~Montreal Aftermath: December 1997 Official Release~

[Phil Parent]

And Michinoku Pro is using MLW's logo.

 

Edit: Test is Canadian. Phil LaFon too.

 

The fact that nobody graduates from the dojos when they activate is a problem because anybody can try to hire somebody that activates no matter where they trained in real life.

 

For exemple, I was able to sign Takeshi Morishima and make an offer for Kurt Angle, despite the fact that they both should have been signed out of camp by the owner of their respective training camps, AJPW and WWE.

 

In my game, WWE DID sign Angle after a week or so, but All Japan never touched Morishima. He has signed with me, and then signed with the upstart Osaka Pro...which makes no sense really.

[Guest Instant Classic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Considering there's been adjustments made and not one piece of feedback about it I have to say you're wrong. <p> </p><p> I find it odd you claim the mod needs "some serious sdjusting" because you find it too difficult. If you're going to make an assumption like that I'd suggest taking the time to read the entire thread. If I would've changed this mod everytime someone complained about it being hard it'd be like nearly every other TEW RW mod of past.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't find it difficult in the slightest bit. I find that the stats are severely under-rated on most workers in the database from top to bottom. I was reading the help file and the stats are not matching what is listed. If someone is a passable brawler they should have a stat somewhere from 50-60, where as most end up with 20-30. Just off the top of my head, Kane is set as a worse worker than half of the ECW undercard. The Rock according to what his stats are would barely be able to come off as being capable of walking through the ropes and lasting over a minute in any given match against anyone. I'm sorry but I don't think England veterans and WCW and WWF Main Eventers are the only ones who should be able to call a match with just a couple Japanese workers thrown in for good measure. If this were the case in real life pro-wrestling would have been so terrible in this time period it would have been unwatchable excluding any angles and storylines.</p><p> </p><p> I am still getting high 80s and 90s on my shows, I just think the wrestling stats for the most part are entirely off the mark.</p>

[paulskln]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't find it difficult in the slightest bit. I find that the stats are severely under-rated on most workers in the database from top to bottom. I was reading the help file and the stats are not matching what is listed. If someone is a passable brawler they should have a stat somewhere from 50-60, where as most end up with 20-30. Just off the top of my head, Kane is set as a worse worker than half of the ECW undercard. The Rock according to what his stats are would barely be able to come off as being capable of walking through the ropes and lasting over a minute in any given match against anyone. I'm sorry but I don't think England veterans and WCW and WWF Main Eventers are the only ones who should be able to call a match with just a couple Japanese workers thrown in for good measure. If this were the case in real life pro-wrestling would have been so terrible in this time period it would have been unwatchable excluding any angles and storylines.<p> </p><p> I am still getting high 80s and 90s on my shows, I just think the wrestling stats for the most part are entirely off the mark.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> yeah i seem to remember the rock and triple h going for about an hour before and putting on a pretty good match.</p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I don't find it difficult in the slightest bit. I find that the stats are severely under-rated on most workers in the database from top to bottom. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> *Sigh* I'm not going to repeat myself for the hundredth time regarding "under-rated" stats, if you don't know my response you need to read more of the threads you post in.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I was reading the help file and the stats are not matching what is listed. If someone is a passable brawler they should have a stat somewhere from 50-60, where as most end up with 20-30. <p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You haven't provided any solid feedback, not one example even of a guy who deserves a better brawling rating.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just off the top of my head, Kane is set as a worse worker than half of the ECW undercard. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> IMO he was a worse worker then half of the ECW undercard in '97. If you disagree I would suggest changing in the editor but by now I take it's a lost cause. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Rock according to what his stats are would barely be able to come off as being capable of walking through the ropes and lasting over a minute in any given match against anyone. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's either a lie or you have no idea how TEW works. Again you've provided no example even in game that can back your statement, if you had you wouldn't have me replying in such a manner. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I'm sorry but I don't think England veterans and WCW and WWF Main Eventers are the only ones who should be able to call a match with just a couple Japanese workers thrown in for good measure. If this were the case in real life pro-wrestling would have been so terrible in this time period it would have been unwatchable excluding any angles and storylines. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks for your <em>opinion</em>, the subject you've raised has been covered and discussed only 2 pages back. I'm starting to think you're playing with Version1.0? </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am still getting high 80s and 90s on my shows, <strong>I just think the wrestling stats for the most part are entirely off the mark.</strong> </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Thanks again for your opinion. </p><p> </p><p> I might make a sticky and link every post regarding these things because it seems everytime a new member who has a little "knowledge" picks it up he feels the need to make his "major changes". I could understand that mentality a little better if they took the time to read the threads they so vehemently post in.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="paulskln" data-cite="paulskln" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>yeah i seem to remember the rock and triple h going for about an hour before and putting on a pretty good match.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You agree lol??? K first off that match was the year 2000, over 2 years after this mod is set. If you start booking WWF and by 2000 can't get a great rating out of HHH vs The Rock with that match then report it and there'll be changes made. The Rock was still greenish even at the end of '97 IMO and improved leaps and bounds over those next few years.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>AGAIN ONLY MY OPINION THOUGH, THERE IS AN EDITOR</strong></span></p>

[Everlong_]

I don't wanna be too pushy, but when do you think can we expect v1.2 to be released? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[FlameSnoopy]

<p>Instant Classic,</p><p> </p><p>

If you have such a problem with the mod, either go to the editor and change the stats yourself, or don't play the mod at all. Or then make your own mod. Nobody cares about your opinion (where you bash the whole mod), when Genadi and his crew spent countless of hours making this mod.</p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Everlong_" data-cite="Everlong_" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't wanna be too pushy, but when do you think can we expect v1.2 to be released? <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nps at all I appologise for lack of updates. It's my goal to have it ready by this Sunday, all going well in about 48 hours. Again sorry for the delay alot going on with work etc atm.</p><p> </p><p> Thanks FlameSnoopy, I really do hope I've made it clear I appreciate the feedback you guy give and it does show with updated versions. Instant Classic as with every other post like his happens to be a new member. That's not a shot at any new people just a growing trend (and maybe inside joke <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> ) I hope can be curbed by members taking the time to inform themselves. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Guest Instant Classic]

<p>If you guys cannot take criticism from anyone I would highly suggest not releasing the data in a public place, you guys are showing some serious maturity issues here. Examples? Sure.</p><p> </p><p>

The Rock is set as a 52 in brawling which is a C-. That falls under just barely average which means The Rock is barely competent in this skill to get away with it in very small doses. Kane is a 51 in brawling. Which means somehow according to one of the guys that worked on the mod, they feel Blue Meanie was just as good of a brawler then as both The Rock and Glen Jacobs when even several years later Meanie was incapable of putting on a decent performance.</p><p> </p><p>

Or we take a look at Fit Finlay who at the time was on par with Steven Regal when it came to talent, but most of the stats that Fit was superb in even 13 years ago are rated as under average. The guy was always great with submission holds and chain wrestling but he's got horrible ratings of around 50 in both.</p><p> </p><p>

Or take a look at Alex Wright. Low 20s in brawling indicates the man can barely throw a punch and kick without tripping over himself. Low 20s mean a worker is so horrible at a particular skill that they need several years of matches against great brawlers to even become halfway competent in the skill. I mean I can keep going here, I'm just pulling up random people now.</p><p> </p><p>

The only thing I can think of is the mod makers are using today's standards of wrestling and using them to grade the pace of wrestling in 1997/8. Although the "I think Kane was a horrible brawler then" pretty much showed my point. It appears no one working on this mod is even grading on a scale and is instead just randomly plopping down numbers to reflect their personal opinions. <strong>Just looking; Jeff Hardy has the same skill in brawling as Kane and The Rock and at that point in time, Jeff is 20 years old with no proper ring training.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

So you guys wanted examples? There you go. 3 random examples in Finlay, Jeff and Alex Wright. I'm sorry you guys can't handle criticism but the grading system is thoroughly outlined and all I did was point out some of you aren't following the scale. One of you then basically admitted they weren't following the scale and instead were working on personal preference and opinion and I even wonder if that person was even watching wrestling at the time with the way he's coming off.</p><p> </p><p>

No one is doubting the work people put into this, but the way they're conducting themselves is getting ridiculous. "Don't like it then get the hell out"? Maturity level is rising for sure. But there you go, plenty of examples to work with. I will not be visiting this thread again nor will I be playing the mod again as you guys have shown the lack of maturity to discuss this, so I do suggest you rework your people skills before addressing another person questioning your god-complexes.</p>

[FlameSnoopy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Instant Classic" data-cite="Instant Classic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you guys cannot take criticism from anyone I would highly suggest not releasing the data in a public place, you guys are showing some serious maturity issues here. Examples? Sure.<p> </p><p> The Rock is set as a 52 in brawling which is a C-. That falls under just barely average which means The Rock is barely competent in this skill to get away with it in very small doses. Kane is a 51 in brawling. Which means somehow according to one of the guys that worked on the mod, they feel Blue Meanie was just as good of a brawler then as both The Rock and Glen Jacobs when even several years later Meanie was incapable of putting on a decent performance.</p><p> </p><p> Or we take a look at Fit Finlay who at the time was on par with Steven Regal when it came to talent, but most of the stats that Fit was superb in even 13 years ago are rated as under average. The guy was always great with submission holds and chain wrestling but he's got horrible ratings of around 50 in both.</p><p> </p><p> Or take a look at Alex Wright. Low 20s in brawling indicates the man can barely throw a punch and kick without tripping over himself. Low 20s mean a worker is so horrible at a particular skill that they need several years of matches against great brawlers to even become halfway competent in the skill. I mean I can keep going here, I'm just pulling up random people now.</p><p> </p><p> The only thing I can think of is the mod makers are using today's standards of wrestling and using them to grade the pace of wrestling in 1997/8. Although the "I think Kane was a horrible brawler then" pretty much showed my point. It appears no one working on this mod is even grading on a scale and is instead just randomly plopping down numbers to reflect their personal opinions. <strong>Just looking; Jeff Hardy has the same skill in brawling as Kane and The Rock and at that point in time, Jeff is 20 years old with no proper ring training.</strong></p><p> </p><p> So you guys wanted examples? There you go. 3 random examples in Finlay, Jeff and Alex Wright. I'm sorry you guys can't handle criticism but the grading system is thoroughly outlined and all I did was point out some of you aren't following the scale. One of you then basically admitted they weren't following the scale and instead were working on personal preference and opinion and I even wonder if that person was even watching wrestling at the time with the way he's coming off.</p><p> </p><p> No one is doubting the work people put into this, but the way they're conducting themselves is getting ridiculous. "Don't like it then get the hell out"? Maturity level is rising for sure. But there you go, plenty of examples to work with. I will not be visiting this thread again nor will I be playing the mod again as you guys have shown the lack of maturity to discuss this, so I do suggest you rework your people skills before addressing another person questioning your god-complexes.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You didn't really provide any good examples (earlier), but this post has some nice constructive criticism.</p>

[Slim Jim]

<p>The problem there isn't Kane / Rock being low; it's Jeff being high (shocking, eh? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)</p><p> </p><p>

If you go back and watch '97/'98, Kane wasn't even wrestling, really, he was showing up to play mind games with 'Taker and then beat him down... because he was still pretty average in the ring, if not poor. Go back a little further to when he was fake Diesel and some of his work is bordering on cringeworthy. I think the program with 'Taker really, really helped him improve and can only assume he was getting a lot of training with him off the main shows because he did become a solid worker pretty quickly from what he was in late '97.</p><p> </p><p>

Rock was never an amazing craftsman in the ring. Ever. He had unmeasurable amounts of charisma, and developed great psychology, and probably pretty high flashiness (if I understand it right, the People's Elbow is essentially an elbow drop caked in extra "flash"). In '97, he wasn't really special in the ring, he was just dripping charisma and star quality (which both get a bonus in WWF matches IIRC). As long as his basics and psychology aren't getting him booed out of the building, which they aren't, he isn't far off where he needs to be. Personally, I did up him slightly but that might be personal bias now that I'm looking more objectively.</p><p> </p><p>

Jeff should just be made to be dire at this point. Star quality, aerial skills, dose of charisma, he should be able to get by if you protect him and have him in the ring with better workers, and throw him in spot-based matches.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, I agree completely on Finlay; criminally underrated. His lack of entertainment skills and star quality should hold him back plenty in WCW and WWF.</p><p> </p><p>

Small note, just spotted that Michael Cole is set to be 17 <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[kje3334]

If you guys cannot take criticism from anyone I would highly suggest not releasing the data in a public place, you guys are showing some serious maturity issues here. Examples? Sure.

If you cannot provide constructive criticism I would highly suggest not using any public released data.

 

If you have any more examples, he has said many times he would be happy to take a look at it. If you have more issues, don't be an idiot over it. Just post your examples and if they don't get changed in the next version, you can change it yourself in the editor.

[Genadi]

<p>Instant Classic your post proves my suspicion, you have no idea how TEW works yet your posting so stupidly regarding it. If guys like Jeff Hardy and Alex Wright had the stats you wanted they'd be two of the best workers in the World within years. Finlay has a C- rating in submissions which is far from horrible, again I don't think you understand the game too well to making statements which you seem so sure about. The example is still a terrible one, what subs does he have in his arsenal that should see him higher then a C-? If you can provide some good examples you'll prob see him boosted in that stat for next release. If you qq with no solid stuff to back it up you'll continue to be shot down I'd say. I did notice you failed to address any of the post where I replied to every issue you had and chose to instead reply with </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you guys cannot take criticism from anyone I would highly suggest not releasing the data in a public place, you guys are showing some serious maturity issues here.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Then you went ahead and gave some feedback as requested lol. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No one is doubting the work people put into this, but the way they're conducting themselves is getting ridiculous. "Don't like it then get the hell out"? Maturity level is rising for sure. But there you go, plenty of examples to work with. I will not be visiting this thread again nor will I be playing the mod again as you guys have shown the lack of maturity to discuss this, so I do suggest you rework your people skills before addressing another person questioning your god-complexes.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh boy <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Again I'll ask you to read the thread you are posting in before posting such nonsense. I'd say if you took the time to do so not only would your posting look different but you wouldn't have been received as you have been, which has actually been pretty mild considering lol. Thank God Fenoli must be on holiday or something <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Edit - Just an interesting note I thought you guys should know. Alot of changes people have requested (let's use J.Hardy is too low rated for example) are specifically set to their stats after I received fantastic feedback from some of the devs. I had him set alot higher and then after feedback realised he was going to peak in skills way too early and become far better then in reality. That came straight from guys who know the game inside and out not 3 month old members who as always "know the real stats guys should have". <strong>I don't just go and rate everyone as I think with the touch of God, it's a long process which involves me listening to as many informed members (and non-members) as I can.</strong> Hopefully it's a litttle clearer now why I'm hesitiant and growing tired of explaining why so and so is rated low. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate feeback on stats still <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slim Jim" data-cite="Slim Jim" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The problem there isn't Kane / Rock being low; it's Jeff being high (shocking, eh? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />)<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed Jeff needs a little lowering in brawling and maybe a few other stats on review. Finlay I will probably give a little bump in tech skills also but not by much at all.</p>

[LearningTree]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Alot of changes people have requested (let's use J.Hardy is too low rated for example) are specifically set to their stats after I received fantastic feedback from some of the devs. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You misunderstood his post.</p><p> </p><p> He wasn't saying he wanted Hardy's stats boosted, he was stating the similarities between the brawling skills of an apparently, in your opinion, a underpowered Jeff Hardy with The Rock and Kane. The point he was making was that even Jeff hardy had similar brawling stats to The Rock and Kane, which is pretty ludicrous even with the argument that The Rock and Kane were green.</p><p> </p><p> I'm not going to get into were on the development scale Rock and Kane were because it isn't relevant, they are brawlers to Jeff's spot monkey, yet are rated the same. It makes no sense, although I know all of the stats are subjective.</p><p> </p><p> I know you may feel like you're being attacked constantly while people are giving their opinions about your mod, but many of the points are valid and perhaps a better approach in dealing with it would make things go much smoother in order to get the best mod possible in the end.</p>

[Genadi]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LearningTree" data-cite="LearningTree" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I'm not going to get into were on the development scale Rock and Kane were because it isn't relevant, they are brawlers to Jeff's spot monkey, yet are rated the same. It makes no sense, although I know all of the stats are subjective.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Did you read the post above I just made? Jeff's brawling stat does need lowering. See how you made that point in one sentence without drama, that's the point I was trying/have been making for weeks now.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="LearningTree" data-cite="LearningTree" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I know you may feel like you're being attacked constantly while people are giving their opinions about your mod, but many of the points are valid and perhaps a better approach in dealing with it would make things go much smoother in order to get the best mod possible in the end. </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't feel like I'm being attacked at all, I deal with all <strong>valid </strong>points with open arms <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Phil Parent]

I'll test it so that you can clear all the factual mistakes in there, you know wrong nationalities, wrong ages...

 

I enjoy playing it, good work buddy

[AstroCreep]

I think people need to stop bitching like little girls over wether The Rock was a good brawler in late 1997 or not. A lot of time and effort has been in to it cleary,and if you don't agree,just change them. I didn't agree with some stats,i just changed them in the editor and was grateful somebody made a mod i wouldn't have the time or patience to do.

[paulskln]

I think people need to stop bitching like little girls over wether The Rock was a good brawler in late 1997 or not. A lot of time and effort has been in to it cleary,and if you don't agree,just change them. I didn't agree with some stats,i just changed them in the editor and was grateful somebody made a mod i wouldn't have the time or patience to do.

 

people are entitled to an opinion...if the mod maker dont like suggestions opinions critics then he or she might as well not bother putting it on these boards.

[Genadi]

people are entitled to an opinion...if the mod maker dont like suggestions opinions critics then he or she might as well not bother putting it on these boards.

 

I deal with all valid points with open arms

 

Is there an echo in here? I posted that 3 posts back. Who said people aren't entitled to their opinions? I suggest you re-read the last few pages and see why people are taking issue with InstantClassics conduct.

[paulskln]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27100" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is there an echo in here? I posted that 3 posts back. Who said people aren't entitled to their opinions? I suggest you re-read the last few pages and see why people are taking issue with InstantClassics conduct.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ok i apologise my mistake i wont say another thing.</p>

[mrallan]

Not sure if your still actively updating this because I know you said you were busy IRL but I just noticed a minor thing to change for the WWF.

 

If you are going to keep Aguila on the roster you might want to change his default picture and change it to where he has a mask. I don't know if it was WWF specific or if he wore it while competing else where.

 

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9913/agulia.jpg

[paulskln]

Not sure if your still actively updating this because I know you said you were busy IRL but I just noticed a minor thing to change for the WWF.

 

If you are going to keep Aguila on the roster you might want to change his default picture and change it to where he has a mask. I don't know if it was WWF specific or if he wore it while competing else where.

 

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9913/agulia.jpg

 

he wore the same mask in CMLL also and lost it in 1998.he went back to wwe/wwf as Papi Chulo without the mask.later became Essa Rios.

[wilts]

I have just had a read through the last few pages of this thread and have to say, DAMN!

The way that people behave on the internet is getting to be past the point of ridiculous.

Genadi and his crew have provided you with something for free. Also, this something wasn't put together in 5 minutes, there is obviously a lot of work gone into it. So, if you don't like it or agree with it then you have 3 options;

 

1. Post constructive criticism, but ensure that you are polite.

2. Make any adjustments yourself in the editor (it isn't just there for cheating )

3. Move onto another mod in the hope that you may find one you like. No-one is forcing you to play this mod.

 

Genadi, I am so grateful for the work that you and your crew do year after year on these fantastic mods. Thank you so much for all your time and effort!!!

 

P.S. Consider this, there are constantly games released for consoles that have major bugs in them or issues with the date. These bugs/issues are never addressed and you actually PAY for these games. Do you phone the developer and speak to them in the tone that you are using with Genadi?

[denzil85]

I agree wilts, but in releasing this mod, Genadi has made himself my own personal mod slave - thats the problem with releasing mods to a community

[Genadi]

Not sure if your still actively updating this because I know you said you were busy IRL but I just noticed a minor thing to change for the WWF.

 

Thanks for that and the pic

 

Thanks Wilts & Denzil, in hindsight I have to admit I could've handled some of it a little better. Something I learnt a long time ago working in PR is that even though someone asks you a question you've answered a thousand times and may be tired of answering, it's probably the first time that person has ever asked that question... if that makes sense

 

Alot has to do with the time and effort spent creating this thing, but I'll try to be a little more responsive and watchful of my tone moving forward.

 

Working on the update as we speak...