The SWF Thread

[Sigilistic]

I figure it's time for another fed thread, and since I'm still trying to make a go with SWF here we are.

 

Some big changes this year for SWF. Enygma is gone, Rich Money is a face main eventer, Steve Frehley has dropped down to the upper midcard, Gregory Black is a serious singles contender, and Jack Bruce is the most popular wrestler on the planet. Oh, and we've seen the addition of Jungle Lord and Marat Khoklov as well.

 

The tag team division is fairly stagnant, unless you make Giedroyc and Valiant a proper team, and add the previous champs Huntingdon and Dubois as a team as well. Even then, we still have the Biggz, the Samoans, and the Bumfholes with the only real change being the Samoans have turned heel.

 

Finally, the Shooting Star title has been retired, leaving SWF with just 3 titles.

 

 

So what do you do with the biggest promotion on the planet? How do you run them? How do you treat the starting stories? Do you cycle through them quickly then move on to new stories, do you take the stories Adam's crafted and run with them as long as you can, or do you just delete them and start with your own stories?

 

Here's the thread to talk all things SWF.

[Stennick]

Rich Money being a lone wolf character is new and gives people something new to do with his character.

 

Frehley vs. Vengeance is what was I was building up to for Supreme Challenge in 08.

 

Glad to see SWF stocking up on new monsters although really neither is near as cool as Train or Vengeance.

 

Also I like the tid bit about Eisen never being on the air for us C Verse fans that try to stick to canon it will be interesting to see Eisen not be used as McMahon of the C Verse.

[Bigpapa42]

I quite like what has developed at Supreme for 2010. The addition of Kholov is awesome, although he does needs some work, and the CC is a bit worrisome.

 

Rich Money is an interesting spot. I like the development of his character and being a face is interesting. A continuation of the Money-Eisen-Bruce feud with the possibility of Money finally going over Eisen at some point in the distant future is enticing.

 

Like that Valiant and Giedroyc are teamed up, though I still find it interesting that they aren't actually set as a team.

 

I love that Adam added the bit to Richard Eisen that he's rarely seen on-screen. It makes the possibility of having him jump in with regard to Eric at some point have even more of an impact.

[Master Gilmore]

I've done a few things. I pushed three upper midcarders to the main event: Frehley (obviously), Gilmore (I might come off as a mark of his, but he's still the best guy on the roster, and it's time he's on the ME level), and Runaway Train (maybe not a great idea for the game's sake, but the guy was probably one of the top 5 most popular US workers ever, the idea of not labeling him as a main eventer just feels wrong). I also turned Train face, making him into a sort Kane-type character.

 

I added a fued between Remo and Gilmore (with Gilmore eventually turning face), as well as one between Train and Squeeky McClean.

[Greg2511]

I love the position that swf is in in 2010.

 

I don't want to give too much away as to what im doing because im planning a diary.

 

I do like the fact that richard eisen is NOT the vince mcmahon I always used him as.

 

Love eric being the ******* heel who uses his ties to the swf board of directors to get his way. And obviously the 3 way story with him, bruce and money is the best thing about the cverse right now.

 

Not a huge fan of the ammount of "monsters" they have though.

[Sigilistic]

I love the position that swf is in in 2010.

 

I don't want to give too much away as to what im doing because im planning a diary.

 

I do like the fact that richard eisen is NOT the vince mcmahon I always used him as.

 

Love eric being the ******* heel who uses his ties to the swf board of directors to get his way. And obviously the 3 way story with him, bruce and money is the best thing about the cverse right now.

 

Not a huge fan of the ammount of "monsters" they have though.

 

I use the monsters in layers basically.

 

Everest is the monster of the bottom-card. He dominates jobbers and provides relatively useful wins for midcarders. Kind of a Snitsky role.

 

Runaway Train is the keeper of the main event. Nobody gets to the top without going through him, he is the brutal standard by which every star is measured.

 

Marat is the top monster, the unstoppable, unbeatable (thanks CC...) beast.

 

I've decided not to use Vengeance as a monster any more, at least not of the "Unbeatable savage beast" variety.

[Stennick]

Vengeance is my favorite character in the Cornellverse followed closely by James Justice so I still use him at the top. Not as the savage monster but as super natural, mysterious, monster.

[Greg2511]

I definitely see vengeance as more of a supernatural character than a monster

 

And train is definitely a gateway to the main event I agree with you there.

 

Everest however I just don't like, although I like your snitsky comparison, I will always find a use for him as I don't like to make too many major changes right off the bat (my last swf diary being an exception), so this comparison should help me see him in a more useful light

[Ben_91]

Rich Money defeated Eric Eisen straight away at When Hell Freezes Over in a triple-threat, ending Eric's one-month reign as champion. Next Supreme, Eric gets destroyed by Remo and both are sent down to development for the time being (Remo for suspension, Eric for injury).

 

Brandon James drops the NA title to Lobster Warrior, leading to James' departure after Emma Chase turns on him. The next week, Emma Chase announces herself as the manager of Jack Bruce; who has just recently turned into an egomaniac heel after Rich Money won the World Title. Both Everest and Brandon James were fired for farting.

 

Christian Faith is constantly destroyed by Marat week-in week-out until Awesome Impact where Faith destroys Marat. Sent Marat down to Development.

 

I turned Angry Gilmore from a straight edge into a beer-swelling face Stone Cold verison that now feuds with Richard Eisen.

 

Rich Eisen has come out the dark and now appears more regulary on television. He has formed a businesship alliance with Emma Chase, who now has authority powers and managers the structure of SWF and the fianancial stuff. This leads to Eric Eisen's return from injury and a stable called "The Coalition" is formed, which also involves Jack Bruce and Enforcer Roberts, with Chase & Rich Eisen being the head of the stable.

 

Didn't really like the roster or position SWF was in at the start, but I think I've partially turned it into something I can work with. Out of all of the monsters, Vengeance is the most one worth keeping. I got an A* tag match involving Vengeance & Jack Bruce vs. Angry Gilmore & Rich Money.

[Comradebot]

I definitely see vengeance as more of a supernatural character than a monster

 

And train is definitely a gateway to the main event I agree with you there.

 

Everest however I just don't like, although I like your snitsky comparison, I will always find a use for him as I don't like to make too many major changes right off the bat (my last swf diary being an exception), so this comparison should help me see him in a more useful light

 

I love Everest... every company should have a fat guy.

 

That said, the AI teamed him up with American Machine as The Sultans of Slam. Given both of their styles and the cheezy name, I can't help but think that teaming them together as some sorta fun, 80s throwback team isn't a terrible idea.

 

If nothing else, he really can be a good "midcard" monster, ala Snitsky (as someone else said) or my hero, Viscera/Big Daddy V/Mabel/King V.

[Stennick]

Rich Money defeated Eric Eisen straight away at When Hell Freezes Over in a triple-threat, ending Eric's one-month reign as champion. Next Supreme, Eric gets destroyed by Remo and both are sent down to development for the time being (Remo for suspension, Eric for injury).

 

Brandon James drops the NA title to Lobster Warrior, leading to James' departure after Emma Chase turns on him. The next week, Emma Chase announces herself as the manager of Jack Bruce; who has just recently turned into an egomaniac heel after Rich Money won the World Title. Both Everest and Brandon James were fired for farting.

 

Christian Faith is constantly destroyed by Marat week-in week-out until Awesome Impact where Faith destroys Marat. Sent Marat down to Development.

 

I turned Angry Gilmore from a straight edge into a beer-swelling face Stone Cold verison that now feuds with Richard Eisen.

 

Rich Eisen has come out the dark and now appears more regulary on television. He has formed a businesship alliance with Emma Chase, who now has authority powers and managers the structure of SWF and the fianancial stuff. This leads to Eric Eisen's return from injury and a stable called "The Coalition" is formed, which also involves Jack Bruce and Enforcer Roberts, with Chase & Rich Eisen being the head of the stable.

 

Didn't really like the roster or position SWF was in at the start, but I think I've partially turned it into something I can work with. Out of all of the monsters, Vengeance is the most one worth keeping. I got an A* tag match involving Vengeance & Jack Bruce vs. Angry Gilmore & Rich Money.

 

Man you really turned SWF on its ear didn't you, guys being fired, sent to development how long did all this take? A month? Two? Thats a heck of a start to a new game.

[Ben_91]

Man you really turned SWF on its ear didn't you, guys being fired, sent to development how long did all this take? A month? Two? Thats a heck of a start to a new game.

Had to. Goal is to make SWF as strong as possible and then make my own fed and try and challenge it. Having deadweights on the roster is just going to ruin the backstage morale - especially when they aren't really that talented.

[acidfrehley]

Im playing with SWF too and recently dropped to cult :/

 

My main event picture its fine, straight b's with Vengeance as Heavyweight champion feuding with Christian Faith.

Tag teams were always a problem, just had the new tag team I put together (Matthew Keith and Greg Gauge) taking the titles from Valiant and Jack Giedroyc.

 

I pushed Marc Dubois to upper midcarder and turned him to face, he is doing great and so far is my best prospect to the future, he will definetly hold the heavyweight sometime.

 

One thing that killed my ratings was trying to make a brother feud between Randy and Zimmy, god, E/D to all angles and matches, it lasted for less than a month.

 

Other small changes:

- Changed the Lobster Warrior persona back to Chris Morrissette as I hate that lobster picture (lol).

- Released Runaway Train

- Hired Carl Batch to manage Marat

- Hired Nicolas Lopez to tag with Jungle Lord

[TEWFan]

LOL Acid, I hired Nicolas Lopez too. I called him Jungle Prince and teamed him up with Jungle Lord as Savage Fury. Goes to show that great minds think alike.

[Bigpapa42]

Had to. Goal is to make SWF as strong as possible and then make my own fed and try and challenge it. Having deadweights on the roster is just going to ruin the backstage morale - especially when they aren't really that talented.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong to massively change things right out of the gate, but I don't think "had to" is correct at all. The SWF is plenty strong and workable right off the start. Sure, they have some guys at the top who have some issues in the ring, but that's entirely workable if you book them correctly. Plus, its popularity-based, so a mediocre worker who is popular is more valuable than a good worker who is not popular.

[acidfrehley]

LOL Acid, I hired Nicolas Lopez too. I called him Jungle Prince and teamed him up with Jungle Lord as Savage Fury. Goes to show that great minds think alike.

 

Haha, nice. I kept him as Nicolas Lopez, and the tag name is just Jungle Lopez.

[Irish Wolf]

I let it ride with what the games has laid out. All of their storylines pretty much just started in December so I laid out a plan to run them through until The Supreme Challenge.

 

Eric Eisen vs Rich Money vs Jack Bruce

Christian Faith vs Marat Khoklov

Frehley vs Vengeance

Brandon James vs Joe Sexy

 

I added

 

Runaway Train vs Lobster Warrior

 

I teamed up Angry Gilmore with Squeeky McClean since they both have straight edge gimmicks and set them against Giedroyc & Valiant.

 

And then Remo vs Someone (don't have the game in front of me so I can't remember who)

 

I had to bring up two guys from development since we were short on the roster. And since heels out number faces by like 6 I brought up two faces. Cheetah Boy and some one else.

 

After teaming up Gilmore and McClean that left it 3 face teams to 4 heel teams. So on the face side I teamed Captain Atomic up with his side kick Cheetah Boy as The Supercrew and Jungle Lord and American Machine up a Jungle Machine (not original but Jack can really help Machine grow I hope) lastly I added the team of Enforcer Roberts and Marc DuBois because DuBois is on my list for having a ton of potential so I figure the guy with best Performance skills teaming with the guy with huge potential is a good thing. Plus a few tag team losses since he's not in a storyline should curb any ego DuBois might be heading for.

 

My problem is I've set up the roster, laid out all the PPVs from January until The Supreme Challenge and even sent out feelers to hire some folk. But I stil haven't managed to make it past the first day.

[The Shape]

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I love Everest... every company should have a fat guy.

 

That said, the AI teamed him up with American Machine as The Sultans of Slam. Given both of their styles and the cheezy name, I can't help but think that teaming them together as some sorta fun, 80s throwback team isn't a terrible idea.

 

If nothing else, he really can be a good "midcard" monster, ala Snitsky (as someone else said) or my hero, Viscera/Big Daddy V/Mabel/King V.

 

lol awesome team name. Myself since finding a Machine alt I love I am pushing straight to the top. By the end of the year I plan to headline with him vs. Marat Khoklov in a feud that is both very 80's and very risky in terms of angles, haha. Been tempted to give Khoklov Peter Michaels as a manager, just because, why not

 

Oh and I dismay at the amount of people who unmask Lobby. Without a mask he's just a bland, solid worker. He should only unmask if he goes to TCW, as a symbolic gesture. In SWF, Lobby he should always be, and Lobby should get to the top

 

Also Vengeance is annoyingly old already. Probably turn him face in a bid to stop Khoklov, he'll fail of course as only Machine can do that.

[Liamo]

Finally someone shares my Lobster Warrior love

[Bigpapa42]

Unmasking Lobster Warrior is one of my many many regrets from my SWF diary. He ended up floating for so long while I found a purpose for the bland Mr. Chris Morrisette. With the mask and as a babyface, its so esay to put him in feuds.

[acidfrehley]

Remo just asked for a release. :/

 

And I made Brandom James and Marat tag partners, so far they're doing great.

[ChrisKid]

I can't keep Runaway Train in the main roster as he needs to go into development has anyone else done this (obviously to make him better)

[Irish Wolf]

I can't keep Runaway Train in the main roster as he needs to go into development has anyone else done this (obviously to make him better)

 

He's pretty old and if you check he's most likely on your "times Decline" list. He's not really going to develop all that much in development. Its SWF he doesn't need to be super skilled you should be able to keep him over just with Menace angles and then have him lose a match against an up and coming star, then rebuild his overness with menace angles.

[ChrisKid]

He's pretty old and if you check he's most likely on your "times Decline" list. He's not really going to develop all that much in development. Its SWF he doesn't need to be super skilled you should be able to keep him over just with Menace angles and then have him lose a match against an up and coming star, then rebuild his overness with menace angles.

 

I just think you can't be that good if your scary you need to know how to fight to put on a good match

[Nachtfalter]

When I first saw that Eric Eisen was SWF champion, I hated it. I hated it and I hated the 2010 SWF for it, but, obviously, I came around pretty quickly once I had given it some thought.

 

I've added Remo (who didn't seem to have anything productive to do) to the Eisen/Bruce/Money-Feud as silent muscle backing Eric, basically forcing Bruce and Money to form an uneasy alliance just to keep up. The PPV name "When Hell Freezes Over" was wonderfully apt for the first ever time Bruce and Money formed a tag-team, beating Eisen and Remo in the Main Event to secure titleshots for both of them. The match itself was somewhat of a letdown (B-), but the feud rocks and has seen all four men rise to A/A* popularity within the first month.

 

I don't think I'll go with Eric as a long-term champion simply because I'm yearning to give Christian Faith a well-deserved fifth run at the top, possibly starting at Awesome Impact, but I really like the Eisen/Remo-Alliance that will definitely live on for a long time, inevitably leading to a Remo-Faceturn once RR has picked up enough entertainment skills to stand on his own.

 

I've kept the other starting storylines as well (although I've added Emma Chase to the Sexy/James one - she's even mentioned in the description, she belongs in there) but I plan to be done with pretty much all of them by Awesome Impact (which I've always seen as the second biggest PPV in the SWF calendar for some reason).

 

Angry Gilmore and Squeeky McClean have bad chemistry teaming, so I've instead turned them into adversaries who struggle for my newly created SWF Television title in a three-way battle with Gregory Black. Gilmore and Black have great chemistry as opponents, so I'm contemplating to extend the story between these two until The Supreme Challenge for an inevitable epic.

 

While I haven't had any luck with Gilmore and McClean, the team I've paired them up against at first, had excellent chemistry. Thus, Lobster Warrior and Captain Atomic now form the (very blandly named) Superheroes and look forward to a bright future in a division that's not all that great at this point but will no doubt improve, especially since I plan to insert Eisen & Remo into the division after Eric is phased out of the immediate World title picture.

 

Another great chemistry I've unearthed in houseshows gave me my main event for The Supreme Challenge - Christian Faith vs. Jack Bruce! I couldn't think of a bigger match to headline the 30th edition of the CVerse-world's greatest event. The only question is who am I going to turn heel?

I've experimented with Jack Bruce vs. Rich Money matches to see how people like face vs. face pairings and have gotten nothing better than a B. That was okay for TV show main events, but for The Supreme Challenge I don't think I want to swallow the face vs. face penalty. The more obvious choice for a heel-turn would seem to be Jack Bruce, who strikes me as pretty ****y as it is. But there is something to a heel Christian Faith that I've always found fascinating and I'm very much leaning towards turning him.

 

This post is longer than I had planned already, so I'm gonna talk about Bumfholes, Enforcers, Giants and things like Pain Production Inc. some other time. What I really wanted to say is, the 2010 SWF is pretty awesome. Lots of stuff to do, lots of different ways to go about doing it. I think USPW is my favourite promotion in 2010, but SWF is right up there and has leaped past my previously most beloved TCW.