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Whilst playing the game an interesting question popped into my mind.

 

Example Match - WWE RAW Money in the Bank

 

How many crazy bumps are there in this (or any for that matter) money in the bank match? Compared to the game where only a select few will take bumps, it seems that a lot more in reality will take some. I'm just wondering which are classified as 'Crazy' bumps.

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<p>IMO if you have to ask if it is a crazy bump then it isn't a crazy bump. I think of a crazy bump as something that hasn't been done before and is completely outside the normal for the given match. As such there is no guarantee that it can be done safely as there is no or very little point of reference. That is why there is such a high risk of injury for them is TEW.</p><p> </p><p>

That is my take on it. I would say in the average money in the bank there are no crazy bumps. I think a crazy bump would be Mick Foley in HIAC or Vic Grimes off the scaffold would be examples of bumps gone bad while Shane McMahon off the titan tron and Rikishi off the cell would be examples of them gone correctly.</p>

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Yeah, I don't look at most of the big bumps that take place in the MITB. They're big, but not insane. A "crazy bump" is the kind of one you'll only ever see once in your lifetime. Like Mick Foley going off the top of the HIAC or maybe even Jeff Hardy's huge ladder from SummerSlam a few years ago.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Bigpapa42" data-cite="Bigpapa42" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Jeff Hardy's huge ladder from SummerSlam a few years ago.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What do you mean "huge ladder."</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShaunGBD" data-cite="ShaunGBD" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What do you mean "huge ladder."</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9cfBCvYkxc" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9cfBCvYkxc</a></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9cfBCvYkxc" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9cfBCvYkxc</a></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's definetly a crazy bump.</p><p> </p><p> Really, a crazy bump is any big "oh ****!" high risk spot. Foley off the side of the cell, Hardy off that ladder (and a lot of his TLC/ladder matches have featured Jeff doing a crazy bump), Shane McMahon off the Titantron, Steve Blackman then jumping on Shane McMahon after Shane was tossed off the Titantron...</p><p> </p><p> Those are crazy bumps.</p><p> </p><p> But, I like to feel it's up to some loose interpretation. Unless you're a garbage company, you're not gonna see a crazy bump once but a blue moon. If it's something you see once or twice a year on a regular basis in TNA or WWE, and you really don't remember it all that well later on/it didn't really add all that much to the match, then it probably wasn't a crazy bump.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShaunGBD" data-cite="ShaunGBD" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>MITB.. I was their WM 23. Jeff did his Swanton Bomb to edge in the MITB match. and broke a ladder in the process. (I belive the ladder might have been wooden.. but still) that's what I would call a crazy bump</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty sure I remember the bump you're referring to. It was impressive, but to me, it wasn't an epic sick bump. There was obviously risk involved, but that's true of almost anything that is done in the ring - as Austin's broken neck showed, even "normal" moves carry risk. Given how few workers will do a sick bump in the game, it seems like it has to be truly something monstrous. Truly risky. Which is why most of us limit it to stuff like Foley going off the Hell in the Cell.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ShaunGBD" data-cite="ShaunGBD" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>MITB.. I was their WM 23. Jeff did his Swanton Bomb to edge in the MITB match. and broke a ladder in the process. (I belive the ladder might have been wooden.. but still) that's what I would call a crazy bump</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He didn't do a swanton, he did a seated senton/leg drop. Still, wouldn't say it's a crazy bump, just a high spot.</p>
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To me a "sick bump" does not have to be a high flying fall or something like that. What about shane through the glass at kotr? I mean come on....the thud that shanes bdoy made was sick. I know it was a messed up spot but i would still call it a "sick bump"
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="alden" data-cite="alden" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To me a "sick bump" does not have to be a high flying fall or something like that. What about shane through the glass at kotr? I mean come on....the thud that shanes bdoy made was sick. I know it was a messed up spot but i would still call it a "sick bump"</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True.</p><p> </p><p> But again, the "oh ****!"-meter. </p><p> </p><p> That said, the majority of crazy bumps will be high flying/big fall related.</p>
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From my end... I would say no. Barb wire, tables, and flaming tables are nasty. They are most certainly serious bumps. But I don't know that I would put them into the category of sick bumps. The barb wire, much like tacks, is more of a pain tolerance thing than a true heavy risk. And flaming tables, while somewhat more dangerous than regular tables, are extreme-lookging but truly not that dangerous. Same as most ladder bumbs or going off the stage, etc. You can get hurt, but how truly dangerous is it?

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="sprinklefurball" data-cite="sprinklefurball" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If all else fails, the user character will always take a crazy bump.</div></blockquote><p> No I won't. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No I won't. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <em>*Goes into Editor*</em></p><p> </p><p> Yes you will dammit, or else I'll change your drive and liberal attitude.... maybe make you female while I'm here.... now jump of that damn ladder! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><em>*Goes into Editor*</em><p> </p><p> Yes you will dammit, or else I'll change your drive and liberal attitude.... maybe make you female while I'm here.... now jump of that damn ladder! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lmao, Good idea.</p><p> My user character is always happy to bump.</p>
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I have always thought of crazy bumps as relative to the promotion using them. So what would be considered a crazy bump in a traditional environment, would be considered tame in a garbage promotion. And by extension, to be a crazy bump in a garbage promotion, someone had better be losing a limb.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slim Jim" data-cite="Slim Jim" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have always thought of crazy bumps as relative to the promotion using them. So what would be considered a crazy bump in a traditional environment, would be considered tame in a garbage promotion. And by extension, to be a crazy bump in a garbage promotion, someone had better be losing a limb.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not from my understanding, a sick bump is a sick bump. Falling off a scaffold is a crazy bump whether it's in the old NWA or 90's BJW.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not from my understanding, a sick bump is a sick bump. Falling off a scaffold is a crazy bump whether it's in the old NWA or 90's BJW.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is true.</p><p> </p><p> Working in a promotion that is generally dangerous is the "Match Danger" slider, which would generally be set high to represent an ever present danger within match, such as original ECW. On it's own this will reduce physical health more quickly the higher the danger is, but can often produce slightly higher rated matches too.</p><p> </p><p> Then you have dangerous matches as defined in the match type itself via "Injury Risk". This obviously makes it more likely to get a big injury, without the need for a sick bump. Between "Match Danger" and "Injury Risk" you have covered a lot of the most likely causes of wear and tear, and injury.</p><p> </p><p> Then you have sick bumps. They are the moves that are guaranteed to cause some physical damage if you do them. They also have a very high risk of causing an injury to the person doing them too. This isn't relative to the promotion's product, it's a big move that is going to permanently shorten the career of the worker doing it, no matter how hard you try to protect them. The payoff is that the worker will likely gain a lot of popularity from it, being on highlight reels forever and whatnot will do that for you.</p><p> </p><p> As for examples of sick bumps... they're harder. The WWE doesn't have many because most of the insanely big ones are staged and really not dangerous at all, so don't fall into the last category. They LOOK like sick bumps, but they aren't. Mick Foley's HIAC fall counts for sure. Some of Jeff's swantons count. Being thrown off a scaffold by New Jack counts. Being in a room with New Jack probably counts too... but a lot of the things we talk about as sick bumps are just stunts. Dangerous to a degree, but only in the context of the match itself rather than as a true sick bump.</p><p> </p><p> Hopefully this helps. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29498" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Being in a room with New Jack probably counts too</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lol. Quote of the year</p>
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