mcorey Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Finally I have USPW in the 30-day period for National. My questions are what do I need to do that is different from Cult? I have started signing many of my stars to written contracts. I have house shows running at 3-4 days a week. I don't think I am ready to handle booking for two TV shows yet, but if I immediately need to get a 2nd show then so be it. Currently, my TV/PPV schedule is a 5 region rotation which are the regions I am most over. If I am going to keep the one TV show (and not add a new one), do I need to start rotating the other regions into my TV/PPV schedule or should I keep with the 5 I have now unless one of the others gains more popularity? Should I add a TV show visit outside the US? What about the other business issues, like merchandising - should I switch to the custom method? Change music to the best? DVDs, etc? First time at National and I want to stay at National. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Immediately adding a second TV show is probably a bad idea, to be honest. Unless you have a loaded and very popular roster as it is. If not, you will risk over-extending yourself. That commonly happend to the SWF and TCW on 2008 - they got a second show, started putting on C and C+ shows, and fell down to Cult. The only second show I would worry about adding for right now would be a B show possibly. If you are looking to build up young new talent, that is. If not, its not worth it. Rotating through your most popular regions should be fine, if you have TV coverage in the rest. Doing shows outside the US is a bad move unless you and your talent have the popularity in that region to make it work. Deciding to run Canada or Japan just cuz can cause terrible show grades, decline in popularity, Cult, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Do the same thing you have been doing but make sure you also get a B show to showcase your less over guys and possibly new talent. Before you know it you could be one of the top 3 companies in the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 It's good that you are signing your stars on written contracts - if you ever happen to fall back down, at least they are locked up with you. Also, as for a second TV show.. definitely not a second A-show, at least not at first. a B-Show? Maybe. However, on TV, if you need more TV time, you can now edit it to be higher. You are going to need it, sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-619 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 You can now sign any available workers above the popularity of 75 or 76 (I think that's the right one). I highly recommend getting a B show to build younger talent, it works great for me because it doesn't matter how poor the show is you can keep giving your up and comers TV time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidenhoek Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 If your roster is big enough, you could try a brand split. Hardly necessary, but that would allow you to have two TV shows running (and two separate house show circuits). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-619 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 If your roster is big enough, you could try a brand split. Hardly necessary, but that would allow you to have two TV shows running (and two separate house show circuits). I doubt he would have a big enough and popular enough roster though, because I made it to USPW and would have failed miserably if I did a brand split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcorey Posted January 21, 2011 Author Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks for all the suggestions. Looks like I should start a B show. With a B show do I need to do a brand split? Also my stars won't get mad if they are not on the show, correct? I have managed to keep Justice all this time, so don't want to upset him. What push level do you have on the B show? Do you sometimes have a Main Eventer appear on the show? If he does will he get upset if it's not every week? What about the Women can they be good candidates for the B show? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 From my experiences without looking into it too much a B show can be booked with upper midcarders main eventing and your main eventers won't get upset. Also it shouldn't improve your promotion overness in the area either. The B show is used for 2 things... getting workers stats up and giving lower card guys more time on tv so in a few months they can be on your A show and won't hurt your ratings too much. I still use main eventers on mine, and try to further some of my storylines as well. I never let a champion lose his belt on my B show. Usually my main event is a main eventer on each team and a midcarder too. So face main event teaming with face midcarder vs heel main event and heel midcarder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Thanks for all the suggestions. Looks like I should start a B show. With a B show do I need to do a brand split? Also my stars won't get mad if they are not on the show, correct? I have managed to keep Justice all this time, so don't want to upset him. What push level do you have on the B show? Do you sometimes have a Main Eventer appear on the show? If he does will he get upset if it's not every week? What about the Women can they be good candidates for the B show? Thanks again. A B show is a great asset if you are have young talent that you are looking to develop and get over. If that really isn't a focus, then the B show is less valuable and may not be worthwhile (they don't make any money for you, typically). Workers don't care about being on a B show. You also don't need a brand split, but it can be a way to organize things. As for who to use on the B show, its pretty much open. Nothing wrong with using a main eventer, especially if they are a really good worker who can help develop younger talent or a star who needs some development themselves. Its really no good to give away big matches on the B show, as they don't help you at all. I will often use upper card talent to give them easy wins, especially if they are guys who often job on the main show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 A B show is a great asset if you are have young talent that you are looking to develop and get over. If that really isn't a focus, then the B show is less valuable and may not be worthwhile (they don't make any money for you, typically). Workers don't care about being on a B show. You also don't need a brand split, but it can be a way to organize things. As for who to use on the B show, its pretty much open. Nothing wrong with using a main eventer, especially if they are a really good worker who can help develop younger talent or a star who needs some development themselves. Its really no good to give away big matches on the B show, as they don't help you at all. I will often use upper card talent to give them easy wins, especially if they are guys who often job on the main show. Perfectly said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 What's a good rating for a "B" show if I'm averaging B/B+ for my 2 "A" Shows and B+/A for my PPVs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 What's a good rating for a "B" show if I'm averaging B/B+ for my 2 "A" Shows and B+/A for my PPVs? The B show grades are irrelavant, to be quite honest. It just doesn't matter, at least for your promotion. Even if you get constant A and A* grades with your regular A show, pulling Ds with your B show doesn't hurt your promotion. What you get for grades really depends on how you are using it. If you use upper card guys a fair bit - even just beating on your openers - you can get solid grades. If you really only midcarders or below, grades are likely to be lower. Neither approach is wrong. Striving for strong grades on the B show is a bit counter-productive, if you are doing matches which would grade well for you on the A show, but I guess it depends on why you are putting those matches on the B show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 As for who to use on the B show, its pretty much open. Nothing wrong with using a main eventer, especially if they are a really good worker who can help develop younger talent or a star who needs some development themselves. Or someone you don't have anything for and still want to keep active (and/or don't want to 'future endeavor'). What's a good rating for a "B" show if I'm averaging B/B+ for my 2 "A" Shows and B+/A for my PPVs? As BP said, and to paraphrase a certain Brahma bull, it doesn't matter what grades you get. The fact of the matter is.......it's only for developing talent. Lemme give you an example. Let's say you have a worker in development, right? S/he has improved to the point where they're too good for the dev promotion. BUT, they're not quite good enough to debut under the lights of the big show. What do you do with that worker? You put them on the B show and let them build a following (read: gain some overness/polish). That way, they're not mad for being kept in development longer than they needed to be and you get a good idea of who on your main roster that worker works best with (via chemistry notes from house shows and matches). Now that you're National, you should be focused on securing your power base and ensuring the future of your promotion. That means, in my view, getting one or two developmental promotions and filling those promotions with talent you wish to develop for the long haul. I believe you should operate your promotion much like a professional sports franchise. When one of your "stars" goes down (to injury, retirement, or unrealistic contract demands), you should have someone waiting in the wings, chomping at the bit to take that worker's spot. The best situation you could possibly be in, again in my opinion, is to have your main event full of workers who could headline a PPV. Better to have too many than too few, in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 If your roster is big enough, you could try a brand split. Hardly necessary, but that would allow you to have two TV shows running (and two separate house show circuits). This. If I have enough workers, I'll do a brand split so I can have 2 (or, better yet, 3) house show circuits going, even if the brand split is never mentioned on TV. Cover more regions, make more money. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned, you could start expanding internationally. That doesn't mean hold TV shows there (don't do that), but getting PPV and TV deals, if you don't have them already. You should be able to get deals in Canada, Mexico, and Japan due to decent popularity from spillover. You can get PPV deals right away, but of course you can only get TV deal during the negotiating periods, and note that you can only do one per negotiating period. But as far as staying at National, the most important thing is just keep doing what got you there. Running good shows, getting good ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidenhoek Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Yeah, B show does not affect your momentum/prestige/popularity. Just the workers'. That said, if you want some conservative benchmark...I think putting on a show that's a full letter grade (in your case, a C) under your A show would indicate a pretty solid undercard. And I'd consider promoting anyone involved in a...B or greater match/angle, since they could do you good on the main show, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 The best situation you could possibly be in, again in my opinion, is to have your main event full of workers who could headline a PPV. Better to have too many than too few, in my view. I agree with everything Remi said, but I ESPECIALLY agree with this. I have an abundance of main event quality workers in my WCW game and it's because they had A LOT of exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 not gonna disagree, but this is from 2 guys with 100+ wrestlers on the rosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 not gonna disagree, but this is from 2 guys with 100+ wrestlers on the rosters I understand why the large roster number always scares people away, but you have to figure it into three different parts for me (not in Remi's case though ). My three major A-brands all compete with each other as if they were their own National companies (with massively over workers). They each have their TV shows spread out throughout the world (North America, Mexico, the UK, Europe, and Japan) and I have PPV deals throughout the entire game world. It's EXTREMELY easy to get a worker over (even if they have CRAP skills) with that type of exposure on Very Big to Huge Networks and PPV Carriers. You also need to keep in mind that my WCW game went straight from Cult to International. I never had to be National because I attacked all of North America when I was Cult (well, mostly just Quebec and Ontario). I went with this strategy: put on good shows in the most important areas around the world. After you conquer the important places, you'll have plenty of time to attack the places it was harder to grow in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I was just joking. I usually have a group of 8-10 guys I would count on to main event shows because most of the time I just create popularity instead of transferring it and there comes the problem most of the time for me since I loathe booking brand splits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I was just joking. I usually have a group of 8-10 guys I would count on to main event shows because most of the time I just create popularity instead of transferring it and there comes the problem most of the time for me since I loathe booking brand splits Brand splits can become tedious, but they can also be very fun if you can consider drafts and trades into the mix. WCW recently went through some "summer turmoil" in July 2022 - EVERYONE outside of brand-specific champions were eligible to be drafted (tag teams went in pairs). This lead to the first week of July being extremely hectic for all three shows. My B-show (shown on CBA) does really well with lower midcard workers and below from all three brands participating. I had to do something to switch things up after having the brands the way they were (outside of trades) for so long. The headache of making sure I had the brands even (male / female, face / heel, non-active workers) was intense. I did this last weekend and it took me a couple of hours to get everything set how I wanted it. The rest of 2022 is going to be CRAZY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 it must take years to plan just a few months in advance. Thats where I spend most of my time, and still take forever to book shows But on topic, as long as you have enough star power when you hit national nothing much should change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 it must take years to plan just a few months in advance. Thats where I spend most of my time, and still take forever to book shows I have a general idea (or outline) of what I want to accomplish in a year, but I give myself plenty of wiggle room to change things up on the fly. A feud I expected to go on for four months could have gone so horrible that I ended it in four weeks. Nobody is secure when it comes to my promotion. Things change and things change often depending on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remianen Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 not gonna disagree, but this is from 2 guys with 100+ wrestlers on the rosters Not me. I might have 100+ wrestlers on the payroll (counting development), but not on the main roster. Also, when you consider my fixation on developing non-wrestlers (managers and the like), they might compose up to a third of my main roster. I'm really big on worker development. I haven't had a "star" leave me and generate any tears from my eyes, since TEW07. It's even more important now with wear and tear. National is the land of milk & honey. It's the one point where no talent (aside from those locked up to exclusive deals) is out of your reach. You see a young kid debut in Europe who catches your fancy (like A* Menace or B psychology or summat), sign him ($25k? Oooo, 1.5 house shows! If that!) and stick him in development. Let him marinate for a while and you just might have a future champion (depending on product, of course). I know at Regional, I'm always really wary about pushing people I care about (young talent, mainly) for fear a bigger promotion will snatch them up. And it doesn't have to be a written either. If you have a worker on your roster who works for say, an International promotion on a PPA, when you get to National, you won't be able to lock that worker up ("Worker doesn't want to be exclusive to you, as they have other lucrative contracts they don't want to give up"). At National, I don't even care. Those workers who won't accept written deals compose my job squad. Always maintaining just enough momentum to give a rub to someone else. For the question in the OP: International is next followed by Global. National isn't the end. It's just the entrance. Just like you wouldn't walk into a restaurant's door and just stand there, likewise here, you gotta keep moving forward. Get yourself a seat at a nice table (International) and buy everyone in the joint a drink (Global). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcorey Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for all the suggestions. A couple of other questions do you change any of your business settings at National like music, merchandise, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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