Double Main Event leaves the crowd cold?

[praguepride]

So my standard booking for the end of the show is:

 

Decent match to work the crowd

Best or 2nd best angle of the night

2nd best match

best match

(either that ends the show or I'll put the best angle at the end)

 

 

However, I'm noticing that this often gives me the note that the crowd is cold by the time the "best match" comes around.

 

The 2nd best match is either all out or slow build.

[LucianCarter]

You are failing "Perfect show theory"

 

Either turn it off or add a weaker match somewhere between the opener and the second last match

[Bigpapa42]

I could see either one burning the crowd out. An all-out match is constant action - even if its fairly short, its a blitz that can overwhelm. As for a slow build, that seems more suited to a main event...?

[mad5226]

How long of a match should you use for a slow build. I would imagine something like 10 minutes just isn't long enough

[praguepride]

How long of a match should you use for a slow build. I would imagine something like 10 minutes just isn't long enough

 

20+ minutes. Basically the point where it starts saying "...too long for all out"

 

That's the thing though. For example, opener match will be a D-, D+ angle, D second main event, D+/C- main event that's saying it's performing to a cold crowd.

 

Maybe double main event isn't a wise thing?

 

So instead of a 2nd best match, I'd take some entertaining guys and throw a "works the crowd" right before the main event....

 

You are failing "Perfect show theory"

 

Either turn it off or add a weaker match somewhere between the opener and the second last match

 

I'm asking for advice here, and I'm doing what everybody says to do.

 

Work the crowd match

Great Angle

2nd best match of the night

Best match of the night.

 

Should be simple and easy, right? I'm wondering if the angle is screwing things up... do you find that angles cool down the crowd?

[Sigilistic]

20+ minutes. Basically the point where it starts saying "...too long for all out"

 

That's the thing though. For example, opener match will be a D-, D+ angle, D second main event, D+/C- main event that's saying it's performing to a cold crowd.

 

Maybe double main event isn't a wise thing?

 

So instead of a 2nd best match, I'd take some entertaining guys and throw a "works the crowd" right before the main event....

 

 

 

I'm asking for advice here, and I'm doing what everybody says to do.

 

Work the crowd match

Great Angle

2nd best match of the night

Best match of the night.

 

Should be simple and easy, right? I'm wondering if the angle is screwing things up... do you find that angles cool down the crowd?

 

Angles tend to be a good way of cooling the crowd yes. I'll often have post-match attacks or big interviews or something inbetween the second to last match and the last match. Or even a couple angles. Anything to give the audience time to rest for the jaw-dropping main event.

[praguepride]

Angles tend to be a good way of cooling the crowd yes. I'll often have post-match attacks or big interviews or something inbetween the second to last match and the last match. Or even a couple angles. Anything to give the audience time to rest for the jaw-dropping main event.

 

See, that's what I was thinking might be happening.

 

I think my booking still is going

 

Cool

Cool

Hot

Hot

 

Instead of

 

Cool

Hot

Cool

Hot

 

Thanks!

[Ben_91]

Great Angle

Good Match (3rd Best Match of the Night)

Good Angle

Decent Match (Worst Match of the Night)

Good Angle

Good Angle

Great Angle

Good Match (2nd Best Match of the Night)

Great Match (Best Match of the Night)

Great Angle

[Sensai of Mattitude]

See, that's what I was thinking might be happening.

 

I think my booking still is going

 

Cool

Cool

Hot

Hot

 

Instead of

 

Cool

Hot

Cool

Hot

 

Thanks!

 

I think you're second last match should still be your second best match. Other than that, the trend that you mentioned in your most is more or less correct.

[Belton]

The answer to this is easy:

That's the thing though. For example, opener match will be a D-, D+ angle, D second main event, D+/C- main event that's saying it's performing to a cold crowd.

 

The crowd never got hot - you didnt have any angles B- or above.

[LucianCarter]

The answer to this is easy:

 

 

The crowd never got hot - you didnt have any angles B- or above.

 

That can;t be right. I've been running shows for over two years and I've only had one B- match ever and that was a main event (100 matches, no angles).

 

By your logic I would have a cold crowd on every single match and I most certainly do not.

[Gigas]

That can;t be right. I've been running shows for over two years and I've only had one B- match ever and that was a main event (100 matches, no angles).

 

By your logic I would have a cold crowd on every single match and I most certainly do not.

 

Unless you start with a hot crowd that gets considerably colder throughout the night due to D- angles.

 

As to the OP, try not working the crowd in the match before the dual MEs.

[TEWFan]

Actually, depending on the show length, what I have been doing is that I have the second best match as the opener and go downhill from there, then once I hit the middle of the show I put a series of decent matches/angles, with the third or fourth best match right before the main event with the "work the crowd" note. It has worked well so far.

[Historian]

I actually get aggravated with the perfect show theory quite often. I play with it on, because it's my preferred way to book, but I am a big believer in a 'popcorn' match places between a double main event, but the game doesn't seem to like the popcorn match, though I think that's the best way to get your crowd ready for the main event.

 

In ideology, if I have two great matches, one of which is going to be twenty minutes or so, and the other going to be fifteen, why would I put them back to back with out something in between? Some people like to put their big segement right there, but I feel that's a waste of a segment. The cool down period before the main event is supposed to be where your fans can go to the rest room or concessions real fast before the big main event happens. Damn there being no note for a 'popcorn' match!

[Antithesis]

So, what happens if you decide to not use the perfect match theory? The card has to follow a linear path?

[FINisher]

The Perfect Show theory and getting the crowd hot are two completely different things.

 

The perfect show theory is a rollercoaster model of peaks and valleys in your shows.

 

Getting the crowd going can be achieved by B- or higher angles and matches, like in TEW08. As a small promotion that you are, just skip the whole comment as you will not be getting B- in a while.

[Self]

Surely you're supposed to put an angle between the Semi-Main and the Main Event, right? Maybe it's because I've been running a lot of minor league promotions recently, but my Semi-Main usually sucks, so I have to put a hot angle directly after it to re-psyche up the crowd.

 

Decent Match > Angle > Awful Match > Angle > Decent Match > Awesome Angle > Best Possible Match.

[Blackman]

Look man, i remember me watching Mania 18. The real main event here was Rock vs Hogan, Icon vs Icon. I remember the title match afterwards and to be honest, I don't even know who it was anymore. I almost fell asleep during that match because Hogan vs Rock was all I wanted to see. I didn't care. The match might've been great, but they should've kept it way shorter to garner my interest. I don't have a clue to what happened. I guess it was HHH vs Y2J, but i'm not even sure.

 

Point is that the best should always be last.