MJStark Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm planning to redo my half finished TEW2005 RL UK mod for 2010 but I'm unsure on some stuff. So, possibley the first of many questions: In the UK wrestling isnt hugely popular, so all the promotions will start quite low and only imported names from the US are a big draw. However there are plenty of UK wrestlers who are over with the internet wrestling community. How would I translate this into a workers popularity & star power? Thanks in advance for replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedew Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 How would I translate this into a workers popularity & star power? I won't comment on the other stuff, but i'd like to clear up for you that popularity is star power. Star quality, the stat, is not how much of a draw they are - it's their look. 'Generic muscle man #220' looks more of a star than say, Mick Foley, but Foley has the popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I did some UK data for TEW2008 for the MCD mod and TCPs community mod that didn't get started but I posted the data and the pics in the forum. FWA South: E+ Midlands: E North: E- Scotland: E- Ireland: F+ That should get about 700 fans to the south which is around about what they can draw, in the midlands is less going off there show in Nottingham recently and they mainly do shows in broxbourne which is in the south. They haven't been up north, Scotland or Ireland but that should cover the net fans and casual fans I would guess who would go from posters, flyers etc... and the odd few who watched the wrestling channel back in the day 1PW North: E+ Midlands: E- South: E- Scotland: E- Ireland: F+ They usually run shows in Doncaster and have drawn decent crowds but went for the bigger venue in Sheffield and possibly only half filled it even with a mass influx of American imports and most of the fans were casual fans so they didn't really know who most of the workers were. Again they haven't ran out side of the north so those kind of grades should cover it. ASW E- / E in all regions They run shows in holiday parks all over the UK and in Ireland which can draw but again there mostly holiday makers who probably don't follow the promotion. IPW-UK South: E They run shows in Kent and another location in the south but it escapes me and they usually draw ok, I like there talent they use which is more UK based with the odd import. They haven't ran outside of the south so I would leave them as 0 as they wouldn't draw more than any local show up north without serious flyering or adverising. SWA and BCW are Scottish based only and could be E / E- as they have drawn on occasion. 3CW are northern based but have ran shows in Scotland and draw around 150-200 people. So if you use what you know and play about with the numbers you should be able to get it spot on. The UK workers are only as over as there companies so for example Martin Stone is the top guy in 1PW, FWA and IPW-UK so he should be a grade above or the same grade as there best in each area. Then work down the card from there. Hope this helps maybe you find a better way to sim it and let me know but I got pretty life like results in 08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKid Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I did some UK data for TEW2008 for the MCD mod and TCPs community mod that didn't get started but I posted the data and the pics in the forum. FWA South: E Midlands: E- North: F+ Scotland: F+ Ireland: F That should get about 700 fans to the south which is around about what they can draw, in the midlands is less going off there show in Nottingham recently and they mainly do shows in broxbourne which is in the south. They haven't been up north, Scotland or Ireland but that should cover the net fans and casual fans I would guess. 1PW North: E Midlands: F+ South: F+ Scotland: F+ Ireland: F They usually run shows in Doncaster and have drawn decent crowds but went for the bigger venue in Sheffield and possibly only half filled it even with a mass influx of American imports and most of the fans were casual fans so they didn't really know who most of the workers were. Again they haven't ran out side of the north so those kind of grades should cover it. ASW F+ in all regions They run shows in holiday parks all over the UK and in Ireland which can draw but again there mostly holiday makers who probably don't follow the promotion. IPW-UK South: F+ They run shows in Kent and another location in the south but it escapes me and they usually draw ok, I like there talent they use which is more UK based with the odd import. They haven't ran outside of the south so I would leave them as 0 as they wouldn't draw more than any local show up north without serious flyering or adverising. SWA and BCW are Scottish based only and could be F or F+ as they have drawn on occasion. 3CW are northern based but have ran shows in Scotland and draw around 150-200 people. So if you use what you know and play about with the numbers you should be able to get it spot on. The UK workers are only as over as there companies so for example Martin Stone is the top guy in 1PW, FWA and IPW-UK so he should be a grade above or the same grade as there best in each area. Then work down the card from there. Hope this helps maybe you find a better way to sim it and let me know but I got pretty life like results in 08 IPW's good i've seen it twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know there talent are excellent but they do not draw more than 500-600 people so that grade is fine for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKid Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know there talent are excellent but they do not draw more than 500-600 people so that grade is fine for them. True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJStark Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Cheers for that info Woodsmeister. I would say All Star would have a higher overall pop than that as they regularly draw 500 all over the country, but that still only gives them an E rating overall. Another question: what difference to crowd numbers does the economy & industry ratings actually have? I only ask as really All Star is the only thing close to a National promotion in the UK, but the economy and industry are in the toilet. If I dropped those to F+ would, say, making ASW a Cult level promotion be an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I really should have checked my stats before I posted earlier I was in the hairdressers on my iphone so was guessing what the grades would be off top of my head (big mistake) I have updated the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 the economy being down will affect it but if you keep testing it to get it where you want it or as close as you can get it then your golden I would have said 1PW or FWA were bigger in there specific areas (1PW - North / FWA - South) but yes overall ASW cover more ground when touring so they have a pretty consistent rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJStark Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hopefully. The problem is that I got to 50+ promotions in my TEW2005 version with still more to go in, and they cant all be small and local. But if a cult level is drawing 700 will that mean a local is drawing 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsmeister Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I would say ASW, FWA and 1PW were regional at best, I would not say they were close to cult yet. 50 promotions is way to much and to be fair most of the UK wrestlers are either poor or all the good ones work for the same companies there is no competition as they all work together so its not really the most appealing to non UKFF fans and to be honest most of the posters on there frown upon fantasy booking games as I recall. going off the cornellverse 4 UK promotions is probably enough with 1PW, FWA, ASW, IPW-UK being the big four in my opinion but apart from ASW the other three seem to have very similar rosters (1PW bring in more imports though) so maybe SWA or BCW from Scotland to replace possibly IPW-UK as the other two are bigger in my opinion which is a shame as they put on good shows. HERE IS A PICTURE PACK YOU COULD USE WITH A NUMBER OF BRITISH WORKERS IN IT... http://rapidshare.com/files/333156323/UKWS_Photos.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJStark Posted January 30, 2010 Author Share Posted January 30, 2010 Ah, well I was intending to make it as a realistic mod (with all the little guys and promotions) that could only really be played with the UK area active, rather than skimming the top 4 - 6 off the top and going with that. If its frowned upon and not going to be of interest I wont bother. No point going to all that effort for no one to use it. Cheers for your help and advice though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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