3-3-5 and 4-2-5 Defenses

[BYU 14]

In the game, if you select one of these schemes as your base Defensive philosphy you will suffer penalties if you use the other during a game. In reality these are basically the same scheme, relying on heavy pressure from all over the field and similar player types in the secondary....especially at the safety spots. I feel at best these two schemes should be interchangable in terms of bonus/penalty for their usage. In other words if you get a bonus for 3-3-5, you should get it for 4-2-5 as well. At worst you should never suffer a penalty when using one of them, if the other is your primary scheme, since they are so similar. Any thoughts on this from anyone else?

[smartman]

I understand your point. That said, the way the game is setup is that if you pick a 4-man front D all 3-man fronts will be hindered. This does make sense since NT is such a specialized position you have to practice that a bunch. The best way to look at the 3-3-5 and 4-2-5 in the game is that they are really quarter D's for the 3-4 and 4-3 respectively. Yes, I know there are a few teams that run one of those schemes in real life, but they generally don't run both due to it being really difficult to practice both effectively enough.

[BYU 14]

Heehee, this could become a fun debate on schemes, but I understand now why the game handles that way. There really isn't a lot of difference outside of the front shades when a 3-3-5 team shifts to a four man front. Typically you would just slide your NG offset weak, move the strongside DE to a 4 technique (inside the OT) and walk up the Sam LB to a 9 (OS the TE) The Mike and Will then just move inside. I can see not being able to be proficient at both, but I don't think there should be a penalty since really only the Strongside DE has to learn two varying techniques when he moves down inside......(In my scenario) I know true 4-2 teams will not normally cover/shade the center, but it is a frequent tactic to get an odd look up front and to keep the Center off your backside LB. I know the game can't account for this much detail at this stage though so it has to be more cut and dried.

[BYU 14]

By the way, with the players I have now I need an option for a 4-4-5 Defense in the game, holy crap, I restarted my Season and opened with Idaho again and again got lit up, losing 47-31!!!

[Tim Plum]

4-4-5 Gracie thats 13, must be the Phoenix air

[smartman]

LOL, I think he was joking since this incarnation of BYU isn't very good he needs 13 players on defense to cover them all.

[BYU 14]

[QUOTE=smartman]LOL, I think he was joking since this incarnation of BYU isn't very good he needs 13 players on defense to cover them all.[/QUOTE] Upon further review, after giving up 3 40+ TD passes to Houston in game 2, I might need 15 on Defense.....It's going to be a long F'n Season in Provo!! :eek: