DreamGoddessLindsey Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Even with characters I have pre-set to "Excellent" potential, the stats stop increasing AT ALL at 80. They don't even bump 0.1 on anyone. Anyone who starts with over 80 never gains anything. I have a bunch of people pre-set to "Excellent" potential, but NONE of them are gaining any stats, and they're all 20-21 years old as well. Any insight here? I'd like to develop my talent, but it seems impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningHamster Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <p>Why are you pre-setting people to excellent and then leaving them in development and hoping their to get their skills above 80?</p><p> </p><p> If you are that heavily into stat building how is it you are not hooked up to WoW by some kind of IV?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 So you can't turn CM Punk into the perfect wrestling machine like you could by sticking him in development in EWR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 Honestly? So you CAN'T have workers become the best in the world simply by being in development. Not only would it be cheesy, but also incredibly unrealistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamGoddessLindsey Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 <p>Um, I think there's been a bit of a miscommunication here.</p><p> </p><p> I don't have them in development, I just mean I'm trying to develop them.</p><p> </p><p> I'm using them on every weekly show and on PPVs for my main company, but their stats are never going up, not even by 0.1. I'm NOT putting them in development trying to get over 80. That'd be kinda silly.</p><p> </p><p> Sorry if I wasn't clearer. My bad.</p><p> </p><p> I'm using them, and they're gaining nothing. That's the problem I'm having. Not even a 0.1 increase after six months of constant use. It's like it goes right up to 80 and stalls. Around 80. Sometimes it stalls at 79, sometimes 81 or so. You get the idea, though. I can't seem to develop my talents even through regular use of them. Like one of my main eventers is a 21 year old with 82 brawling, and after six months of constant use on shows, he's still at 82.0 without gaining even a 0.1. This means 82 is the best he'll get despite being set to Excellent potential. I set them to that so they'd still have room to improve, but he and many of my other workers gain absolutely nothing in the in-ring stats.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: This also only seems to effect direct in-ring stats (Rumble, Aerial, and Technical) and not Performance skills (which still seem to go up a little).</p><p> </p><p> I'm basically asking if I'm missing some key to triggering character development. I'm not the best player in the game. I admit that. I don't grasp a lot of it. I admit my weakness. I just need help.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27249" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Um, I think there's been a bit of a miscommunication here.<p> </p><p> I don't have them in development, I just mean I'm trying to develop them.</p><p> </p><p> I'm using them on every weekly show and on PPVs for my main company, but their stats are never going up, not even by 0.1. I'm NOT putting them in development trying to get over 80. That'd be kinda silly.</p><p> </p><p> Sorry if I wasn't clearer. My bad.</p><p> </p><p> I'm using them, and they're gaining nothing. That's the problem I'm having. Not even a 0.1 increase after six months of constant use. It's like it goes right up to 80 and stalls. Around 80. Sometimes it stalls at 79, sometimes 81 or so. You get the idea, though. I can't seem to develop my talents even through regular use of them. Like one of my main eventers is a 21 year old with 82 brawling, and after six months of constant use on shows, he's still at 82.0 without gaining even a 0.1. This means 82 is the best he'll get despite being set to Excellent potential. I set them to that so they'd still have room to improve, but he and many of my other workers gain absolutely nothing in the in-ring stats.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First off...</p><p> </p><p> 80 is still very, very high. How many workers have a B in any of the top row stats in the CVerse? </p><p> </p><p> Second...</p><p> </p><p> Odds are, they'll have to face someone with better stats than themselves in order to gain any. If there's no one better than them, than no one can teach them. Sometimes young workers gain stats on their own, but I have no clue if a 20 year old with a B in brawling can still gain any. It's not exactly a normal situation.</p><p> </p><p> Third...</p><p> </p><p> Even with pre-set exceptional potential, I think there's a bit of randomness. Not every worker with exceptional potential is going to develop into the exact same worker if they were to reach their potential. I think things like size and athleticism can effect it.</p><p> </p><p> Fourth...</p><p> </p><p> You have people with B brawling. Normally, that'd make a person happy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27249" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Second...<p> </p><p> Odds are, they'll have to face someone with better stats than themselves in order to gain any. If there's no one better than them, than no one can teach them. Sometimes young workers gain stats on their own, but I have no clue if a 20 year old with a B in brawling can still gain any. It's not exactly a normal situation.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Comradebot makes 4 great points, but I think this is the best. The best way to improve at anything in life is to work with people better than you. Singing. Acting. Dynasty Writing. Fly Fishing. Wrestling. I have no inside knowledge of how TEW works, but I expect that people improve based on who they're fighting. If your 82 brawling rookie is battling 99-rated brawlers, then I'd be a little surprised at a lack of improvement. If he's fighting 65-rated brawlers, then I wouldn't be surprised at all.</p><p> </p><p> 82 is fantastic. AWESOME for a top row stat. I sometimes think Numbers make people underestimate folks abilities. A C+ to me looks good. Solid. Dependable. 66% however looks a bit sub-par, despite having the exact same effect. Might just be my perception though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27249" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you are that heavily into stat building how is it you are not hooked up to WoW by some kind of IV?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LOL theorycrafting in WoW is for lightweights. Try figuring out what mods you need to install to hit (and maintain) the optimal transversal velocity while remaining cap stable so your battlecruiser doesn't get popped like a snot bubble while motoring through hostile territory (EVE).</p><p> </p><p> Comradebot hit on it. But there's also the law of diminishing returns to consider. Even if a worker worked with people better than they are, you'll notice skill increases coming at a MUCH slower pace. This might be way off but eyeballing things when I'm developing people, it seems like it's faster for a worker to go from 1 to 70 in a skill than it is to go from 80 to 90. Think about that.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil85 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27249" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>LOL theorycrafting in WoW is for lightweights. Try figuring out what mods you need to install to hit (and maintain) the optimal transversal velocity while remaining cap stable so your battlecruiser doesn't get popped like a snot bubble while motoring through hostile territory (EVE).<p> </p><p> Comradebot hit on it. But there's also the law of diminishing returns to consider. Even if a worker worked with people better than they are, you'll notice skill increases coming at a MUCH slower pace. This might be way off but eyeballing things when I'm developing people, it seems like it's faster for a worker to go from 1 to 70 in a skill than it is to go from 80 to 90. Think about that.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah "snot bubble" - possibly my favourite under used way of describing something not very good!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 So they're all 20 or 21... Ever consider also that they might not be able to hit their peak until later in life? How many wrestlers do you see IRL who become "perfect" in their early 20s? It's not like Silvan Grenier or Ken Doane or Chris Masters were amazing at that age (three most recent examples on the big stage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlameSnoopy Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Moe Hunter" data-cite="Moe Hunter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="27249" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So they're all 20 or 21... Ever consider also that they might not be able to hit their peak until later in life? How many wrestlers do you see IRL who become "perfect" in their early 20s? It's not like Silvan Grenier or Ken Doane or Chris Masters were amazing at that age (three most recent examples on the big stage).</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah wrestlers peak ten years later.. Why would you even expect them to be 99.8% in brawling when they turn 24 <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyGarner Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 If you get them to the 80s when they are young do they still improve beyond that for the monthly stat gains? And I know the 80 rule isn't true for all stats especially for stats like stamina and charisma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I can't say I've seen workers stall at 80. The growth slows as they get higher up, certainly. But I have yet to see any widespread lack of forward progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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