How you would you handle an invasion?

[UkWrestleFan]

Whether it be with US, Mexican, Canadian, Japanese, European/British, how would you handle it/have it play out etc?

 

I'm working on a scenario in the US which takes into account TCW's financial struggle in 2010. I'm going to base it roughly on the real-life invasion stuff with WWF/WCW/ECW.

 

Basically, on the 1st edition of Supreme TV of 2010, Jack Bruce & Rich Money are taking each other on in the Main Event to determine who gets to face Eric Eisen at the next PPV. Towards the end of the match, Eric Eisen appears on the SuperemeScreen at TCW's Total Wrestling!! He announces that he's bought TCW and has a masterplan to destroy the SWF *insert reasons here* and that winning the SWF World Heavyweight title was part of his plan. The camera pans out to show Tommy Cornell. Eric Eisen lays down for Tommy who pins him and wins the SWF World Heavyweight title....

 

That's my initial plan and I've laid stuff out ahead of this. Just wondered how you guys would handle an invasion.

[djthefunkchris]

I've always wondered how I would do it, and Have many times wanted to play one of the scenario mods with WWE/WCW/ECW to do it "My Way". I've thought about it over and over, and this is all I keep coming up with.

 

First off, I would have the smaller company/ECW do the (sneak) attacks on the bigger WCW/WWF wrestler's... catch one or two of them alone and get them. I would have WCW vs WWF mainly in confrontations, where it's staredowns or broke up before anything can start.

 

Match-wise, I would try to get "Like-Characters" in the ring on one vs one, or triple threat match's... Giant vs. Giantkiller, Goldberg vs. Austin, etc. For PPV. Have huge battle's in the ring during normal shows, where we start out with a tag or singles match, that ends with the one NOT in competition coming out and beating both parties down.

 

Just haven't come up with anything "exact" though.

[Comradebot]

I've had a couple of ideas in the C-Verse, namely with 21CW and CGC.

 

 

With 21CW, I'd most certainly run a "MOSC invasion" after MOSC (almost) inevitably runs out of money and I can buy it out. Naturally, the leaders of the war would respectively be Jeff Nova and The Highland Warrior, possibly with the two finally facing each other in the ring at some point (assuming The Highland Warrior's new knees can hold up for a match, if not his son or Danny Patterson would be a fitting substitute). Basically, the idea being that MOSC is what put British wrestling on the map, and were refusing to allow its spirit to die in the face of Nova using his wealth and celebrity status. I'd bring in MOSC's best and brightest, the folks I could see having a longterm future in 21CW, anyone of their's currently holding belts... and Ultra Violence just for kicks, and of course have a few former MOSC workers (Jay B & Buff Martinez, DJ Reason, ect.) defect to the MOSC faction. Maybe have the tension building of "will the MOSC folks be allowed into 21CW" for a few weeks, and then as they prepare the finally just assault Jeff Nova have Joss Thompson run in with a chair in hand, scattering the MOSC mob...

 

Only to have Thompson blast Nova with a chairshot, leading the charge to assault Nova in the ring until a small army of 21CW loyalists come in to lead to massive arena-wide, locker room spanning brawl... that'd be fun.

 

 

 

Second idea would be with CGC, and would utilize a similar "SE vs. Hardcore" approach as the 21CW "invasion". This one, however, would come from within rather than outside. I'd absolutely LOVE to have Phil Vibert start championing Brett Fraser on-screen as "the embodiement of true wrestling, and not this Whippy The Clown ir DeColt funtime on the Ponderosa crap". Meanwhile, I'd have Vin Tanner working his "Mad Russian" alter ego as this ultra-throwback to the Cold War style Soviet villian, and being treated as mostly a huge joke and midcard level jobber. This would lead to Vibert talking to Tanner backstage in a super serious "you shouldn't let them treat you like this" manner, referring to the "awful" gimmick (personally, I'd love it), while Tanner initially holds true to his Mad Russian gimmick and kayfabe. Also, I'd start trickling in a few "hardcore" workers and DAVE alumni, folks like Randall Hopkirk and Billy Jack Shearer (both former TCW Hardcore champs), Bryan Holmes, maybe JD Morgan and Henry Lee... and, again, some of these guys would once again find the attention of Phil Vibert.

 

And, further down the line, Vibert would take his originally celebrated new position of commissioner (which I'd do towards the start of the process), and begin to abuse his power. The DeColts would finally step in, and seemingly get him to get back in-line before Alex would be forced to fire him. Then, tragedy strikes: reigning CGC World champion Jack DeColt is hit by a car in the parking lot following his huge title defense against, well, some member of Elite. Likely Eddie Chandler, at some PPV that I have not yet determined. While his "injuries" aren't career-threatening, the doctors advise the champ to take at least a month off as his internal injuries need adequete time to heal.

 

However, Phil Vibert announces that, despite the accident, Jack DeColt WILL defend the title against Brett Fraser, tonight and live only on CGC Title Bout Wrestling, and if he doesn't then he will be "forced" to strip him of the title! Alex and Ricky quickly make their way to the ring to fire Vibert, as this is the last straw in his power trip and clearly their previous warnings went unheeded. But, Vibert refuses to accept his firing and refuses to step down from his position. Instead, he says it's them who need to step down, and offers them one opportunity to "make it easy". The DeColts laugh it off, and order security to escort the seemingly power-crazed Vibert out of the building, but Phil asks if he can say just one more thing before he leaves... they give him permission, and he gives the order: appearing seemingly from out of nowhere are those Vibert has slowly recruited to his cause, quickly outnumbering and overwhelming the DeColts. They clear house and pitch Ale and Ricky out of the ring, and pose in defiance as the show comes to an end.

 

On the next episode, Phil explains his motivations, that the DeColts have wrongfully held themselves at the top of CGC simply because they're related while superior workers have been denied the opportunites they deserve and/or been forced to act as "jesters" with ridiculous gimmicks. Now, it is time for the DeColts to accept new leadership and earn their way in the business rather than have it handed to them because of their birth, or resist and be crushed by Vibert's revolution. Aaaand that's about all I have so far. Thinking Elite will take on a "Raven's Flock" role in it, and actively work to undermine both the DeColt's and Vibert's faction, as while they don't want the DeColts in charge anymore either, they also want to keep all the power for themselves unlike Vibert who (claims) to be trying to create a new CGC that provides an equal opportunity for all its wrestlers. Aaaaaand that's about all I have. I've put a decent amount of thought into it, but can't help but think that this, and the 21CW idea, would best be done as diaries. And lord knows I'm too lazy and would hate myself if I didn't let these go to fruition. Still, it'd be fun. And quite obviously serve as a vehicle to make Brett Fraser a superstar, which would be super awesome. He'd definetly fill a unique niche at the top of CGC's roster.

 

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm starting to ponder a possible AAFW invasion in my APWF, as AAFW are close to their last legs. They've got maybe six months left, give or take, before I can buy them out.

[hellboy2]

in my USPW game, i bought out 21st Century Wrestling, because most of the wrestlers were nknown in America, i had them under the radar and eventually challenge the USPW proclaiming that the 21st Century has finally reached USPW

 

the invasion was pretty short lived but i find only introducing a handful of workers from the promotion at a time helps

 

i try and focus it on a few mine was Jeff Nov, Jonathan Faust and Stevie Stoat, eventually introducing War Machine and Sifu and then having Joss Thompson who i had already signed turn on USPW, which fills up the upper half of my feuds leaving the undercard to have a few promotion vs promotion battles before the main matches

[Teh_Showtime]

I guess you could call tthis a DAVE invasion even though only Trav Century and Nemesis are the ones brought in.

 

Sammy Bach, Eddie Peak, and Century were a cult (The Church of Pain) and wrecked havoc on TCW. This went on for months and they even converted Fonzareli into Danny Darkness. This went on with guerrilla attacks and crucifications of other wrestlers on PPV for about 6 months. In a big 6 man tag match at Malice The New Wave turned on Ricky Dale Johnson and joined.

 

At Total Mayhem it ended when RDJ, Sam Keith, Rocky Golden, Benny Benson, and Joey Minnesota put an end to the stable.

[Bigpapa42]

I actually found myself messing around with Genadi's 2001 mod and thinking about re-running the Invasion. Which is odd, since I've never really been tempted to before.

 

They key in any invasion is making the invaders look strong. To make them dangerous. Basically, how WCW made the Outsiders look. But there had to be a payoff. The "good guys" have to get their victories, or fans will stop caring.

[Teh_Showtime]

yeah WCW got dominated and even when they didnt, their strongest members (Austin, Angle) were WWF stars at first. It made them look weak

[Bigpapa42]

yeah WCW got dominated and even when they didnt, their strongest members (Austin, Angle) were WWF stars at first. It made them look weak

 

Oh man, the WWF Invasion angle was done wrong in almost every way possible. From not trying to get WCW's top guys on down, it was booked like McMahon didn't want it to succeed.

[Anggur Merah]

yeah WCW got dominated and even when they didnt, their strongest members (Austin, Angle) were WWF stars at first. It made them look weak

If only the Survivor Series card were like this... 12-men elimination tag team.

 

The Rock - Steve Austin - Kurt Angle - Chris Jericho - Undertaker - Kane

 

vs.

 

Goldberg - Sting - Kevin Nash - Booker T - RVD - Big Show*

 

*) the defector

[James Casey]

Oh man, the WWF Invasion angle was done wrong in almost every way possible. From not trying to get WCW's top guys on down, it was booked like McMahon didn't want it to succeed.

 

He didn't.

 

But regardless, take the recent attempts in wrestling history (UWF/NWA, nWo/WCW, ECWCW/WWE, Nexus/WWE) and avoid making the same mistakes.

 

The invaders looks strong, but have moments of vulnerability. They're not revealed immediately (think how effective ECW sneak attacks could have been in 2001 WWF where none of the casual fans would know who was suddnely jumping Big Show/the Hardys/whoever backstaage) but only after the tension has built to twanging elastic levels. The leaders are kept apart, at first by being chessmasters, then by taking on and defeating the various lieutenants, and then you have the final showdown where the personal rivalries are settled...

 

And then what?

 

It's always good to have a post-Invasion plan in place. WWF wanted to relaunch WCW, of course, but lost patience way, way too quickly. In my MAW diary I ended the story as the invasion ended, but I would have had the losers leaving the company anyway. To have the invading force still hanging around after the storyline plays out means you have potentially a whole load of wrestlers to integrate, none of whom should just be accepted back into the locker room because the last X months have been spent trying to beat everyone up.

[juggaloninjalee]

I've thought about doing an Invasion angle in Genadi's mod but I always find myself wanting to keep WCW alive by booking for them instead of the WWF. I think the idea of the challenge seems more fun to me.

[steesh07]

I've always been tempted to do a ROH/CZW war/invasion game, never really gotten around to it before.

[UkWrestleFan]

Whether it be with US, Mexican, Canadian, Japanese, European/British, how would you handle it/have it play out etc?

 

I'm working on a scenario in the US which takes into account TCW's financial struggle in 2010. I'm going to base it roughly on the real-life invasion stuff with WWF/WCW/ECW.

 

Basically, on the 1st edition of Supreme TV of 2010, Jack Bruce & Rich Money are taking each other on in the Main Event to determine who gets to face Eric Eisen at the next PPV. Towards the end of the match, Eric Eisen appears on the SuperemeScreen at TCW's Total Wrestling!! He announces that he's bought TCW and has a masterplan to destroy the SWF *insert reasons here* and that winning the SWF World Heavyweight title was part of his plan. The camera pans out to show Tommy Cornell. Eric Eisen lays down for Tommy who pins him and wins the SWF World Heavyweight title....

 

That's my initial plan and I've laid stuff out ahead of this. Just wondered how you guys would handle an invasion.

 

I've expanded on this a little further...

 

On the 1st edition of Supreme TV of 2010, Jack Bruce & Rich Money are taking each other on in the Main Event to determine who gets to face Eric Eisen at the next PPV. Towards the end of the match, Eric Eisen appears on the SuperemeScreen at TCW's Total Wrestling!! He announces that he's bought TCW and has a masterplan to destroy the SWF *insert reasons here* and that winning the SWF World Heavyweight title was part of his plan. The camera pans out to show Tommy Cornell. Eric Eisen lays down for Tommy who pins him and wins the SWF World Heavyweight title. Rocky Golden comes out and the two champions celebrate together with Eric Eisen.

 

The following week, Richard Eisen says that despite a TCW worker holding the SWF World Heavyweight title, it's still the property of SWF. Therefore, in the Main Event, it will be Jack Bruce vs Rich Money one more time with the winner going onto face Tommy Cornell at When Hell Freezes Over. Then, during the match, Rich Money hits "Dollars In Heaven" on Bruce. As he goes for the cover, Cornell & Golden enter the ring through the crowd, attacking Money. Bruce eventually recovers but instead of helping Money, he joins in the attack, defecting to TCW!!! It's revealed that Eric Eisen & Jack Bruce were in cahoots all the long!!!

[Truth]

I've expanded on this a little further...

 

On the 1st edition of Supreme TV of 2010, Jack Bruce & Rich Money are taking each other on in the Main Event to determine who gets to face Eric Eisen at the next PPV. Towards the end of the match, Eric Eisen appears on the SuperemeScreen at TCW's Total Wrestling!! He announces that he's bought TCW and has a masterplan to destroy the SWF *insert reasons here* and that winning the SWF World Heavyweight title was part of his plan. The camera pans out to show Tommy Cornell. Eric Eisen lays down for Tommy who pins him and wins the SWF World Heavyweight title. Rocky Golden comes out and the two champions celebrate together with Eric Eisen.

 

The following week, Richard Eisen says that despite a TCW worker holding the SWF World Heavyweight title, it's still the property of SWF. Therefore, in the Main Event, it will be Jack Bruce vs Rich Money one more time with the winner going onto face Tommy Cornell at When Hell Freezes Over. Then, during the match, Rich Money hits "Dollars In Heaven" on Bruce. As he goes for the cover, Cornell & Golden enter the ring through the crowd, attacking Money. Bruce eventually recovers but instead of helping Money, he joins in the attack, defecting to TCW!!! It's revealed that Eric Eisen & Jack Bruce were in cahoots all the long!!!

 

That ain't bad. I've been looking for something to inspire me with a new game, and I may have just found it!

[Phantom Stranger]

Bruce eventually recovers but instead of helping Money, he joins in the attack, defecting to TCW!!! It's revealed that Eric Eisen & Jack Bruce were in cahoots all the long!!!

 

This more than slightly craps on the near-year-long angle that directly preceded it, doesn't it?

 

I mean, either Jack is a complete moron and willing to abruptly trust the man who played mind games, wore him down, and nearly destroyed him, or Eric and Jack pulled a near year-long stunt in which Jack simulated being driven to near-insanity, for... well, no good reason.

 

Hell, why did Eric need the belt? Why couldn't Jack have laid down for Tommy, thus saving the need for him to endure two heinous beatings at the last PPV?

[Teh_Showtime]

Yea SWF smarks would crap on the payoff

[20LEgend]

When I did a TCW one, I had SWF come and reposses TCW at the end of their PPV Total Mayhem, and then had TCW come back looking for revenge, I think I'm going to do a diary with an idea like this but maybe with USPW (no sure it could be the thing that Strong does to take them up to the level, although they couldn't compete, so no definitely SWF)?!?!?!?!?!, as I have about 10 shows written up that I did a while back but I might start it a fresh if / when there is a new or I lose interest in USPW.

 

I'll have to get think

[pagoda]

I've got a bunch of ecw originals invading combat zone wrestling heyman running ecw crew trying to take zandig and czw crew over all czw feuds got put to one side to unite against the invasion it will come to a head in cage of death wifebeater, nick gage, sick nick Mondo, rukus vs, raven, sandman, sabu, and dreamer not sure what side axl and ian rotten will take

[Derek B]

This more than slightly craps on the near-year-long angle that directly preceded it, doesn't it?

 

I mean, either Jack is a complete moron and willing to abruptly trust the man who played mind games, wore him down, and nearly destroyed him, or Eric and Jack pulled a near year-long stunt in which Jack simulated being driven to near-insanity, for... well, no good reason.

 

Hell, why did Eric need the belt? Why couldn't Jack have laid down for Tommy, thus saving the need for him to endure two heinous beatings at the last PPV?

 

Yeah, the previous idea that was posted was a LOT better. It played off of TCW's money woes if you imagine Tommy Cornell spending all the money to do what he can to the man who defected to the SWF years ago... and then you can play off Eric Eisen being pissed at Rich Money for injuring him in the first place, which explains why Eric and Tommy might be working together against two of SWF's finest. The manipulation to put Jack Bruce and Rich Money against each other and absolutely destroy each other only for neither of them to take the belt would accomplish all the heel/face turns you need... with Eric Eisen possibly claiming he used his time on the shelf to work out what Tommy was up to and form the alliance, also giving himself the chance to help run/own a promotion that he was denied with the election storyline to show his dad and brother who the real business man is. May not be the spoiled brat people think he is afterall, he's a truly ruthless businessman, wrestler and the total package.

 

Then the alliance of Eric/Tommy might upset Wolf Hawkins... and really everything seems to write itself for a TCW/SWF angle when you think about it like that. I'd never thought of an invasion before but I can see many ideas coming out of it from the default starting position.

[1PWfan]

I did an invasion angle once in an RPW game-XFW had collapsed and I brought across a few of their guys. Spent most of the angle squashing the hell out of them, but then that's how I've always viewed those kind of invasions. It's not about dream matches or whatever, it's about proving that the other company wasn't as good as you were and deserve to be buried. Which is why I largely avoid invasions unless I'm in a vindictive mood.

[sebsplex]

They key in any invasion is making the invaders look strong. To make them dangerous. Basically, how WCW made the Outsiders look. But there had to be a payoff. The "good guys" have to get their victories, or fans will stop caring.

 

In general terms yeah, basically try and find the middle ground between WCW/NWO and the WWE/The Alliance.

 

And I'm digging the original idea for this topic. Out of all the scenarios that might trigger a C-Verse Invasion, that seems one of the most plausible ones. Like Derek B posted, due to the logical nature of this idea, there are multiple directions and ideas that could branch from this starting position/core idea.