Acidburned Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9484/sappprofile.jpg http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2516/sappstats.jpg http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9366/sappfh.png This is why I love WMMA3, I started as the UFC from 1993 and I thought I would know everyone who would rise to the top but this regen came along. For a few years he destroyed everyone in his path but as he got older and the sport evolved he lost his edge and has now lost a fair few matches. I was wondering does this hinder him getting into the Hall of Fame once he retires. He has held a couple of titles for a long time and has reached 95 percent reputation and stayed that high for a few years during his dominance of my UFC. He sums up what I love about this game, I never read into that much before buying so I did not realise that there would be so many regens and so many good ones. Although I did not like to see his decline as a fighter it was good in the way that he was one dimensional in his prime he would submit anyone but as the era's kicked in and more well rounded athletes started to show up he got left behind. The defeat to Anderson Silva was only his second loss in 8 years and from then on he has gone down hill. Do you think a place in the Hall of Fame will be his once he retires?
majesty95 Posted March 29, 2011 Posted March 29, 2011 I think he should. He was a two-time champ and was 22-1 at one time! Don't know if the end hirts him but it sholdn't. He was one of the greatest fighters ever once.
Acidburned Posted March 29, 2011 Author Posted March 29, 2011 I am hoping so, I am currently in 2010 and so far there is no one in the HOF yet. Then again none of the top guys of my UFC have retired yet.
Acidburned Posted April 8, 2011 Author Posted April 8, 2011 Matt Sapp won his last fight via submission and then retired. He did not make it into the HOF assuming people go into it within 2 months of retiring. Shame really, I guess the end of his career must have hurt his chances.
Calinks Posted April 8, 2011 Posted April 8, 2011 He must have never hit his 90% rep mark or something. I would like it if each organization had its own hall of fame and then there was the overall MMA hall of fame. The organizational one would totally be up to the owner's prerogative as to who gets in or not. Maybe the game will have some criteria that's easier to hit than the normal HOF. You get a message, asking if you want to induct that fighter in the hall of fame or not. In addition to that, you can choose anyone you want to give HOF honors.
Acidburned Posted April 9, 2011 Author Posted April 9, 2011 It must have been the losing towards the end of his career as he hit 90 percent for sure as it was one thing I was keeping my eye on. I agree we as owners should have the option to add people to our promotions hall of fame and then the game should decide who qualifies for the overall MMA hall of fame.
bigtplaystew Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 Towards the end of his career with me, Hassan Fezzik lost 5 straight fights. I was using him to "put over" some beefy heavyweights I had and he basically lost for two years in a row. He retired and made it into the hall of fame (which I think happened immediately after he retired). He is still my only hall of famer (in the entire game) even though I've had some great champions retire. Now he ended up getting the very pretigious Alpha-1 HW belt and my very prestigious GAMMA HW belt and had a run there where he just didnt lose for years. But towards the end he was pitiful. This tells me that 1) whatever happened at the end of his career probably didn't matter and 2) I think you have to have a belt for AWHILE and keep a top 5 p4p spot for many years before the game considers a fighter for the hall of fame. I dont think just having him hit those pinnacles is enough. I think a fighter has to hold them for awhile. Also, title prestige probably matters because I had Leon Banks in the UCFF that I had bought out and he was the champ for many years there and a top 5 p4p fighter and was definately over 90% and he didnt make the hall of fame either.
BuddyGarner Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 Once you get the news story on Thursday of Week 2 you're in. I think he should've made hall of fame. He had record, title, and 90% rep looks like.
lean Posted May 1, 2011 Posted May 1, 2011 Towards the end of his career with me, Hassan Fezzik lost 5 straight fights. I was using him to "put over" some beefy heavyweights I had and he basically lost for two years in a row. He retired and made it into the hall of fame (which I think happened immediately after he retired). He is still my only hall of famer (in the entire game) even though I've had some great champions retire. Now he ended up getting the very pretigious Alpha-1 HW belt and my very prestigious GAMMA HW belt and had a run there where he just didnt lose for years. But towards the end he was pitiful. This tells me that 1) whatever happened at the end of his career probably didn't matter and 2) I think you have to have a belt for AWHILE and keep a top 5 p4p spot for many years before the game considers a fighter for the hall of fame. I dont think just having him hit those pinnacles is enough. I think a fighter has to hold them for awhile. Also, title prestige probably matters because I had Leon Banks in the UCFF that I had bought out and he was the champ for many years there and a top 5 p4p fighter and was definately over 90% and he didnt make the hall of fame either. If you'll notice with the default database, four fighters are already gaurenteed hall of fame spots when you start the game. You can see this in the editor under Hall of Fame. They are Fezzik, Ho, Reguerio and Yamada. So those four guys will always end up in the hall regardless.
bigtplaystew Posted May 2, 2011 Posted May 2, 2011 Ohhh ok dude thanks for that I never noticed that. Damn so that throws almost my entire post out the window hahahaha.
green poncho Posted May 3, 2011 Posted May 3, 2011 <p>Maybe his "schedule" was to weak?</p><p> </p><p> 10 ranked opponents amongst 41 fights over a period of nearly 15 years, 6-4 against said ranked opponents, with 7 in the top ten (4-3), 5 in the top five (3-2) and it averages out to less than one ranked opponent a year over his career.</p>
dormammu Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 <p>I've never seen any fighters end up in the Hall of Fame (except Fezzik, but that's guaranteed to happen no matter what) and there doesn't seem to be criteria anywhere for entry like there is with TEW's Hall of Immortals. I kind of wish Adam would add something on a fighter's profile indicating how likely he is to get in.</p><p> </p><p> But, anyway, I'd think the caliber competition would play a large part. If I run a small, rinky dink promotion with no ranked fighters and one of my guys goes 40-0-0 lifetime with a 5 year title reign, it doesn't mean much because his competition was crap. On the other hand, if I'm running ALPHA-1 and my guy decimates everyone in Light Heavyweight and then moves up to Heavyweight and does it again, I'd imagine he'd get in as he was facing world class competition every time and did it across two weight classes. If a guy with a career like that doesn't make it into the Hall of Fame, I'd assume there's a bug of some kind in the game.</p><p> </p><p> You know, that almost makes me want to create a fighter with every stat maxed, sim the game for 20 years while unemployed, and see if he gets in to the Hall. Presumably he'd be the greatest fighter in history and have multiple title reigns with multiple companies. Hmmm....</p>
majesty95 Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dormammu" data-cite="dormammu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30822" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> You know, that almost makes me want to create a fighter with every stat maxed, sim the game for 20 years while unemployed, and see if he gets in to the Hall. Presumably he'd be the greatest fighter in history and have multiple title reigns with multiple companies. Hmmm....</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like that idea. I might do it in my game and sign him. LOL</p>
dormammu Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I like that idea. I might do it in my game and sign him. LOL I tried it last night on a new game, simmed for a year, and he was still unemployed after that year with a 0-0 record. Not even a local show in that time. I think I created a character who broke the game with his awesomeness. Thinking about going into the editor and giving him a contract with someone.
Paatero Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I hope you at least named him Steven Seagal and gave him 100 in creative kicks. Maybe he'd come up with a new kick every once in a while!
majesty95 Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dormammu" data-cite="dormammu" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="30822" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried it last night on a new game, simmed for a year, and he was still unemployed after that year with a 0-0 record. Not even a local show in that time. I think I created a character who broke the game with his awesomeness. Thinking about going into the editor and giving him a contract with someone.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Did you give him any popularity or reputation? Regardless of skill, if the fighter has 0 pop and 0 rep I think they will get signed. If all of those are 0 then it could be just because his skills are so good he is asking for too much money...</p>
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