CZCW Thread

[jesterx7769]

Thought I would make a CZCW thread as I just started my first ever game with them and was surprised when I searched no one else had made one.

 

So does everyone enjoy playing with them? I heard they are one of the easier/more fun promotions to play. I am assuming the workers to hire are lightweight cruiserweights/spot monkeys/japanese juniors to get the best response?

[FlameSnoopy]

Thought I would make a CZCW thread as I just started my first ever game with them and was surprised when I searched no one else had made one.

 

So does everyone enjoy playing with them? I heard they are one of the easier/more fun promotions to play. I am assuming the workers to hire are lightweight cruiserweights/spot monkeys/japanese juniors to get the best response?

 

Yes, CZCW in the past has been easy. But don't be surprised when your top stars get stealen, because, well, it happens all the time.

[LucianCarter]

I'm in December 2015. I have a lot of working agreements and a few nonagression pact and I've grown to Cult (just). I'm actually more influential than SWF who have fallen to Cult.

 

The problem is having jumped to Cult the increased fixed costs are killing me.

 

I was doing 2 events a month. I switched to 4. Still lost money. The only TV network that would sign me was Los Deporte Hoy. So now I have a TV show that's really only going to benefit me in Mexico and will make less money than weakly events. Methinks I will go bankrupt or start having to sabotage my shows.

[Irish Wolf]

I'm in December 2015. I have a lot of working agreements and a few nonagression pact and I've grown to Cult (just). I'm actually more influential than SWF who have fallen to Cult.

 

The problem is having jumped to Cult the increased fixed costs are killing me.

 

I was doing 2 events a month. I switched to 4. Still lost money. The only TV network that would sign me was Los Deporte Hoy. So now I have a TV show that's really only going to benefit me in Mexico and will make less money than weakly events. Methinks I will go bankrupt or start having to sabotage my shows.

 

You can just cancel the show. Look into a PPV deal but only if you get a cut of the profit. Also you should never jump to cult with out a giant bankroll some where in the millions of dollars or you're going to die.

[jesterx7769]

Just ran the first show, got a D+ so atleast it was decent. Gonna spend the next month trying to bring in some guys high in performacne skills and get rid of some of the bottom feeder guys to see how that works out.

[FINisher]

People do seem to fall for the Los Deporte Hoy deal far too often. DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, it'll do you no good. The only TV-show you're going to need once you reach Cult is one that covers the whole US, you gain nothing from the LDH deal.

[LucianCarter]

But what US Network is there that will take you at Cult? You'd have to build up in bunch of regions and that would be costly too. What PPV carrier for that matter?

[LFC_chris]

But what US Network is there that will take you at Cult? You'd have to build up in bunch of regions and that would be costly too. What PPV carrier for that matter?

 

To survive at cult you really need to have built up a fanbase in 4-5 regions. You're best bet isn't TV, but a PPV deal - that's where the money is. A lot of people fall into the trap of rushing to cult with the minimum 2 regions at D which is suicide. I did it in 08 with CZCW and it'll kill you in a few months unless you've built up a lot of finance to help you through.

 

You're best concerntrating on one home region until you get popular enough to get spillover to other regions, and then you'll be better placed to branch out and build up other regions.

[James Casey]

It's best to wait until you get the second spillover bonus before even thinking about branching out. Even then I recommend staggered growth, holding rotating monthly shows in two or three other regions so that you grow slowly but steadily. Use the Internet distribution option to make sure your fans can see your shows in all the other regions you hit - that way your growth will continue.

 

You're not in a race, and hitting Cult with less than *checks* 1 million in the bank is pretty much going to kill you financially. That's pretty much what I lost in my first eight months at Cult in '08, inspite of a national TV deal (National Pride or whoever is the company who'll take you on at high Regional/low Cult), PPV deal (American Option) and tailoring my nine shows a month so I get the best bang for the buck wherever I run.

 

Multi-millions would probably be useful, and a less reckless approach from me would have worked better, but the differences between 07 and 08 were slow to dawn on me in that respect and, well, that's what the editor is for

 

EDIT: I would have pretty much had a zero-loss month (four figures), but the gains in cancelling my TV deal didn't quite balance the loss in advertising revenue.

[Hyde Hill]

Also as mentioned many times before get your home region pop up real high preferbly C or C+ before going for the other regions and a tv deal too early can hurt finances as the price of admission for a tv show is lower then a normal event.

 

Overall CZCW is easy and fun to play and most worker types except brawlers/hardcore can thrive in it.

[dahkai]

its fun but u cant stay at national level once u get there because i cant get any of my wrestlers to become big names so i just yoyo between cult and national and it is very frustrating to say the least

[Sons of Kohral]

I have NEVER played as CZCW, but want to take the plunge. Just a quick question, how many shows should I run per month starting off? 2? 4? Cut it down the middle and do 3?

[jesterx7769]

its fun but u cant stay at national level once u get there because i cant get any of my wrestlers to become big names so i just yoyo between cult and national and it is very frustrating to say the least

 

I know youre asking about it in your other thread but how long did it take you to get to National with them?

[dahkai]

sep 2023 and have been back and forthh twice now

[alden]

I have NEVER played as CZCW, but want to take the plunge. Just a quick question, how many shows should I run per month starting off? 2? 4? Cut it down the middle and do 3?

 

one at the most to start.........like people are saying it is a LONG road for czcw *my fav fed by the way*......

[smurphy1014]

one at the most to start.........like people are saying it is a LONG road for czcw *my fav fed by the way*......

 

I go with 1 per month and I'm doing pretty well profit-wise. CZCW is my favorite fed also. I tend to view it similarly to PWG.

[bak42]

People do seem to fall for the Los Deporte Hoy deal far too often. DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH THEM, it'll do you no good. The only TV-show you're going to need once you reach Cult is one that covers the whole US, you gain nothing from the LDH deal.

 

Heck, I've seen the computer fall for that deal, so it's not just people that get suckered.

[Guest TDubTNA]

This might be a semi-long post but I have been deciding on starting a diary. I got a lot of help from Eisen-Verse and I have taken his suggestions and took it to a different promotion obviously being CZCW. I think a lot of people like CZCW as it's fun and def presents a challenge which I def want to take on. I have a few questions though as I've never run CZCW in any previous TEW installments...so what I'm trying to say in this long winded post(haha) is if anyone could give me a bunch of pointers that would def be appreciated.

 

Here are some questions I'd like to see if you guys would be kind enough to answer...

 

Is there a tip on how I should handle my finances aka on merchadise and other expenses to help me gain money quicker and more effective?

 

Is there a certain roster limit I should have and a certain number of people I should use for shows and for that matter how many shows should I have a month at the max without losing money.

 

Also any tips on what I should do with TV and PPV deals when I am popular enough?

 

And last question I promise...Is there anybody that is a must sign or a slew of guys I should take a look at that you guys would recommend.

 

I really appreciate anyones help and thank you in advance for helping me. Thanks guys

[jhd1]

This might be a semi-long post but I have been deciding on starting a diary. I got a lot of help from Eisen-Verse and I have taken his suggestions and took it to a different promotion obviously being CZCW.

 

Not a CZCW comment so I apologise, but I just wanted to suggest something to you as it applies to the diary, regardless of which promotion you are using.

 

Run a test game. I'm not talking like a ten-year game, but book four or five shows roughly as you would in the diary (i.e. don't worry too much about getting it perfect). If you run a test game you'll be able to figure these things out roughly in your head, you'll know if you can book the company to your liking, hire the people you want to hire etc. Quite a few times I've seen people start a diary, book one show and then quit.

 

Reasonably on-topic, I have, and probably always will have, an affinity for CZCW. They were the first company I ever used (TEW08 demo) but unfortunately I haven't had chance to try them out on 10 - I may have just convinced myself to start a new game!

[Tragik]

Is there a certain roster limit I should have and a certain number of people I should use for shows and for that matter how many shows should I have a month at the max without losing money.

 

Also any tips on what I should do with TV and PPV deals when I am popular enough?

 

And last question I promise...Is there anybody that is a must sign or a slew of guys I should take a look at that you guys would recommend.

 

I play CZCW exclusively, so a couple of my observations on this front:

 

I have always run 1 show a month, at least for the first year or so, if you want to make money. Holding 2 a month, assuming you are using your entire roster, will lose money, though it will help increase overness. However, the Owner Goal to get to $200,000 is often in play, so that tends to decide the question for you. As for television, as has been mentioned numerous times in this thread, do not fall for the TV deal in Mexico; it will bleed you dry, and really doesn't add much to your overness, as most of it is in Mexico. In a longer game in '08, I actually had success with this, as I was pushing a yearly tour in Mexico, but I have had much less success in '10.

 

As for bodies, remember this: Your initial Upper Mid/Main Event scene is Fox, Skye, Donnie J, Prudence, Sparrow, Machine, James, and Perez. You will get 1 show out of Prudence before he is picked up on a written deal, and the CaliDragons will follow suit in a couple months. A couple months after that, Fox and Skye tend to get signed up as TCW hits Global. After 8 or 9 months, in theory, this leaves you with Donnie, Sparrow, and Machine.

 

Get used to this. Like the other Regional promotions (MAW, NYCW), every time you get a Main Eventer to truly matter TCW and SWF comes a'callin'. As such, you will always need to think about your future Main Event scene. Usual suspects that I pick up are: Fumihiro Ota, Kazuma Narato (expensive, though!), American Elemental (as he becomes available), and Hell Monkey (if he doesn't get signed to a written deal). Ota and Narato are already Main Eventers for you, and AmEl and Hell Monkey take very few matches to get to that status.

 

Hope this helps! Good luck and have fun; CZCW can also be a lot of fun if you open up storylines and the heel/face divide, as most of them have great charisma.

[Guest TDubTNA]

Thanks jhd1 and Tragik I def appreciate your help. I'm def going to listen to your advice jhd and take a quick run and see what I can do. Tragik def appreciate on possible signings and possible tv deals. Thanks again

[Ctrl-Alt-Del]

I'm sorry to bump this thread, but I feel CZCW will be the first promotion I take a stab at when I purchase TEW in a week or so. What I would like to know is probably just a general TEW question... If I wanted to run CZCW at the current state it is in, without worrying about growing bigger, is that possible? What if I want to continue to be a small, tape-trading promotion? Sure, I know my talent will be robbed, but it'll be fun to build up new talent again when needed.

[Comradebot]

I'm sorry to bump this thread, but I feel CZCW will be the first promotion I take a stab at when I purchase TEW in a week or so. What I would like to know is probably just a general TEW question... If I wanted to run CZCW at the current state it is in, without worrying about growing bigger, is that possible? What if I want to continue to be a small, tape-trading promotion? Sure, I know my talent will be robbed, but it'll be fun to build up new talent again when needed.

 

Yep. If you never try to hold shows outside of your home region, then you'll never rise above Regional.

[Ctrl-Alt-Del]

Yep. If you never try to hold shows outside of your home region, then you'll never rise above Regional.

 

Would readers of a fed like that get bored? I'm sure you could eventually want to grow bigger? Do people run promotions like this, or is everybody trying to build up? Thanks for all the help, man.

[Irish Wolf]

Would readers of a fed like that get bored? I'm sure you could eventually want to grow bigger? Do people run promotions like this, or is everybody trying to build up? Thanks for all the help, man.

 

Readers eat up CZCW Diaries but you'll be going up against two top diary writers in terms of writing competition for the company. You can build CZCW up to National, I haven't done it with 2010 but I did it in 2008 and 2007. Mostly just hold all your shows in your home region to start, this will help build workers and once you get to about C- overness in your home region you'll start making money. Once you've gotten a big nest egg under your belt then it's the time to start building toward cult.

 

If you've got 65.1% (Which I think is C+) or over in the South West you get spill over into Mid South, North West, Hawaii, Northern Mexico and West Central Mexico. You're overness there will be 29.1% and that will mean that the road to cult just got a little easier. Some people will spam shows in one region to get to cult quicker I prefer to hit two regions running a weekly show bouncing back and forth between the two regions I'm hitting and then a month show in my home region to recoup some of the losses from putting on shows in areas where I'm just not that over.

 

Once you hit cult its sink or swim til national.