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Two questions: Flopping angles, and changing networks.


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First off, it seems my angles ALWAYS flop, and I can't quite tell why. Just looking at the stats that are supposed to be rated, my angles seem to always come in about a letter grade lower than expected. (Ox Baker's A Mic gets me C/C+...my C/C- midcarders give me D/D+ Overness angles...my A* Entertainers can only manage a high B) I've got the right ratio, and I'm not using risky angles, so I'm not sure what in the product could be wrong, and the dirt sheet isn't giving me tons of help either, unless I'm just underestimating stuff like minor drug habits. It's tough to build my midcard, because if I use anybody outside of the ME in an angle, it drags down the whole show.

 

My second question concerns TV shows. I'm a cult fed, and I've got a weekly show on a small network. I want to go for National by getting some national coverage, but every time I try to add another network, my network blocks me. I can't add another show because I'm not big enough. I finally figured I should just let my contract expire and THEN negotiate with a bigger network, only to find that networks are done negotiating in the last week of the month. I'm stuck for three months without TV now, I guess, going into the biggest event of my fed's calendar. Is there anything I can do now? Anything I should have done differently?

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tom Bombadil" data-cite="Tom Bombadil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off, it seems my angles ALWAYS flop, and I can't quite tell why. Just looking at the stats that are supposed to be rated, my angles seem to always come in about a letter grade lower than expected. (Ox Baker's A Mic gets me C/C+...my C/C- midcarders give me D/D+ Overness angles...my A* Entertainers can only manage a high B) I've got the right ratio, and I'm not using risky angles, so I'm not sure what in the product could be wrong, and the dirt sheet isn't giving me tons of help either, unless I'm just underestimating stuff like minor drug habits. It's tough to build my midcard, because if I use anybody outside of the ME in an angle, it drags down the whole show.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Even though an angle is rated on entertainment, overness still plays a part. So having a main eventer running an angle will always grade higher than a midcarder with the same skills. </p><p> </p><p> Drug habits do seem to have a big effect on angles as well. For example in my TNA diary Jeff Hardy's promo rated D+ which is massively below his B overness and B(ish) entertainment skills.</p><p> </p><p> Also, you say you have the 'right ratio.' Assuming it is 80% or less, you're right that shouldn't be the cause of your problems. You'd know if it was because you get a note along the lines of 'we came to see wrestling, shut up.'</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tom Bombadil" data-cite="Tom Bombadil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>My second question concerns TV shows. I'm a cult fed, and I've got a weekly show on a small network. I want to go for National by getting some national coverage, but every time I try to add another network, my network blocks me. I can't add another show because I'm not big enough. I finally figured I should just let my contract expire and THEN negotiate with a bigger network, only to find that networks are done negotiating in the last week of the month. I'm stuck for three months without TV now, I guess, going into the biggest event of my fed's calendar. Is there anything I can do now? Anything I should have done differently?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In the third week of the month cancel your TV contract and then request negotiations with the bigger network. You'll lose one or two shows but it is better than losing all three months.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>In the third week of the month cancel your TV contract and then request negotiations with the bigger network. You'll lose one or two shows but it is better than losing all three months.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You don't need to do that at all. When you are wanting to change networks, you simply use the "expand show" button. When you are in the last month of your contract the network you are currently on can't block you from signing the same show with a new network in the same areas they cover. Then it's just a case of finding a new network that will take you.</p><p> </p><p> As for the rest... a bad angle or two isn't going to bring down your entire show. Your show rating is based 70% on your main event, 20% on your semi-main and 10% on the average fo the rest of your matches. Your angles are then factored in, with the average of your major angles being used. If it's below the matches then your show will lose some points... if it's above then it can gain some points, with the further apart they are being a guide to how far the show will move.</p><p> </p><p> High momentum, high gimmick ratings, high popularity and high skills in whatever is being rated are what will give you the ratings you want. I find that breaking about 70 popularity with someone is where things start to get easy, as overness is high enough to generate more overness on it's own just in angles. Midcarders generally aren't up to that level... which is why angles in shows tend to focus on main eventers the most. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You don't need to do that at all. When you are wanting to change networks, you simply use the "expand show" button. When you are in the last month of your contract the network you are currently on can't block you from signing the same show with a new network in the same areas they cover.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Does this also apply to exclusive shows? Would seem to be a pretty big loophole if it didn't.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="derek_b" data-cite="derek_b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You don't need to do that at all. When you are wanting to change networks, you simply use the "expand show" button. When you are in the last month of your contract the network you are currently on can't block you from signing the same show with a new network in the same areas they cover. Then it's just a case of finding a new network that will take you.<p> </p><p> As for the rest... a bad angle or two isn't going to bring down your entire show. Your show rating is based 70% on your main event, 20% on your semi-main and 10% on the average fo the rest of your matches. Your angles are then factored in, with the average of your major angles being used. If it's below the matches then your show will lose some points... if it's above then it can gain some points, with the further apart they are being a guide to how far the show will move.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> -I am pretty sure I DID get blocked previously when I was trying to expand, but there's the chance it wasn't the last month at the time. >_></p><p> -So angles factor separately from matches? Did not know that- I assumed it was all one big pot, although I was aware that it's weighted towards the ME.</p><p> </p><p> That actually raises two more questions, if y'all would be so kind.</p><p> -Does that mean that Angles don't count as a "main event"? There have been many times where I wanted to run a hot angle after my last match, but I held off on it because it wouldn't be as strong as the match and having it before wouldn't make storyline sense.</p><p> -How does Perfect Show Theory affect that? I've BEEN putting my best match last, my second-best first, and my third-best next to last...should I be swapping my opener and sub-main?</p><p> -Three, actually. Does length of the segment affect the overall at all? Is there a difference between a thirty minute match and a ten minute match with the same rating in the same spot?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tom Bombadil" data-cite="Tom Bombadil" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That actually raises two more questions, if y'all would be so kind.<p> -Does that mean that Angles don't count as a "main event"? There have been many times where I wanted to run a hot angle after my last match, but I held off on it because it wouldn't be as strong as the match and having it before wouldn't make storyline sense.</p><p> -How does Perfect Show Theory affect that? I've BEEN putting my best match last, my second-best first, and my third-best next to last...should I be swapping my opener and sub-main?</p><p> -Three, actually. Does length of the segment affect the overall at all? Is there a difference between a thirty minute match and a ten minute match with the same rating in the same spot?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Angles don't count as a main event. I can say this emphatically and with tons of data (last match - 54, three angles following the last match all 100, show rating, nowhere near 100). The last match on the show is always considered the main event for show rating purposes.</p><p> </p><p> Your second to last match should always be your SECOND BEST match. Putting it in the opener is shooting yourself in the face. From memory, the main event comprises 70% of the show rating with the semi-main as 20% and the undercard comprising the final 10% (derek will correct me if I'm misremembering. I don't even consciously think of it anymore). If your second best match is an undercard match, you're not getting as much from it as you should be getting.</p><p> </p><p> Length of the segment means nothing if it's a match, unless it goes against your product's expected match lengths or is otherwise penalized (going too long for the workers' stamina/psychology, etc). If your product has 5 minute minimums for all three levels of match (minor, medium, major), whether your main event is 7 minutes or 60, it's still a main event match. Likewise for semi main and undercard matches.</p>
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<p>Something that I think is often overlooked is Minor angles, which do not effect the overall show rating. These exist specifically so that you can use angles to build lower card workers, or give training time to someone less skilled on the microphone, without tanking your show.</p><p> </p><p>

Use these for what they're intended for, and you can build midcarders without drowning them with your main eventers.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Greg McNeish" data-cite="Greg McNeish" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="29542" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Something that I think is often overlooked is Minor angles, which do not effect the overall show rating. These exist specifically so that you can use angles to build lower card workers, or give training time to someone less skilled on the microphone, without tanking your show.<p> </p><p> Use these for what they're intended for, and you can build midcarders without drowning them with your main eventers.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is NOT what they're intended for. Minor angles are meant to be things that people won't really care about or remember. Walking to the ring, arriving at the arena, video reminders of what has happened... basically, it's for filler.</p><p> </p><p> Anything that advances an actual plot is a major angle. Just because it isn't your main eventers doesn't mean it doesn't contribute... otherwise you might was well add the ability to ignore lesser matches because they aren't as memorable as main event matches.</p><p> </p><p> While I'm on the subject though... if people want to abuse minor angles like that then they can. It just isn't the intended usage, but it's something any human player can do if they want and I'm not going to tell someone how they can and can't play their game. Given how often I usually cheat in some form in my own games, it'd be pretty bad of me to do so. But when it comes to facts, I'll generally set things straight if I have the time. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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