that you have a good working relationship with Vince and/or the WWE is interested in marketing your video catalog. So you end up with situations like Koko B Ware and Nikolai Volkoff in the Hall, but Bruno isn't, Randy Savage isn't, Lou Thesz isn't, Bob Backlund isn't, and there are no foreign stars despite the fact that guys like Antonio Inoki, El Santo, and Mil Mascaras had a decent amount of success in the states. (and seriously, Bob Backlund and Bruno Sammartino????? It would be like having a baseball HOF and not inducting Mickey Mantle and Babe Ruth) So yeah..it's a bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't know about you guys, but I never really liked Bob Backlund. IMO he was a boring wrestler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I don't know about you guys, but I never really liked Bob Backlund. IMO he was a boring wrestler. Did you watch him at all in his prime, during his first WWE title run? Besides, boring or not, he was a primary draw for the WWE (actually WWWF then) for a long period and held the belt for nearly four years. Back when being the world champion was still a major position and role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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