TEWFan Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Ok, I am going to post this and see if it has happened to someone else. I have a bunch of really good fighters that where unbeatable, but somehow lost one match and have become cans. Is this a mental effect? Playing as GAMMA, Regueiro was undefeated until 2001 when he lost to Nathan Chambers. Since then he has gone 1-6, with loses to cans. At first I said "That's ok, he is getting older and his skills are going down. Perfectly normal". Then it happened with Delroy Rhodes (0-4 after starting 13-0), Rich Robinson (0-4 after starting 10-0), Felix Mattherson Jr (1-5 after starting 11-0), William Harrison (0-3 after starting 9-0) and Adam White (1-4 after starting 16-0). All of them are at their prime and have lost matches to guys they should beat and all of this started when they lost their first match to an established/better fighter. Is this a mental thing? A bug? Rhodes, Robinson and Mattherson started to go down after losing their title shots at Nathan Chambers. They have somehow lost to cans/gatekeepers like Ray Eaton, Joe Hinchcliffe and a very old/low skilled Julio Regueiro. Has this happened to someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunGBD Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have seen it to. But the guy was the champ lost 1 then lost 2 or 3 in a row. but then recover and won a few in a row. So I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javier_83 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 i hope that doesnt happen becaue William Harrison is my best fighter and he just lose his title and his undefeated record. :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJenerationT Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Happened to Philip Ziskie when he lost his featherweight title. Lost to Banner, Tavares and Sullivan all in a row before getting back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have had the same happen to Regueiro in my game. He lost four in a row before getting right on track. Now James Foster seems to have been bitten by that bug. He has lost five in a row. Normally I would cut him but because he is still very popular with the fans I just cannot bring myself to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsatiableInsanity Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 You mean like Hazelett, Zaromskis, Hardy, Varner and Akiyama? Happens in real life quite rarely, and happens quite rarely in the game (when you compare to the many fighters in the game who DON'T lose back to back like that), so I think it's a good thing. If ALL your fighters lost once, then lost all the time after that, THEN it would be a bug. If it happens to an exceptional few, then it's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grits207 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 This has happened in my game to Jin Katou after he got KO'd by Asanovic. Since the loss he has gone 2-4 and is on a 3 fight losing streak. His only wins during that span were against Zenko Hatakeyama and Inejiro Chiba. It sucks that one of my biggest stars is having such a tough time lately but it makes the game more realistic and interesting so I have no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovoj Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Yea I have noticed it. A fighter gets to the top, looses and then goes on a losing spree$ some make it back to the top, others don't. Regueiro lost his first match but is now the champ and has defended it. Chambers lost it, got back on track, won it again, lost it, went up to MW, went on a tear and lost his title fight. Seems to happen to some fighters. I guess its a mental thing. I've noticed it with abt 10 fighters or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think in general I see alot more upsets in WMMA 3 than I do in 2. This could be totally wrong but I agree with what most everyone is saying. I don't know of any top fighter in my company that has had a bad losing streak but I have had a lot of guys lose, give them an easy fight (which I rarely do) only for them to lose to that. This may or may not be related but I think the strategy "skill" plays a big part into consistent winning. I had one fighter with 60% something I think but otherwise I good fighter. he had a few embarrassing losses so I upped it to 100% and now he is 2-0. Could be related or not, just brainstorming. P.S. Also alot of the "top" fighters at the beginning have holes in their game and are not necessarily the best as you would imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praguepride Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Happened to Philip Ziskie when he lost his featherweight title. Lost to Banner, Tavares and Sullivan all in a row before getting back on track. That's not exactly an upset victory against Lamont Banner...the guy is a BEAST. First year I hire him he friggin KO's Sukarno in the 1st round! That won him Rookie of the Year, KO of the year, Upset of the Year, boosted him from unranked to #10 lightweight with a record of only 3-0, and sent him from High Regional to Mid National in one fight. Needless to say, it was an exciting moment for me knowing I had a champion I didn't have to pay nearly 1 mil per fight for! edit: Also, if a great guy loses a fight, I like to give him a really easy "gimme" match to get him back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebby Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 James Foster had a pretty terrible run. He went like 1-6 and I kept wanting to give him one more chance, but finally it just got to where...come on man, you lost to freakin' Zsolt Hargitay? So I finally hit the terminate button, as sad as it was =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batsnumbereleven Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 James Foster had a pretty terrible run. He went like 1-6 and I kept wanting to give him one more chance, but finally it just got to where...come on man, you lost to freakin' Zsolt Hargitay? So I finally hit the terminate button, as sad as it was =( Who cares if he's putting on decent matches though - someone has to Main Event! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Basically, when they get better fighting cans, this is actually natural, since the opposition gets better. However... it shouldn't happen with Reguiero, of all people. I guess quality opponents, bad match-ups and bad luck could get you there. I had it happen to Foster, which is also bad. Who cares if he's putting on decent matches though - someone has to Main Event! The fans don't want to see losers main event. And LOL @ Banner. In WMMA2, he held the record of most title defenses. He's perhaps the best LW in the game. But on a sidenote, there are indeed more upsets then in WMMA2. But then again, it's partly due to the judges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I find the addition of wall and stall and split decision to be a major factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunGBD Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 wall and stall I read this in some bios what is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 T'is a "strategy" even worse then grinding. aye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Wall and Stall is when you pin your opponent against the cage (or ropes) and holding them there with your wrestling ability with no real intention of going for a take down or damaging an opponent working for a knockout. It is basically a way to win on wrestling alone without relying on your punching/submission creating a boring fight. In other words it is like lay and praying, where you take your opponent down then do not really work to continue improving your position, inflict damage, or go for a submission creating a boring fight. There are a few real life examples if you follow the UFC but alot of guys get bad raps or over praised. For example Randy Couture is famous for his dirty boxing, which is essentially "wall and stalling" except for the fact that he is peppering you with strikes to your head/body/thighs while a waller and staller just holds you there until you are separated then does it again. As far as Lay and praying, GSP gets a bad rep especially after the Hardy fight but he is constantly moving on the ground and going for submissions (even if not super aggressively) however a fighter like John Fitch takes guys down and chooses to only pepper them rarely going for submissions or trying to get to mount to destroy guys. edit: How this factors into WMMA and what the thread was initially about is now that the cage has been introduced more in WMMA 3, you can see fighters who are not that good pin others to the cage, even if they cannot control them there for a whole round/fight it still eats up precious time giving them points on the judges scorecard. I recently saw Ivanov lose to Boniek due to this as an example. Even with Ivanov's great wrestling, Boniek continued to push him up against the cage for a minute or so before they would break. Bad example as Boniek has good wrestling but you get the jist of it since on paper Ivanov should have had better wrestling. Also pinning someone to the cage is easier than a double leg/single leg takedown it seems by far which is why fighters do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunGBD Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks Jesterx7769 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 You're welcome Its why in my longest running game I just cut a bunch of boring wall and stall/lay and prayer type guys. Rufus "The Strategist" is probably my most hated fighter in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovoj Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Rufus Stevens and Stuart Strange are the WORST culprits. Ohh add Josh Aldarisio in there too. Those 3 I'm giving the Fitch treatment. They will NEVER fight for the title and will ALWAYS be on prelims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strelka Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 James Foster had a pretty terrible run. He went like 1-6 and I kept wanting to give him one more chance, but finally it just got to where...come on man, you lost to freakin' Zsolt Hargitay? So I finally hit the terminate button, as sad as it was =( I have just gone through the same situation with Foster. He lost to Hughes by TKO in the first fight, won his 2nd fight, lost to Hughes again in a rematch an proceeded to lose 4 more straight, his last loss was to Cobblepot who I still had hanging around out of a soft spot for him (it was his last fight) I then let Foster go as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEWFan Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 I hate Stuart Strange....and he is my most dominant champion, with 10 defenses. He has beaten Napier twice, Buddy Garner twice, undefeated Adam White, Matthew Dean twice, I brought in Heiji Endo and Jonathan Huang....Strange won. My last hope is Isaiah Monroe.....or having some sort of super fight with Yamada. All his fights are "average" at best and "poor" most of the time. How can that guy win all the time? Rufus Stephens is not that bad when compared to Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephrinn Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Yeah, I've had this happen too. Fighters overall seem to be much more volatile this time around as almost every division has a constant changing of titles. I guess this also makes winning so much more important and that handing one of your star fighters a can to put an end to the losing streak doesn't feel so cheap anymore either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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