forlan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 As many people know i have been working on this off and on for months now, i decided since im waiting to be emailed my code from paying by paypal i will use the spare time to upload a beta for people to check out. TEW 2010 - 1993 Beta 3 By John Marley (Forlan) and Richard Fox (Powerful_Fox) Credit to EOGE for base TV, which was altered Credit to DocStevens for some Carriers Credit to Adam Ryland for the base angles and storylines/gimmicks as well as a mass data edit Credit to Catfish Jack for the period specific angles and storylines. Credit to MattQ2607 for Title Histories. Credit to BurningHamster for some Japanese TV research and roster research Credit to Phil Parent for some future workers Credit to ShamelessPoser for help with the network umbrellas of America Basic Stats Agers - 0 (havent touched this yet as it seems a massive task) Alter Egos - 410 Angles - 594 Chemisty - 10 Dojo Graduates - 73 Dojos - 20 End of Year - 13 Eras - 2 Events - 24 Gimmicks - 299 HOI - 25 Injuries - 161 Locations - 2587 Match Types - 146 Media Groups - 13 Move Sets - 653 Moves - 703 Narrative - 15 PPV Agreements - 6 PPV Carrier -41 Promotion Pacts - 12 Promotions - 51 Stables - 10 Start Injuries - 3 Starting Storylines - 4 Storylines - 323 Teams - 161 Title Lineage - 1609 Titles - 109 TV Networks - 134 Tv Show Slots - 18 TV Shows - 13 User Characters - 2 Worker Relations - 343 Workers - 845 I would say that in general this is playable although i'm mainly releasing for feedback, suggestions, errors etc, hence it being a beta. Links Data (version 0.3) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/u4brlj Pics 1 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/0303k5 Pics 2 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/4le0yy Pics 3 - http://www.sendspace.com/file/y02an4 Logos - http://www.sendspace.com/file/ui84c0 Pic Sample http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9219/brethartd.jpg Any Feedback Welcome Thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidEFC Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Yay! I have been waiting for this since you announced it for 08. (Y) Looking forward to see it progress from beta to full release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazwefc83 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 cheers matey, i for my 1989 have used the chemistry for when you get a bad chemistry rating which just doesnt seem right eg. Gorrilla Monsoon & Bobby Heenan are a terrible pairing they have no chemistry, then i added it I also used it for tag teams mostly, them teams that you get once every few years, they dont have to be great wrestlers but just completement each other well The Rockers Lance Storm & Chris Jericho Tom Pritchard & Jimmy Del Ray The New Age Outlaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Just double checking should Davey Boy Smith be with ECW? EDIT: Wow I just double checked and he did have a few matches in 92-93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 25, 2010 Author Share Posted January 25, 2010 Yeah he worked a date or two with them in early 1993 Just double checked and he fought Snuka there in Dec 92 and then fought a match there before he went to WCW in 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I would go easy on chemistry if thats being talked about. Adam's very definition of chemistry is when a team is better together than they are apart. Also for tag teams high tag experience negates bad chemistry so Rockers, New Age Outlaws, Edge and Christian it doesn't apply to them since they should have a high tag xp. Also for singles wrestlers its the same way. Two guys who put on better matches with each other than they ever did apart from each other. Its a murky water and thats why the C Verse has zero forced chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 For narratives, it wouldn't hurt to throw in some no-effect news stories that can notify the player a few months in advance of a TV network failing. It would give people a chance to jump ship before they're left without a show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Macho Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Downloading now, will give you some feedback soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 To be honest I think the New Age Outlaws deserve to have good chemistry...think about it for a second....did Jesse or Billy had good tag team matches with other partners? I don't think so. The NAO complemented themselves really well and they also had better matches as a team than as solo wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Macho Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 - Try and increase Afas stats so he can be a decent manager? Or force chemistry? - Bill Alfonso should have increased referee and managerial skills imo. - Bob Backlund needs better technical skills. - Doink the Clown needs much better Entertainment skills. - Jerry Lawler is drastically under rated. - Kamala needs increased brawling skills. - User Charactors would be nice. - Savage needs increased flying skills. - No title pictures? - Any chance of starting storylines? - Title belts that can be bought... maybe? - Vince is a negative influence? Great mod, more to come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Macho Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Lots of workers missing pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 good work, can't wait to see what happens to this later on in the data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SasoreGatame Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Is there any other site you can use? I keep getting HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found whenever I click to download the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 To be honest I think the New Age Outlaws deserve to have good chemistry...think about it for a second....did Jesse or Billy had good tag team matches with other partners? I don't think so. The NAO complemented themselves really well and they also had better matches as a team than as solo wrestlers. They don't need good chemistry because you can put their tag xp with each other high after a certain point in tag xp I think "B" or higher then chemistry isn't used for tag teams. Thats why a lot of tag teams The Rockers (Marty Jannety looking at you) and others that may have been better together than apart if their tag xp is high enough you don't need chemistry. Chemistry isn't used in many cases or forced. We need to remember this is a game and although Gorilla and Bobby worked well together are you trying to recreate history or are you trying to make a starting point in history and move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 also for the sake of argument, Billy Gunn was pretty good with Chuck and Bart Gunn, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 As was B.G James in 3 Live Kru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlawson Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Just wanted to say YAY to this Thanks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 Lots of workers missing pictures. Specific names would help as the main workers are covered as far as im aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Macho Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Okay, ill give it a browse later on and report back lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted January 26, 2010 Author Share Posted January 26, 2010 As far as a quick look from myself it is just the following out of all contracted workers that don't have pics AJW Daichi Murayama Takashi Matsunaga ASW Brian Dixon Rick Masters ECW John Finnegan GWF Grey Pierson John KEaton Max Andrews Steven Prazak Scott Hudson MP Iron Duke Lynch Scrubber Daley Tiger KAshmir Singh NJPW Hiroyuki Unno Kotetsu Yamamoto Norio Honaga Takayuki Iizuka RINGS Willie Williams SMW Robert Fuller USWA Jerry Calhoun Jerry Jarrett UWF Herb Abrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Macho Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Here is the list of workers without pictures, if you don’t have the pictures how about replacing that horrible blue worker picture and replace it with your pic with a ring or something? Akira Fukuzawa Daichi Murayama Herb Abrams Hiroyuki Unno Iron Duke Lynch Jerry Calhoun Jerry Jarrett John Finnegan John Keaton Katetsu Yamamoto Masao Tayama Max Andrews Norio Honaga Rick Masters Robert Fuller Scott Hudson Scrubber Daley Shiro Abe Steven Prazak Takashi Matsunaga Takayuki Lizuka Tony Chimel Willie Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsofsilver Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 I wouldn't have traditional as "unpopular" during the Attitude Era. WWF and WCW were still rooted in Traditional style... It should probably be "Default". Likewise, I don't know if Modern was "Popular" during thatp period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamelessposer Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 I wouldn't have traditional as "unpopular" during the Attitude Era. WWF and WCW were still rooted in Traditional style... It should probably be "Default". Likewise, I don't know if Modern was "Popular" during thatp period. Modern has never really been that popular in the United States, but any real backing for it started post-Attitude era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Chono Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Guess I'll make a quick statement on the in-gameness. Just thought I'd point out it's common misconception that Juniors are anywhere near as over as heavyweights in Japan. Liger was NEVER more over in Japan than Tenryu. Liger was over for a junior. People weren't paying JUST to see Liger, like they were with Tenryu. I'd give Tenryu B+ popularity at the very LEAST at any point from 1989-2003. Also Shinya Hashimoto's stats are awful, Hash is definitely someone who deserves an A in puro stat. He was also the most over of the Three Musketeers. He totally eclipsed Mutoh and Chono in popularity.. He ESPECIALLY eclipsed Liger in popularity. Liger being three grades higher in pop than Hash at any point is laughable. Tatsumi Fujinami, Riki Choshu, Masahiro Chono, Hulk Hogan, Abby the Butcher, Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue, Nobuhiko Takada(Takada was hailed as the second coming of Inoki at this point..), Akira Maeda(Maeda was the biggest name in Japan wrestling in the 80's for a while, even with his star faded he should be at least C+, B- range), Road Warriors, and a few more are ALL bigger stars with more popularity than Liger. Really only a few of them need a boost in popularity, most of the problem is Liger just had too much. B- would be better for Liger. Wataru Inoue and Tiger Mask IV should both have F or E range popularity, for some reason they've got B-, I think you imported them from from a more current mod. Same with Masato Tanaka. ^_^ Stan Hansen having less than a B+ in any mod is laughable as-well, even if the highest brawl stat is only a B in this mod. Also Masato Tanaka being 19, unsigned, and having B in brawling makes no sense. Jumbo should have more popularity in Japan, I know modmakers like basing popularity on card position, but Jumbo was working lower on the card because he had Hep C, not because he wasn't more over than the younger generation.. The weights are all messed up too, unless you just use weights differently than everybody. I was under the impression middleweight was for people around 230-250 pounds, not guys like Yoshinari Ogawa and Tsuyoshi Kikuchi who weigh 125-170 pounds. Other than things like this the mod shows a lot of promise. It's not anywhere near as bad as most of the ones I've seen. This one is actually fixable without making a new mod too. Oh one more thing, All Japan never passed New Japan in popularity or size, and likely never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungNoble Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Todd Pettingill is listed as being 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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