Would anyone be interested in...

[TheOmniWarrior]

Doing a collab work on a mod? I was thinking of doing one with maybe 6 other people (One of us per game area.)

 

Could be fun if anyones up for it.

 

 

USA: 20LEgend

CANADA: QFresh

MEXICO: TheOmniWarrior

JAPAN: Huntman

UK: MJStark

EUROPE: Public

AUSTRALIA: Sprinklefurball

[20LEgend]

What kind of mod?

[TheOmniWarrior]

An alternate world, kinda like the c-verse I guess.

[20LEgend]

An alternate world, kinda like the c-verse I guess.

 

I'd have a go if 6 were interested. Would we be basing it on CV to make sure it is balanced? I've actually been working on a mod on my own so I could put some of my ideas into this, I'd like US but I'd imagine you'd want that so I'd be interested in UK

[TheOmniWarrior]

Partially.

But id like to not go overboard on completely doing it to c-verse stats, for example in the C-verse theres only 21 psychopaths at the start of game with 5 more who debut over 20 years. Now for example, if im doing Australia, and I want to put one or two hardcore promotions (Maybe one that acts as a feeder league to the other one) then their would be more psychopaths than say technicians, which would cause a flux of technical skills dropping for hardcore.

 

What im saying is it doesnt need to be EXACTLY balanced, but id like to use the c-verse stats as a rough guideline.

[MJStark]

I could be down, provided I don't get Japan or Mexico. But only if you get the other slots filled and you don't mind that this would be my second priority after the BEMod and BERetro

[TheOmniWarrior]

@MJStark

Those conditions seem fine by me.

[Huntman]

I could go for it. I was working on a database for my personal game, but going alone is kinda boring. I'd preferably would like Canada or the US. Because everywhere else...I barely know. I could do Japan tho.

[QFresh]

I'd be interested in joining up with this project. Working with Canada/US/or Australia would fit for me, as I'd think I'd be better at molding something there. But I'd definitely help in other areas if needed.

[TheOmniWarrior]

Okay, so since theres debate over who wants what ive decided first come-first serve. Im going to take Mexico.

 

 

@20ELegend You have the 1st choice

 

@MJStark You have the 2nd choice.

 

@Huntman You have the 3rd choice

 

@QFresh you have the 4th choice

[20LEgend]

I'll take the USA thanks

[MJStark]

I that case (20LEgend getting the US), I'll take the UK. It is home after all and not too many regions to fill

 

And because I have time on my hands, here is my synopsis for the UK:

 

Wrestling never really caught on in the UK. It had a brief popularity boost in the 60s, and then it died away. The industry held on in its most basic form, small and local companies survived on crowds of between 30 & 100 people for decades, but the talent pool began to drop off in the early 90s due to the age of the average wrestler now being around 50 and products being completely out of date for a modern world: Slow, methodical technical wrestling played like a sport with very little 'entertainment factor' in a world where the media is focusing on fast paced action and jaw-dropping comedy. Also most matches lasted 25-40 minutes, far too long for the MTV generation to concentrate on with no explosions!

 

Less people were coming to shows and less interest means less people wanting to give training a shot themselves. I mean, what 16-20 year old wants to get good and sweaty with 50 year old men for a tiny paycheck and all the abuse their mates can give them?

 

Then, around 2002 British wrestling had both the biggest shot in the arm and, in some ways, was given a death sentence. [insert name of global promotion here, will tailor UK to suit] got a TV deal in the UK. With a product so very different people began to get interested in wrestling again, but not in seeing it live. This left British Wrestling with a big question: Give up the principles of generations of wrestlers and change their ways or stay true to British Wrestling and probably wither and die?

 

One thing [global] did for the UK scene 3 years later (2005). After realising 2 things:

1: that the more people saw wrestling live in small venues the better their product looked in comparison

2: some of the raw talent coming out of the UK could actually be usefull to them given a push in the right direction and some 'work experience

[global] set up a dojo, then a touring development promotion in Birmingham. All the workers in the promotion, bar a couple of US veterans, came through the dojo, were signed, sent back to the UK to work in the development promotion and rammed down the UK's collective throats. Any dojo guy that couldn't cut the mustard got released (and there were many, in its first year the dojo produced over 50 workers, half of which were released), increasing the overall skill and size of the talent pool in the UK

 

Five years on (I'm assuming we're starting in 2010, but I can change timescales to suit) and the British scene has changed. There are still a few old-school promotions out there playing to tiny crowds of grannies who watch quietly while men, mainly only a few years younger than those grannies themselves, grapple around for half an hour before the winner is politely clapped and then everyone goes off for tea and scones. In contrast, the majority of the scene is packed with exciting new promotions. And there are a LOT of these promotions, no region has less than two promotions, the south has five and they are all alive with vibrant youngsters guided by the more forward thinking of the previous generation. Most wrestlers work 2 or 3 dates a month for a few different promotions, but the talent pool is full of young green rookies wanting to do what they've seen on TV. Only 2 regional promotions, [development] & one other in London, most promotions are small or local, but a lot of small's are on the cusp of hitting regional, and then who knows what regional wars could do to the UK scene?

 

So, in such a high competition area there will obviously be wars and alliances, friends and enemies. [development] is a goldmine of talent if you can catch them between tours but then you might want to take a few greenhorns and build them to become stars.

 

 

 

I think I've rambled enough there. But I'm pretty sure you can work out what my plans are from that

 

On the global promotion: if there is more than one global ends up in the data I'll pick the one I wanna use based on what is going to be easier to render, so probably not lucha, although if someone wants to do an unmasked global lucha promotion who am I to argue

[TheOmniWarrior]

Updated the first post.

 

Im still trying to flesh out Mexico in my head.

 

Im thinking maybe 2 national and 1 cult promotion, as well as maybe 3 or 4 small promotions.

 

For the nationals im thinking it would be interesting if one was a Womans promotion that focuses more on ability than pop(with a focus of high flying action)..... while the other would be a very entertainment heavy promotion.

 

For the cult I was thinking of something along the style of Ring Of Honor, however setting it up so fans dont particularly care for technical wrestling in Mexico to keep it from growing.

[MJStark]

I just made that up as I went along. I do find that if you try and tell the story of the region it molds itself as you write itself.

 

For example, in your Mexico there is abviously no bias between trends for mainstream and modern but a strong feeling against... pure maybe? Dunno what trend would effect techncal wrestling really.

 

So how did the scene get to that point? Lucha doesn't seem to be very prominent, so what caused that to die off in favour of a high-flying womens promotion and an entertainment based promotion? Once you get that set in your head the rest will all slot into place

 

Mine was the basis that I wanted a young scene with lots of small promotions with a mainstream/cult/hardcore/modern/sports entertainment/lucha/anything but traditional & pure feel. The way you get that is for the previous incarnation of wrestling to be near death and undergo a re-birth. What can cause that rebirth? New product introduced in a massive way... etc etc etc.

 

I hope that helps a bit and I haven't just told you stuff you do/already know/don't need telling

[20LEgend]

What will be done for graphics, I'm not very good myself

[MartinC]

I like the idea.

 

This will be a first for me.

 

I'll would like to take Canada or Australia.

 

I'll wait for your answer, I have some idea.

[Clp605]

If you guys are looking for extra help I could work on Canada. I have a few ideas I could try from a mod I was hoping to make a while back. Granted it never got off the ground but I think knowing others are working on other parts of the world it would work.

[MJStark]

What will be done for graphics, I'm not very good myself

well I can split my rendering time between this and the BEMod. I'd see if any of the graphics guys want to get involved with logos and I can do belts too Also I'm sure a few more renderers would prob be happy to help out too

[TheOmniWarrior]

@MJ The thing is... its not that Lucha is dead... its just gone through... a metamorphosis. (Keep in mind the only Lucha Libre I watch is AAA so I could be wrong)

 

The womens promotion still has alot of the flashiness that the Lucha Libre is famous for, it just doesnt have many promos, which kinda takes away from that traditional feel of it,

 

while the other promotion is based slightly of AAA (Which seems to be Mainstream Key IMO, but maybe theres a place for Lucha in there?)

 

 

 

So maybe... seeing the sucess of Mainstream in other promotions... they recently (say about 5 years ago) dropped Traditional in turn for Mainstream(to Key) and dropped Lucha Libre down to (medium?) which at first shot them down to Regional due to alienating their fans, but slowly shot them all the way into National Status MAYBE a year ago.

 

 

While the womens promotion was something the crowds just found themselves enjoying alot. Solid performances + High sex appeal, piqued their interest enough to keep going, the fans growing by every show, now its been ten years and their already national, something it took the other National Promotion 65 years to do.

 

The cult promotion was formed when a star of the the Luchatainment promotion (as well as a few of his friends) left the promotion, feeling that their product was no longer "right" and that they did not want to partake in any of what they felt, and many would argue they were right, would be the alienation of their fans from dropping the parts of the product they felt made it what it was for 60 years. They didnt want to be their as they felt the promotion they took great pride in being on tarnished its legacy.

 

Wow... replying to that actually developed the biggest portions of Mexico in the space of ten minutes LOL there we go.

 

 

@20LEgend (sorry for misreading your name earlier as 20ELegend)

Im not sure what we will be doing for our workers pics (as I didnt really mind having blanks) but as for Logos I can work on some logos if needed.

 

@MartinC, Clp605

Huntman and QFresh have the next two picks respectively. If their earlier posts are any indication of what they want to pick, the chances of Canada or Australia being available will be slim to none.

[MJStark]

@MJ The thing is... its not that Lucha is dead... its just gone through... a metamorphosis. (Keep in mind the only Lucha Libre I watch is AAA so I could be wrong)

 

The womens promotion still has alot of the flashiness that the Lucha Libre is famous for, it just doesnt have many promos, which kinda takes away from that traditional feel of it,

 

while the other promotion is based slightly of AAA (Which seems to be Mainstream Key IMO, but maybe theres a place for Lucha in there?)

 

 

 

So maybe... seeing the sucess of Mainstream in other promotions... they recently (say about 5 years ago) dropped Traditional in turn for Mainstream(to Key) and dropped Lucha Libre down to (medium?) which at first shot them down to Regional due to alienating their fans, but slowly shot them all the way into National Status MAYBE a year ago.

 

 

While the womens promotion was something the crowds just found themselves enjoying alot. Solid performances + High sex appeal, piqued their interest enough to keep going, the fans growing by every show, now its been ten years and their already national, something it took the other National Promotion 65 years to do.

 

The cult promotion was formed when a star of the the Luchatainment promotion (as well as a few of his friends) left the promotion, feeling that their product was no longer "right" and that they did not want to partake in any of what they felt, and many would argue they were right, would be the alienation of their fans from dropping the parts of the product they felt made it what it was for 60 years. They didnt want to be their as they felt the promotion they took great pride in being on tarnished its legacy.

 

Wow... replying to that actually developed the biggest portions of Mexico in the space of ten minutes LOL there we go.

 

 

@20LEgend (sorry for misreading your name earlier as 20ELegend)

Im not sure what we will be doing for our workers pics (as I didnt really mind having blanks) but as for Logos I can work on some logos if needed.

 

@MartinC, Clp605

Huntman and QFresh have the next two picks respectively. If their earlier posts are any indication of what they want to pick, the chances of Canada or Australia being available will be slim to none.

 

See, evolved as you wrote it, it gives things organic feel

 

So we reckon Japan and Europe left after Huntman & QFresh reply? Thats some fun to be had. Japan, you can keep puro a focus or change things up and Europe? With no defined scene Europe can be anything!

[TheOmniWarrior]

See, evolved as you wrote it, it gives things organic feel

 

So we reckon Japan and Europe left after Huntman & QFresh reply? Thats some fun to be had. Japan, you can keep puro a focus or change things up and Europe? With no defined scene Europe can be anything!

 

Yeah, thats what id imagine being left. Huntman mentioned Canada and Q-Fresh mentioned Australia which would be the likely remainder of his choices.

 

And yeah, I agree Europe is probably gonna be one of the funnest ones to work on for the person that takes it.

 

Also... this is what im thinking about using for the Women's Promotion... what do you guys think? I was going for something stereotypically girly.

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5289/ddlll.th.png

 

Also Imageshack auto-bordered it. I dont know why.

[DeadCeleb]

I wouldn't want to take on a whole region, but i can help with Canada.

[TheOmniWarrior]

Thought id throw in whats been going on with OMLL (The biggest promotion in Mexico) since turning SE

 

 

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7194/omll.th.png

Orgullo de México Lucha Libre

OMLL Heavyweight: Nigromante

Mexican Heavyweight: Vampiro Rudo

OMLL Tag Team: Hugo Bermudez & Coloso

OMLL TV: Super Frankenstein

The Casa De Los Muertos started 4 years ago. It started out when Nigromante (Spanish for Necromancer) debuted, after a few strong showings in the ring, they pulled the trigger on a massive push, where, in kayfabe, he "killed" his opponents and brought them back as Zombies.

 

First off was the Fan Favourite, Héroe Vampiro, turning him into the demented, psychotic, and sometimes uncontrollable Vampiro Rudo

 

Using Vampiro Rudo as a bodyguard, Nigromante entered a feud with then OMLL Heavyweight Champion El Lobo. After 5 months of feuding, Vampiro Rudo won the OMLL Heavyweight Title off of El Lobo, which led to El Lobo disappearing (taking time to recover from some minor injuries, and to get back in great physical condition)

 

With Nigromante reigning for over a year, it seemed as if no one would stop his reign of the OMLL title. Suddenly, as if from the heavens, a giant (6'10) masked warrior debuted, taking out Vampiro Rudo, just as if he was about to purify Vampiro Rudo to his old self, El Lobo's music hits. The crowd goes balistic. Until they seem him, looking much eviler than he has ever looked before, tackling Helsing, the arena goes dark and when the lights are back on the duo were gone. As the feud between Nigromante and Rudo got more intense. It ended once again, with Helsing winning the title. As he raised the belt into the air, the lights flickered off. And when they flickered back on, Hellsing was gone, and Nigromante's laugh echoed through the arena

 

Two weeks later, Helsing re-appeared. Without his mask. He laid down in a title defense for Nigromante.

Once again, Nigromante turned one of his enemies into a powerful ally. This one called itself... Super Frankenstein.

 

Resplandor, a long time midcarder, had suddenly found within himself, the light needed to brave against Nigromante. As they feuded, Nigromante failed to execute Resplandor every time. However, one of the times, it came with two casualties. The young new tag team, Alejandro and Sergio Alonso. They sacrificed themselves to save him. Now they are Calavero Uno and Dos.

 

Since then, Casa De Los Muerte have reigned supreme, with Resplandor always seemingly on the edge of defeating Nigromante. Even winning the title once before dropping it again to Nigromante a few months later.

[MJStark]

The only problem I have is waiting for someone else to create a global promotion so that I can know how to mold the UK. So is anyone knows that they're gonna have a global sized promotion could you post what kind of rough product you have in mind? Cheers folks

[20LEgend]

The only problem I have is waiting for someone else to create a global promotion so that I can know how to mold the UK. So is anyone knows that they're gonna have a global sized promotion could you post what kind of rough product you have in mind? Cheers folks

 

I was thinking a SE promotion to be Global or International, similar to the SWF product but without the risque.