brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Gotta love Wes Simms http://www.mmabay.co.uk/Video%20A%2000191.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtCabana Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Isn't that the guy who lost in the first round of bouts in TUF10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 He was pretty funny on TUF10 too, decent guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 Wes is actually a great guy, very cool, very friendly and the funniest guy in the room. He's too much of a free spirit for his own good though...he has a ton of potential but can't settle down. He was homeless before going into the TUF house, sleeping in gyms and on friends couches (not under an underpass as he claimed though :-p ) I'd say that he's tailor-made for pro wrestling, but knowing how he is when he's locked down for a 4-6 week training camp, I can't see the lifestyle of being locked into appearences every week of the year being at all good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 Isn't that the guy who lost in the first round of bouts in TUF10? Yep, the very same. He's fighting Tim Sylvia in a few weeks in addition to the Lashley fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Jobs To Me Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Sims-Sylvia? Can-tastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 Sims-Sylvia? Can-tastic! Can-tastic 2! The only thing more baffeling than this fight taking place is the fact that it's already happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Great guy, terrible fighter. Considering Jimmy Ambriz was considered too much for Lashley I'm not sure he's going to win over even Sims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 Great guy, terrible fighter. Considering Jimmy Ambriz was considered too much for Lashley I'm not sure he's going to win over even Sims. Ambriz wasn't considered too much, they just wanted someone with a bit more recognition. They were hoping to get one of the more popular guys from TUF 10, but Jones has retired and Wren didn't want the fight as he has other commitments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtCabana Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 The worry is in the title of the video, "hasn't really trained" now I know this isn't really the case but even to say that is a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 29, 2010 Author Share Posted January 29, 2010 The worry is in the title of the video, "hasn't really trained" now I know this isn't really the case but even to say that is a bit silly. He hasn't. He only got the call last week...there's not much you can do in a week other than work on your timing a little. By trained, he means he hasn't worked a camp on Lashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Ambriz wasn't considered too much, they just wanted someone with a bit more recognition. They were hoping to get one of the more popular guys from TUF 10, but Jones has retired and Wren didn't want the fight as he has other commitments. He was nearly guillotined by Jason Guida. His run is fueled by Brock's success, but unlike Brock he hasn't shown himself to be an effective fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Best part of TUF was when he was a stealthy ninja in bushes. Being serious though, Lashley probably grounds and pounds him to victory, he did it to Sapp who may not be technically skilled but is probably alot physically stronger than Simms is, although if Simms can use his reach to keep Lashley at bay since he is so tall maybe he can shock everyone with a head kick finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 He was nearly guillotined by Jason Guida. His run is fueled by Brock's success, but unlike Brock he hasn't shown himself to be an effective fighter. What does that have to do with the reason for him not fighting Jimmy Ambriz? I'm not speculating, I know for a fact why that fight didn't get signed last week, and it has nothing to do with how dangerous Ambriz is, or isn't. Still...He 'nearly' got choked out. So? He didn't get choked out. Just because Brock has fought better opponants, does that mean that Lashley wouldn't have beaten those same fighters? You're just speculating that he isn't as good, apparently based on the fact that he 'nearly' got choked out by somebody in his second professional fight. Now remind me, what happened to Brock in his second fight? Hmm... Neither of them have proven themselves to be 'effective fighters' yet because both of them can still count their career totals on the fingers of one hand. Aside from who they've fought, the only thing I can see that separates them is that Lashley is undefeated and Lesnar isn't. But he 'nearly' beat Mir in that fight, so I guess that counts, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Best part of TUF was when he was a stealthy ninja in bushes. That was the best bit of the whole season: "This requires the Gi..." Being serious though, Lashley probably grounds and pounds him to victory Spot on. Wes is what's known in the game as a turtle, for obvious reasons. Can't get off his back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 i would pay alot of money to see that! i wonder how much he'd get fined.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 i would pay alot of money to see that! i wonder how much he'd get fined.. LOL, I wonder if they'd class it as kicking a downed opponant? Not exactly a leg drop, but about as close as you'll get: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 What does that have to do with the reason for him not fighting Jimmy Ambriz? I'm not speculating, I know for a fact why that fight didn't get signed last week, and it has nothing to do with how dangerous Ambriz is, or isn't. Still...He 'nearly' got choked out. So? He didn't get choked out. Just because Brock has fought better opponants, does that mean that Lashley wouldn't have beaten those same fighters? You're just speculating that he isn't as good, apparently based on the fact that he 'nearly' got choked out by somebody in his second professional fight. Now remind me, what happened to Brock in his second fight? Hmm... Neither of them have proven themselves to be 'effective fighters' yet because both of them can still count their career totals on the fingers of one hand. Aside from who they've fought, the only thing I can see that separates them is that Lashley is undefeated and Lesnar isn't. But he 'nearly' beat Mir in that fight, so I guess that counts, right? Notable fighters Brock Lesnar has dominated and beaten: Frank Mir, Randy Couture. Notable fighters Bobby Lashley has beaten: Have you actually seen Lashley fight or are you just looking at Sherdog fight finder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Brock Mark Alert naming fighters and not explaining anything makes you sounds like you are the one who hasn't seen Lashley fight if you are so confident Simms will win just b/c Lashley escaped a guillotine. Both fight almost exactly the same so I dont see how one is effective as a fighter and the other isn't? And if Lashley was riding Lesnar's success wouldn't he be in the UFC instead of this being his first fight with a big promotion? I'm not a big Lashley fan, and I'm not a big Lesnar fan, both are waaay to young in their sport and just getting started to be defined so I really dont see your Lashley hate. While Lesnar has had great success in such a young UFC career and yes he beat The Texas Crazy horse in his first UFC bout but his match against Mir obviously showed he wasn't experienced enough yet and Brock admits it was a stupid mistake he will never make again (and i will be shocked if he gets submitted again in the same way) so I think Lashley is just building himself up so he doesnt get overwhelmed and make any silly mistakes that gives haters things to bring up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Brock Mark Alert naming fighters and not explaining anything makes you sounds like you are the one who hasn't seen Lashley fight if you are so confident Simms will win just b/c Lashley escaped a guillotine. Both fight almost exactly the same so I dont see how one is effective as a fighter and the other isn't? And if Lashley was riding Lesnar's success wouldn't he be in the UFC instead of this being his first fight with a big promotion? I'm not a big Lashley fan, and I'm not a big Lesnar fan, both are waaay to young in their sport and just getting started to be defined so I really dont see your Lashley hate. While Lesnar has had great success in such a young UFC career and yes he beat The Texas Crazy horse in his first UFC bout but his match against Mir obviously showed he wasn't experienced enough yet and Brock admits it was a stupid mistake he will never make again (and i will be shocked if he gets submitted again in the same way) so I think Lashley is just building himself up so he doesnt get overwhelmed and make any silly mistakes that gives haters things to bring up I didn't say I thought Wes Sims would win. He is Wes Sims with a week of training, he'll be awful. I'm saying Bobby Lashley is only hyped because of Lesnar's success, since if you actually look at him fight he's not very good. He might improve but he'll never reach Lesnar's level, arguably that of the best heavyweight in the world in his fifth fight, and yet he's being hyped like he will. Furthermore I hate Brock Lesnar and hope Carwin punches him stupid. Especially since Lesnar's chin is still very much untested. writing words about brock lesnar is a great way to keep my mind off grading tests okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tag01 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Brock has proven far more than Lashley has. Lashley may very well end up being as big of a star as Brock, but Brock has smashed top level heavyweights with his only loss coming from getting caught by Mir while he was laying a beating on him. Lashley couldn't put away Jason Guida and his second most impressive win was against Bob Sapp. Given Lashley's lack of real competition there's no real way to compare him to Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Notable fighters Brock Lesnar has dominated and beaten: Frank Mir, Randy Couture. Notable fighters Bobby Lashley has beaten: Have you actually seen Lashley fight or are you just looking at Sherdog fight finder? Well considering that I make my living as an MMA journalist, yes, I have seen Lashley fight. Live. And interviewed him afterwards. Lashley has beat everyone put infront of him, you can't do any more than that. He's not even a full-time preofessional fighter. I ask again, who's to say that Lashley wouldn't have beaten Couture, Herring and Mir? Has Brock done more than Bobby? Absolutly. He's beaten better fighters. He's trained a full time professional schedule for years, and jumped in at the highest level in the sport. Bobby didn't want to. To to say that any fighter has any less talent or potential than another after just four or five fights is just short-sighted. Especially when they are undefeated. Besides, your original point was that Jimmy Ambriz was considered 'too much' for Lashley. So we already know that you have no idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 he'll never reach Lesnar's level ^ Thats exactly what I'm talking about. How on earth would you possibly know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Well considering that I make my living as an MMA journalist, yes, I have seen Lashley fight. Live. And interviewed him afterwards. Lashley has beat everyone put infront of him, you can't do any more than that. He's not even a full-time preofessional fighter. I ask again, who's to say that Lashley wouldn't have beaten Couture, Herring and Mir? Has Brock done more than Bobby? Absolutly. He's beaten better fighters. He's trained a full time professional schedule for years, and jumped in at the highest level in the sport. Bobby didn't want to. To to say that any fighter has any less talent or potential than another after just four or five fights is just short-sighted. Especially when they are undefeated. Besides, your original point was that Jimmy Ambriz was considered 'too much' for Lashley. So we already know that you have no idea what you're talking about. MMA journalism is terrible and you are most likely a terrible journalist. I say that Lashley is worse than Lesnar because I have seen both men fight. This is about all you need to do to know this. And as far as I know they didn't let Ambriz fight Lashley because of undisclosed reasons which sound shady as hell. ^ Thats exactly what I'm talking about. How on earth would you possibly know that? well let's see did you see brock lesnar fight did you then see bobby lashley fight did you compare and take notes are you a sherdog journalist by any chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Ryland Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Daffanka and brashleyholland, take your argument to PM if you want to continue it, no more posts to each other in this thread. I think it's already sunk low enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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