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Discovering the origins of wrestling sims, while waiting for TEW 2010

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While you guys are waiting for the demo, perhaps some of you would like to discover the origins of wrestling sims and play a few antiques?

 

http://pwse.zanysite.com/

 

This site is a revival of the PWSE, by founder Jason Patterson, to celebrate the 20th anniversary of PWSE.

 

For those who don't know, the PWSE was the hub for all things simmy going back many years. Anybody who was anybody on the wrestling sim scene, back when there was a scene, was on PWSE, making annoucements and hyping sims that more often than not, by a wide margin, would never come to be.

 

There, you will find some old sims. Some very old sims. Dating back to the 90's. You can play some of those and see how far sims have come.

 

And when you play TEW 2010, you'll see it as even more awesome than it is!

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WOW--PWSE. That sure is a blast from the past. No clue how I stumbled upon that site back in the day, but it was responsible for introducing me to wrestling sims. Played a bunch of them before discovering one of Ryland's pre-EWR games...either EWD or an earlier version. And I remember thinking, "There's no way this game can be topped."

 

Thankfully, I was very wrong. :D

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http://web.archive.org/web/20050202042508/http://pwse.net/

http://web.archive.org/web/20000918045931/pwse.iwarp.com/

 

Aah...good times...good times...

I can't believe I've been playing these games for so long...

 

Just went on a little nostalgia hunt on web.archive.org found some interesting things...

 

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20000619181934/http://members.aol.com/exwarfare1/private/index.html

 

 

NOOOO!

What will we do...

Oh... wait...

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719112151/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=18 <---Broken

 

LOL

Adam Ryland and Adam Jennings are fictional characters created by "Tom E. Cornell" hmmm...

 

http://web.archive.org/web/20011110155658/pwse.iwarp.com/art_writingwrestlingsim-ryland.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20011110161248/pwse.iwarp.com/art_writingwrestlingsim2-ryland.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010726003018/pwse.iwarp.com/art_writingwrestlingsim3-ryland.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20011110152600/pwse.iwarp.com/art_rylandconfession.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20010802023520/pwse.iwarp.com/art_finalarticle-ar.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20011110155214/pwse.iwarp.com/art_ryland-misfit.html

 

Broken:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719123027/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=39

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719122357/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=37

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719121736/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=34

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719111617/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=15

http://web.archive.org/web/20030719202438/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6

http://web.archive.org/web/20030907205703/www.pwse.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=5

 

Some classic stuff right there.

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http://web.archive.org/web/20050202042508/http://pwse.net/

http://web.archive.org/web/20000918045931/pwse.iwarp.com/

 

Aah...good times...good times...

I can't believe I've been playing these games for so long...

 

 

 

Some classic stuff right there.

 

There you go, Tommy Cornell created the world as we know it, the Internet Wayback Machine has the truth on EVERYTHING!

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This takes me back to those days. I remember when I started with Promotion Wars just after WCW was bought out by WWE. That was an interesting time just before the Invasion where WCW was kept as it's own company so you could work with a rebuilt roster against WWE, or WWF at the time.

 

Admittedly, I always preferred PW at first over EWD moreso because not being able to choose the winners on EWD threw me off a lot. I think I enjoyed EWD more when I went back years later and played moreso than I did at the time. When EWR came out though, PW became a thing of the past. I loved the RXPW and EWR updates though, the same with the TEW ones while they were around. They were really accurate and made for a lot of fun games. Back in the day when FLI was a little known secret in Canada and introduced me to LuFisto years before I'd actually see her wrestle.

 

It is amazing to think of how many years have gone by since these games started up. I remember going from Adam Ryland's Software Emporium to EWB to .400 Studios to here now on Greydog. It's a real testament to how great of a creator Adam is to be able to be churning out games like he has all these years.

 

PWSE was a great site, I remember going there and trying out a lot of the random simulators on there but none ever matches up to EWR at the time. It's good to see that it lives in on some form even today.

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JRev, your journey practically mirrors mine. My final year (late 2001 onwards) at university I found PWSE after a random article on 1Wrestling sent me to TNM, and from where onto various other sims. PW was the dog's whatsits back then, but the following usmmer we got EWR.

 

I even wrote a mod for PW dating back to 1995 with the New Generation in full force in WWF, WCW being led by Hogan and ECW on the cusp of becoming something big.

 

Is PW still around? I seem to remember checking it out a while back, and while it was good for a freebie, I just couldn't get into it.

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I remember going from Adam Ryland's Software Emporium to EWB to .400 Studios to here now on Greydog.

 

.400... *shudder*... the bad old days of TC Dale...

 

Nostalgia, ain't what it used to be.

 

But yeah, i was a relative 'late comer' (roughly 2002, think it was EWR 2.0 or 3 that was my first?), but was fully submersed by the time of the EWR 4.0 release just after WM19.

 

Good times, good times.

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.400... *shudder*... the bad old days of TC Dale...

 

Nostalgia, ain't what it used to be.

 

But yeah, i was a relative 'late comer' (roughly 2002, think it was EWR 2.0 or 3 that was my first?), but was fully submersed by the time of the EWR 4.0 release just after WM19.

 

Good times, good times.

 

I'm on the same boat although compared to the rest of these folks, we're grizzled veterans that have paid for a number of Adams bills/ secret babies.

 

And the .400 studios wasn't all bad, I just hated the obvious elitism that was going on with the "vets" on the site. God forbid you were a newbie on that site with imperfect grammar who didn't like pure style wrestling, or liked Triple H or occasionally wrote 'lol.'

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Wow, I wish I had a pc so I could play a few of these. PWSE... like someone said above, I just stumbled upon it. I wasn't even 12 yet when I found it. I remember playing Promotion Wars for hours upon hours and my mom walking into my room and yelling at me cause I was in 6th grade and had school in the morning and it being 4 am.

 

Oh greatness.

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TNM7 was an awesome sim. I was a big fan of it in the late 90s all the way to up about 2002... Then I discovered EWR... then TEW 2004... then 2005... etc. :)

 

Anyone ever use Rampage Wrestling? That was the first sim I bought. It was like $40 in a PWI magazine. It came on two floppies in like 1995. lol

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Yeah i remember those days, back in the old days it was unclear who would come on top, then with the launch of TEW04 everything changed, TEW05 kind of locked everything up to anything in the indy scene. I think the drop in wrestling has allot to do with this though, these days you hear more about MMA games than about new wrestling games, unthinkable 10 years ago
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Agreed. I love wrestling more than MMA. No matter what.

 

Wrestling has characters and I grew up on characters. Meaning cartoons. So seeing a character takes me back.

 

As to where MMA is just punching the guy in the face until you win or kicking or making him tap.

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Agreed. I love wrestling more than MMA. No matter what.

 

Wrestling has characters and I grew up on characters. Meaning cartoons. So seeing a character takes me back.

 

As to where MMA is just punching the guy in the face until you win or kicking or making him tap.

 

The two are not the same no matter what people think. MMA is a sport. The reason it gets more talk of being similar to wrestling I believe is because unlike Boxing another fighting sport you do so much more in wrestling than just throw punches. Same thing in MMA, you see everything from punches, to kicks to even powerbombs and suplexes in some cases so people look at MMA as the "real" pro wrestling.

 

The fact is people watch wrestling (whether they realize it or not) for a physical combat story not for the physical combat. If we want a sport with big hits and nasty contact we got Boxing, MMA, Football, Rugby.

 

In reality the only way in which MMA and Wrestling compete is through advertising dollars. That "valuable" 18-34 demographic. That being said MMA and Wrestling both compete with football and any television show that caters to that demographic.

 

You can like MMA and Wrestling. You don't have to choose and its not a competition. You don't have to say "I like MMA more than wrestling". That would be like me saying I like Mountain Dew more than Cheese Pizza one has nothing to do with the other despite people's best attempts to mold the two together.

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TNM7 was an awesome sim. I was a big fan of it in the late 90s all the way to up about 2002... Then I discovered EWR... then TEW 2004... then 2005... etc. :)

 

Anyone ever use Rampage Wrestling? That was the first sim I bought. It was like $40 in a PWI magazine. It came on two floppies in like 1995. lol

 

I played Rampage! Was that one of the Lance Haffner games or am I thinking of another game? Either way, I know I had Rampage.

 

I remember when MicroVision had a wrestling game too that came on floppies. Wasn't really a sim I think you fought out the matches. I always tried to be Savage or DiBiase and beat Hogan! lol

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